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Zibanejad/Ceci/Lehner vs. Strome/Reinhart/Poulin

View Poll Results: Which trio would you choose to build a team around?
Mika Zibanejad, Cody Ceci, Robin Lehner 44 31.65%
Ryan Strome, Griffin Reinhart, Kevin Poulin 95 68.35%
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12-29-2012, 11:08 PM
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Zibanejad/Ceci/Lehner vs. Strome/Reinhart/Poulin

Which trio would you choose to build a team around?



Mika Zibanejad
Cody Ceci
Robin Lehner

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Ryan Strome
Griffin Reinhart
Kevin Poulin

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12-29-2012, 11:22 PM
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Strome > Zib
Poulin < Lehner
Reinhart > Ceci

I'd take the Islanders

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12-30-2012, 12:04 AM
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Strome > Zib
Poulin < Lehner
Reinhart > Ceci

I'd take the Islanders
Basically this.

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12-30-2012, 12:14 AM
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replace zibby with silfverberg.

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replace zibby with silfverberg.
Wouldn't that make it more lopsided in favour of the Islanders? I was under the impression that Zibanejad > Silfverberg.

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12-30-2012, 01:49 AM
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Codi Ceci is too underrated around here. Plus the difference of Lehner over Poulin is just too great. Sens.

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Codi Ceci is too underrated around here. Plus the difference of Lehner over Poulin is just too great. Sens.
Reinhart is better than Ceci. This is why Reinhart was drafted 4th overall and Ceci 15th. This is also why Reinhart is playing at the World Juniors while Ceci didn't even get a camp invite.

If you want to go into more detail:

Strome >> Zibanejad(one '>' for skill, the other because Zibanejad has injury concerns)

Lehner >> Poulin(although goalies are a crapshoot)

Reinhart >> Ceci.

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12-30-2012, 02:33 AM
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Really close. Basically just preference.

Zibanejad = Strome
Ceci < Reinhart
Lehner >> Poulin

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Reinhart is better than Ceci. This is why Reinhart was drafted 4th overall and Ceci 15th. This is also why Reinhart is playing at the World Juniors while Ceci didn't even get a camp invite.
This means nothing.

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12-30-2012, 07:47 AM
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Zibanejad worries me as a Sens fan. His play is underwhelming for the awsome set of tools he has, makes you wonder if hockey sense is the issue. Also it seems he's made of glass, which makes me doubt his ability to play hard, physical hockey, as it appears doing so would only hurt him more than the opponents he's hitting.

Lehner is superior to Poulin, but goalies are by no means a safe bet, even with success at the AHL level.

For these reasons I'm choosing the Isles trio.

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Strome > Zib
Poulin < Lehner
Reinhart > Ceci

I'd take the Islanders
Bang on.

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NYI by a substantial margin.

EDIT: Also this:

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Strome > Zib
Poulin < Lehner
Reinhart > Ceci

I'd take the Islanders

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Zibanejad > Strome
Lehner > poulin
Wikstrand > Reinhart

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Strome > Zib
Poulin < Lehner
Reinhart > Ceci

I'd take the Islanders
Exactly my reasoning.

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Which trio would you choose to build a team around?



Mika Zibanejad
Cody Ceci
Robin Lehner

or



Ryan Strome
Griffin Reinhart
Kevin Poulin
Should it be Poulin or Nilson for the NYI goalie choice?

They're splitting time in the AHL.
NYI fans disagree on which youngster has the higher upside.

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Strome > Zib
Poulin < Lehner
Reinhart > Ceci

I'd take the Islanders
This. The Sens 3 still look great though!

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Nilsson has higher upside than Poulin and if he reaches his full potential can be just as good as Lehner. Poulin would have to really overachieve to be just as good as Lehner.

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In think Strome is amazing. Looks better than Zibanejad for sure now.
Ceci is good but Reinhart is better.

I am so up on Lehner though. Goalies ARE a crapshoot but I think Lehner is a sure a thing as a goalie prospect can be. He has all the tools and an incredible attitude. And he could be ready NOW. Even if he does not immediately get the chance.

So I would take Ottawa's 3 just based on Lehner. I guess I am an extreme optimist but I see him as a Vezina calibre goalie with a long career ahead of him.

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12-30-2012, 02:03 PM
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I chose the Sens trio, mainly because of Lehner.

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This means nothing.
The opinions of scouts for NHL teams and Team Canada mean nothing?

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12-30-2012, 02:16 PM
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The opinions of scouts for NHL teams and Team Canada mean nothing?
Cam Barker > Mike Green.
Barker was drafted higher and made Team Canada while Green didn't make Team Canada.

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Cam Barker > Mike Green.
Barker was drafted higher and made Team Canada while Green didn't make Team Canada.
Cool straw man argument bro. Just because draft pick is a relevant factor doesn't mean that it is the be-all end-all.

Put it this way, you have two defensemen and you know nothing about them other than that one was drafted 4th overall and made Team Canada, the other was drafted 15th and did not receive an invite to Team Canada. Which would you take? If you picked the first option, congratulations, you just proved that draft position and making team Canada does mean something.

Furthermore, your comparison means little considering I don't think anybody was saying there is zero possibility that Ceci could be the better player. Just that Reinhart is probably the safer pick to be better, given that NHL and Team Canada scouts thought he was better. Evaluating players years later based on the draft is obviously silly because they've both had time to prove themselves. In predicting who will be the better player between Reinhart and Ceci, we are speculating about who will be a better player in the NHL. Seeing as how we have no concrete evidence of either playing better in the NHL, the opinions of NHL scouts is absolutely relevant.

I don't know why so many users are only capable of thinking in absolutes, either [insert factor of player value] means nothing, or it means everything. Surely to god the rational answer could not be somewhere in between.

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Cam Barker > Mike Green.
Barker was drafted higher and made Team Canada while Green didn't make Team Canada.
And the year after they were drafted that would be correct.

Sometimes there are exceptions as to how they develop, but anyone would have taken Barker over Green in their draft year.

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Wouldn't that make it more lopsided in favour of the Islanders? I was under the impression that Zibanejad > Silfverberg.
This is debated on the Sens forum a lot. My personal feelings as well as many others is Silfverberg>>Zibanejad.

That being said, NYI still have the better prospect pool

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