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Group B • Dec. 30 • Canada 2, United States 1

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Canada in regulation 163 60.59%
Canada in OT/shootout 31 11.52%
U.S. in regulation 64 23.79%
U.S. in OT/shootout 11 4.09%
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12-29-2012, 06:02 PM
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Garrett Sparks tweeted "Get to participate in the greatest rivalry in all of hockey (in my personal opinion) tomorrow. The boys will be up for this one"

Does that mean he's playing? Anybody know?
As a Leaf fan I hope so. If he does I'm hoping for a low scoring Canada win 2-1 maybe lol

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12-29-2012, 06:05 PM
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If Subban plays well and MacKinnon gets top 6 ice time we take this b!tch.
They don't need Mackinnon to take this.

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12-29-2012, 06:09 PM
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It breaks my heart, but I have to go with the Americans to take this one... Goal tending edge to the Americans, faster team, Canada down 2 players and subpar goalie in Subban... I doubt he can turn around his tournament in off day and 45 minute practice and a touch feely hugfest session with the goalie coach Tugnut.

Canada will get down 3 goals before the switch in goal is made, but by then it will be too late, tournament will be over... these guys are ready to pack it in. but they'll give it the old Canadian try.
Oh so if Canada loses tonight their tournament is done ok

Canada 5-3

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12-29-2012, 06:09 PM
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Familiarity and proximity make this more of a rivalry than what it should be. The fact that so many people think it is as big or equal to Canada vs Russia tells you it is not results based. A 9-2 winning record over the past 10 years is all you have to know. It has grown largely due to the nature of those 2 losses. Most Canadians look at those 2 as gold medal losses that Canada let get away and it hurts their fragile hockey superiority ego far more than losing to Russia, a more worthy traditional rival, does. USA has done well to earn its spot among the top 7 nations, but it isn't close to usurping Russia as our primary rival.

Right now it is primarily a border rivalry, much like Sweden vs Finland. Every once in a while Finland wins and Sweden gets really pissed off.
Agreed, the rivalry with Canada and the U.S IMO started back in 2002 at the Olympics and the 2004 wjhc when the U.S won their first gold at the tournament. Russia and Canada go wayyyy back. It's a more historic rivalry that dates back to 1972. The U.S are gaining and good for them they are improving their program but until they continually challenge us like Russia does year in and year out for the next decade or so they'll continue to be a secondary rival IMO. It's mostly about proximity. Russia is our true rival. And obviously I'm talking about all tournaments, if we just focus on the WJHC then...it's not even close. Russia has continually been a thorn in our backs for years and years, U.S is just getting used to some sort of success at this tournament.

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kinda curious who the non Canadian/USA fans in attendance will be cheering for..?

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12-29-2012, 06:12 PM
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Canada will get down 3 goals before the switch in goal is made, but by then it will be too late, tournament will be over... these guys are ready to pack it in. but they'll give it the old Canadian try.
You haven't watched many Team Canada Junior games have you? A three goal lead on Canada is roughly equivalent to a three point lead in basketball. Not worth much. The games we lose are typically after we've had a lead and choked in the third.

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12-29-2012, 06:12 PM
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If Canada can get thru the first period without digging itself into a hole, we will be fine. Just no slow starts. And no Subban 3 goal head start.

Worst case, we lose and we put in our hot goalie against Russia.

Worst, worst case, we finish 3rd in our pool and we play the quarter finals - which actually might help.

No worries. This team will be fine.

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12-29-2012, 06:23 PM
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kinda curious who the non Canadian/USA fans in attendance will be cheering for..?
If HF is any indication, a land slide for the U.S. Europeans hate us.

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12-29-2012, 06:29 PM
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If HF is any indication, a land slide for the U.S. Europeans hate us.
fiscally speaking i guess it makes sense for them to cheer together.

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12-29-2012, 06:30 PM
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If HF is any indication, a land slide for the U.S. Europeans hate us.
According to TSN, we are the 2nd favourite team for the locals.

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12-29-2012, 06:32 PM
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According to TSN, we are the 2nd favourite team for the locals.
Yeah, that's awesome if true. Just saying, the Euro contingency on HF aren't our bigges fans.

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12-29-2012, 06:34 PM
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5-3 USA. Last goal will be an open netter.

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12-29-2012, 06:45 PM
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Unfortunately I have little faith in our goaltending. Being down two forwards doesn't help either. Should be close by I have to pick the US.

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Yeah, that's awesome if true. Just saying, the Euro contingency on HF aren't our bigges fans.
True, but there are also a large amount of Canadians who have axes to grind if their favorite prospect from their NHL team doesn't make it or isn't being used as they see fit.

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kinda curious who the non Canadian/USA fans in attendance will be cheering for..?
I think that it is going to be for USA. (Group position is the reason)

I won't be cheering for neither side. Just enjoying my first (and hope not the only one) all north american hockey game.
I am sure that it is going to be a big clash with a lot of hard stuff, fightings, injuries, major penalties and game misconducts (hopefuly with further suspensions )

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12-29-2012, 06:52 PM
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I have to like Canada in this match-up. I believe that the Camara hit really did give Canada a boost or a rally point. Kind of like when Roman Hamrlik cross checked Fluery in the back in 2002 in the round robin game versus the Czech's. It will be a good game for sure, I'm starting to come around on my thinking on Subban. I'm still a little bit worried, however I do think he can pull out something in order for us to get the win.

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12-29-2012, 06:53 PM
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I'd give this game to Canada so long Gibson doesn't, well, Gibson us. He's the big X factor in this game along with Subban, who's been shaky in my opinion. All in all, I'll call Canada the victor in a close affair. 4-3.

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12-29-2012, 06:56 PM
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Oh well. 2:30 am game. Still going to watch it. Because it's going to be...

Wait for it....


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12-29-2012, 06:57 PM
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Nash, I almost always agree with your posts, but this time I'm going the other way. Canada/USA is more than a border war, it has turned into World War 3 over the past decade. If you don't belive me, all you have to do is watch either of the following.







There are a bunch more where that came from. Jonathan Toews shootout ring a bell?


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12-29-2012, 06:59 PM
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Ugh. This 4:30 wake-up WON'T be pleasant.

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I predict a barn burner. The Nuge does go BEAST MODE, putting up 2 and 2. Both assists on the PP. CAN 7 USA 5.

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Familiarity and proximity make this more of a rivalry than what it should be. The fact that so many people think it is as big or equal to Canada vs Russia tells you it is not results based. A 9-2 winning record over the past 10 years is all you have to know. It has grown largely due to the nature of those 2 losses. Most Canadians look at those 2 as gold medal losses that Canada let get away and it hurts their fragile hockey superiority ego far more than losing to Russia, a more worthy traditional rival, does. USA has done well to earn its spot among the top 7 nations, but it isn't close to usurping Russia as our primary rival.

Right now it is primarily a border rivalry, much like Sweden vs Finland. Every once in a while Finland wins and Sweden gets really pissed off.
I'm hoping for a good game, but this post makes me want to see Canada get embarrassed 10-0 before the end of the first period.

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3-2 Canada, me thinks

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If HF is any indication, a land slide for the U.S. Europeans hate us.
huh? Every non-American despises the United States, but especially in Russia. I would expect the non-Canadian crowd to be VERY pro-Canada.

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huh? Every non-American despises the United States, but especially in Russia. I would expect the non-Canadian crowd to be VERY pro-Canada.
My post was more to do with the HF crowd. I honestly don't know who would be more liked.

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