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06-05-2006, 12:29 AM
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The 1991 Norris Trophy

I have been thinking about Al MacInnis' career lately, and I was looking back and perhaps his best season, clearly his best statistically, and his best from the reports of the older Flame fans I know, but I was wondering what the sentiment is from the posters on this board about the 1991 Norris that Ray Bourque won, I was only 6 at the time of the awards ceremony, so I was wondering what the voting was like, was Al Mac second? Did people feel he should have beaten Bourque? Who else was up there? Coffey? Leetch? Stevens?

Any info on the best defensemen of the 1990-91 season would be cool.

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I was not a hockey fan at that time and cannot give you a direct impression why Bourque beat out MacInnis but all indication seem to show that Bourque was the greater player by "impact." While MacInnis scored 103 points, Theron Fleury had slightly more points and they managed to do it on a Calgary team which scored 344 goals in the regular season. Bourque scored 94 points but he also led the Bruin in scoring! This Boston team only 299 goals that season. Eventually, Boston also won their division while Calgary was second. Boston also went to the Conference Finals while Calgary got eliminated in the first round. Numbers-wise, MacInnis has the edge but the overall factor seems to indicate that Bourque was the better defenseman.

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I think that people forget how highly thought of that Bourque was at the time. IMO he was right up there with Gretzky, Lemieux and Roy. Just a player that could bend a game to his will and dominate on the ice. I think that Big Mac still had some defensive problems even though he was getting to be so much more than just the big shot on the point.

There were a bunch of defenseman that were very highly thought of at the time and peolpe forget some of the other names like Tinordi, Duchesne, Suter, Hatcher and Big Al. IMO all just paled in comparison to Bourque who was almost flawless. I remember Scotty Bowman saying in 1992 that Bourque was the 2nd best player in the game at the time.

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NORRIS: Ray Bourque 257 (35-27-1); Al MacInnis 228 (27-28-9); Chris Chelios 56 (2-9-19); Brian Leetch 30 (2-0-20); Paul Coffey 8 (0-0-8); Kevin Hatcher 7 (0-1-4); Scott Stevens 6 (0-1-3); James Patrick 2 (0-0-2)

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1990-91
NORRIS: Ray Bourque 257 (35-27-1); Al MacInnis 228 (27-28-9); Chris Chelios 56 (2-9-19); Brian Leetch 30 (2-0-20); Paul Coffey 8 (0-0-8); Kevin Hatcher 7 (0-1-4); Scott Stevens 6 (0-1-3); James Patrick 2 (0-0-2)

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Wow its good to see James Patrick on there. One of the most under rated players and best skaters I've ever seen.

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Around 1990 and 1991 Bourque was at his absolute best. That was his peak the very late 80's and early 90's. Considering he was a 1st team All star as a rookie in 1980 and then in 2002 in his last season (when he was a fraction of himself in his prime) it would have been really hard for anyone to beat him for the Norris in 1991.

I am glad MacInnis eventually won his Norris latter in his career since he was a great his whole career. But Bourque deserved the Norris in 1991. The fact MacInnis was a close second is a huge testament to MacInnis.

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Thanks for the all the info, I think this answers my questions.

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Ray Bourque Peak Regular Season Totals Playoff Totals

1983-84 Boston Bruins NHL 78 31 65 96 57 3 0 2 2 0
1984-85 Boston Bruins NHL 73 20 66 86 53 5 0 3 3 4
1985-86 Boston Bruins NHL 74 19 58 77 68 3 0 0 0 0
1986-87 Boston Bruins NHL 78 23 72 95 36 4 1 2 3 0
1987-88 Boston Bruins NHL 78 17 64 81 72 23 3 18 21 26
1988-89 Boston Bruins NHL 60 18 43 61 52 10 0 4 4 6
1989-90 Boston Bruins NHL 76 19 65 84 50 17 5 12 17 16
1990-91 Boston Bruins NHL 76 21 73 94 75 19 7 18 25 12
1991-92 Boston Bruins NHL 80 21 60 81 56 12 3 6 9 12
1992-93 Boston Bruins NHL 78 19 63 82 40 4 1 0 1 2
1993-94 Boston Bruins NHL 72 20 71 91 58 13 2 8 10 0
1994-95 Boston Bruins NHL 46 12 31 43 20 5 0 3 3 0
1995-96 Boston Bruins NHL 82 20 62 82 58 5 1 6 7 2

AL Macs Peak Regular Season Totals Playoff Totals

1986-87 Calgary Flames NHL 79 20 56 76 97 4 1 0 1 0
1987-88 Calgary Flames NHL 80 25 58 83 114 7 3 6 9 18
1988-89 Calgary Flames NHL 79 16 58 74 126 22 7 24 31 46
1989-90 Calgary Flames NHL 79 28 62 90 82 6 2 3 5 8
1990-91 Calgary Flames NHL 78 28 75 103 90 7 2 3 5 8
1991-92 Calgary Flames NHL 72 20 57 77 83 -- -- -- -- --
1992-93 Calgary Flames NHL 50 11 43 54 61 6 1 6 7 10
1993-94 Calgary Flames NHL 75 28 54 82 95 7 2 6 8 12
1994-95 St. Louis Blues NHL 32 8 20 28 43 7 1 5 6 10
1995-96 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 17 44 61 88 13 3 4 7 20

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Bourque was just a more well rounded defenseman. Not saying MacInnis wasnt, but Bourque was nearly flawless. He was the face of the Bruins for 20 years. He led that team. It surprises me too that the only Norris MacInnis won was in 1999. To his credit he had some great defensman to fight it out with as well.

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