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RW Sebastian Collberg (2012, 33rd overall, Montreal; traded to NYI)

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11-07-2012, 05:16 PM
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I don't usually disagree with Swedish prospects' decision to stay home, but in this case, you have to think Collberg would be better served in the CHL.
Similar situation was happening with Backlund for the Flames. Darryl Sutter at the time managed to get Backlund to leave his team, and join the Kelowna Rockets mid-season (or thereabouts).

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11-07-2012, 05:47 PM
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Similar situation was happening with Backlund for the Flames. Darryl Sutter at the time managed to get Backlund to leave his team, and join the Kelowna Rockets mid-season (or thereabouts).
Yeah but thats because Kelowna drafted Backlund beforehand in the import draft, whereas no team holds Collberg's rights

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RW Sebastian Collberg - Frölunda, SEL / Örebro, Allsvenskan

Any news or update on this guy? How's he doing in the WJC I haven't watched Sweden this year

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12-30-2012, 07:14 PM
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Didn't get a lot of ice time in Frölunda, got loaned out to Örebro where he has been playing more and scoring some goals so definitely a better situation for him than last year.
Has scored a couple of goals (3?) so far in the WJC. Both wristers top shelf iirc. He's kinda streaky, nowhere to be found for 50 min then he just snipes it.
I don't know if my fellow Swedes would agree but he reminds me of André Petersson, but better.

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12-30-2012, 07:49 PM
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Didn't get a lot of ice time in Frölunda, got loaned out to Örebro where he has been playing more and scoring some goals so definitely a better situation for him than last year.
Has scored a couple of goals (3?) so far in the WJC. Both wristers top shelf iirc. He's kinda streaky, nowhere to be found for 50 min then he just snipes it.
I don't know if my fellow Swedes would agree but he reminds me of André Petersson, but better.
André: smarter, better hands, slower. The guy you want to run a PP
Sebbe: better shot, faster, less hockey IQ. The guy you would like to shot on the PP.

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12-30-2012, 08:30 PM
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Has a good amount of points, glad he was moved down from Frolunda. Gets more ice time.

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12-31-2012, 03:09 AM
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His finishing and offensive awareness has really improved in this year. Last year i thought he was going to be this flashy fast skater that is nice to watch but dont contribute much on the scoresheet, but i guess i can say goodbye to that. Looked absolutely fantastic so far in the WJC. Very nice one timers on the PP and playing good on even strength with good responsibility both ends. Imo he is looking better than Forsberg.

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12-31-2012, 09:29 AM
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Didn't get a lot of ice time in Frölunda, got loaned out to Örebro where he has been playing more and scoring some goals so definitely a better situation for him than last year.
Has scored a couple of goals (3?) so far in the WJC. Both wristers top shelf iirc. He's kinda streaky, nowhere to be found for 50 min then he just snipes it.
I don't know if my fellow Swedes would agree but he reminds me of André Petersson, but better.
I agree. Slightly better checker, a little bigger. Petersson might be a bit more of a stick-handler than Collberg, Collberg has a bit deadlier shot. Less risk with Collberg than Petersson.

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Collberg needs more space and time to shot then Petersson though.

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I really wanted this kid at the draft. He will be a good one.

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12-31-2012, 12:52 PM
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I really wanted this kid at the draft. He will be a good one.
Yea, imagine him and Karlsson on the same PP.

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Any news or update on this guy? How's he doing in the WJC I haven't watched Sweden this year
So far in the WJC, he's got 3G 2A for 5PTS. That puts him 9th for scoring. Gally is in third place with 2G 5A for 7PTS. RNH is in first place with 11PTS.

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Yea, imagine him and Karlsson on the same PP.
That could make for a lethal Swedish-style PP!! especially if Alfredsson can be there...not sure if he will retire but was always a Alfie fan when it came to the Sens...and really like humble/down-to-earth Phillips).

I'm hoping Collberg could one day be a force for the Habs on the PP.
(PP specialist).

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He's been great on the PP, but not as great at 5v5

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I really wanted this kid at the draft. He will be a good one.
How does he compare to Alfredsson at same age?

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What does his future realistically look like at this point? 2 points in 10 AHL games this year, spent one game in the ECHL and seems like over the past couple of years he hasn't really found his scoring touch. Habs/Islanders fans or anyone who has followed him care to comment on his current state and what you project him to be at his realistic peak?

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12-21-2014, 08:52 PM
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What does his future realistically look like at this point? 2 points in 10 AHL games this year, spent one game in the ECHL and seems like over the past couple of years he hasn't really found his scoring touch. Habs/Islanders fans or anyone who has followed him care to comment on his current state and what you project him to be at his realistic peak?
I'm not really sure, from what I heard in the SEL he also had trouble scoring (albeit with low icetime), however his play improved overall from year to year. I think he can still turn into a top 9 winger but he really needs to go on a streak and gain some confidence; which is why many Habs fans wished he went to the CHL after being drafted.

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12-21-2014, 08:53 PM
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What does his future realistically look like at this point? 2 points in 10 AHL games this year, spent one game in the ECHL and seems like over the past couple of years he hasn't really found his scoring touch. Habs/Islanders fans or anyone who has followed him care to comment on his current state and what you project him to be at his realistic peak?
Well he's too good for the ECHL, that's pretty clear at this point. Remains to be seen how he'll improve in the AHL. Didn't look good so far, goes and will probably gain his confidence back in the ECHL, and we'll see how he does once he goes back in the AHL. Again, I will say this for having seen him really closely during the Habs development camps....this kid has one of the best wristers I've seen INCLUDING NHL'ers. But he has to fix the rest of his overall game. Still think he can do it. Might take more time than anticipated.

I still also belive that he got screwed in Sweden. He was doing better than his stats indicated and often got shafted by his coach whoever they were. While they mostly often say how it's way better to develop in that higher league than in the CHL, I believe that for him, he should have been in the CHL instead. Think that he has some progression to do to make out for the years he lost in Sweden. He is better than his stats indicates. But it doesn't mean he doesn't have some work to do though.

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I also believe that he got screwed in Sweden. He was doing better than his stats indicated and often got shafted by his coach whoever they were. While they mostly often say how it's way better to develop in that higher league than in the CHL, I believe that for him, he should have been in the CHL instead. Think that he has some progression to do to make out for the years he lost in Sweden. He is better than his stats indicates. But it doesn't mean he doesn't have some work to do though.
Yeah but if I remember he only has himself to blame. Didn't he re-sign down there even though he kept being treated like a red-headed step-child? He should've come over the pond earlier, he hasn't made much progression but then again wasn't he getting like 5-6 minutes a game and getting scratched too out in the SEL?

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Yeah but if I remember he only has himself to blame. Didn't he re-sign down there even though he kept being treated like a red-headed step-child? He should've come over the pond earlier, he hasn't made much progression but then again wasn't he getting like 5-6 minutes a game and getting scratched too out in the SEL?
Yeah, but in his last year, if I remember correctly, Frolunda changed their coach and went with the coach that had coached him during the WJC. Which made people think that he would have now all the chance in the world to flourish, which I disagreed as that coach, as great as he thought he was, was now in the big leagues, and had to please and play his vets, no matter how he thought Collberg was a good junior player. And it did end up that way in the end. But we don't know if there was a real effort to make him come in the CHL though....Was Collberg ever drafted in a CHL import draft?

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He is a huge project right now. He just needs to play senior hockey because he has actually not played a lot of that.

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Can't say I seen him play but it seems like if he ever makes it he will top out as a 2nd line winger. Islanders could use another RW so it's not like he has much competition for the next couple years(Ho Sang to me is 2-3 years away).

I would say his time in the AHL has been disappointing but his short stint in the ECHL does show he actually does have some skill. I am guessing he will get another year in the AHL next season and hopefully by that time he gets himself on the short list to be called up incase of injury(as it stands right now I don't see him getting called up even if half our forwards went down)

I don't think he increased his value any since he was drafted and would sort of be categorized as a "B" prospect

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Yeah, but in his last year, if I remember correctly, Frolunda changed their coach and went with the coach that had coached him during the WJC. Which made people think that he would have now all the chance in the world to flourish, which I disagreed as that coach, as great as he thought he was, was now in the big leagues, and had to please and play his vets, no matter how he thought Collberg was a good junior player. And it did end up that way in the end. But we don't know if there was a real effort to make him come in the CHL though....Was Collberg ever drafted in a CHL import draft?
I can't find any info on Collberg in the CHL import draft site. But I'm sure if he had said he was interested he'd of gotten a bite especially after the solid World Juniors he had.

I always find it sad when you see something like that happen to a guy with potential. A couple of bad decisions and coaches that don't believe in you during important formative years and BOOM! you're in the ECHL.

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I only caught one Bridgeport game this year and he had a couple of shifts where he really stood out, but for the most part he wasn't noticeable. Not sure how much of that has to do with the lack of talent up front for Bridgeport, but you'd assume that a player of his caliber would at least separate himself from the pack - even when he's not scoring.

Luckily for the Islanders, they have a lot of young forwards at the NHL level which should allow them to be as patient as they need to be with Collberg. If it works out, great. If not, it shouldn't be the end of the world. Especially with Okposo and Strome locking down the NHL top-six RW, and with Ho-Sang on the way a little over a year from now.

Definitely rooting for him though.

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He went down the ECHL for conditioning.

Seems like hasn't found his groove after returning from shoulder surgery this summer.

Keep an eye on him for the second half.

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