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Drouin...1st overall pick?

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12-30-2012, 06:52 PM
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MacKinnon being underrated here. His speed reminds me of Taylor Hall and Hall creates a lot of space for himself as well as teammates when he's going at full speed out there. Mac is a good playmaker and goalscorer too but his speed is what gives him the edge over Drouin, imo.

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12-30-2012, 06:57 PM
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I'd say there is a small chance of it, but I still think Mackinnon will go #1. Whether Drouin goes before Jones is a good question though. Here is how I see the top 10:

1. Mackinnon
2. Drouin
3. Jones
4. Barkov
5. Lindholm
6. Monahan
7. Ristolainen
8. Shinkaruk
9. Pulock
10. Lazar

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12-30-2012, 06:58 PM
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Now MacKinnon is going to get over analyzed.

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12-30-2012, 07:25 PM
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I'd stil go Jones, said that since day 1. I'm of the realization that Drouin being a more valuable player on the WJC team doesn't speak to their NHL futures.

Jones comes off as one of the freakiest athletes to ever wear skates. He may stand 6'5-6'6 someday and he's got the agility and footwork of an NBA player.

I also think that if USA hockey gets anymore athletes of Seth Jones' pedigree, athletes that could otherwise play high levels of football or basketball...they'll start handing us our ***** in international competition at the highest level of hockey. I think he could be dominant.

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12-30-2012, 07:31 PM
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LOL no. Everyone is saying its a possibility but who cares about possibilities. Just answer this...if your team is picking first overall do you take Drouin or not? The answer for everyone will most likely be no. People seem to be forgetting how good Mackinnon is...

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12-30-2012, 08:05 PM
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1rst ? No way, 3rd or 4rth ? It is quite possible, I have had my reservations about himbut he is proving me wrong again and again. Would be perfect on Gally's wing.

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12-30-2012, 08:15 PM
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That is laughable it is Nathan and Seth, unless a team is stacked on d like Nashville and needs a center (or Edmonton that really could use Barkov's skill set and size down the middle, but even if I was drafting 2nd with Edmonton I would still take Jones)
Edmonton won't be picking that high this year. If the NHL comes back they will have a good team, maybe not a playoff team but good enough not to pick in the top 5. If the lockout goes the whole year they won't have a high shot in a 30 team lottery because they've had 3 number 1 picks in a row.

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12-30-2012, 08:40 PM
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Every shift ( although not many thanks to Spott) I have seen McKinnon at this years WJC has not let me to believe he shouldn't be a #1 pick.

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12-30-2012, 09:08 PM
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Drouin is a natural C and still from time to time plays C with Halifax. Not sure why everybody is knocking him for being a winger, he is not. The fact that he is a pure playmaker that loves to handle the puck makes him a logical bet to end up as a C.
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12-30-2012, 09:32 PM
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I'm starting to think its a possility (albeit a small one). I still think Jones is better than either of them though
I am truly puzzled by this view. Jones has been mistake-prone and is a whole year older than McK.

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12-30-2012, 09:33 PM
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Now MacKinnon is going to get over analyzed.
He has been overanalyzed for two years now. People are now not ranking him first to be cute.

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12-30-2012, 09:35 PM
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Everyone is saying that MacKinnon is the consensus number 1 pick this upcoming draft with Jones at a close 2nd, but does anyone think Drouin can go 1st?

He has a better PPG average (2.00, MacKinnon: 1.73) and only has 4 less points in 6 less games. Has only 3 less goals while taking 65 less shots. He is better offensively, plus, he is outplaying MacKinnon in the WJC who is listed as their 13th forward.
I dont think they have dressed 13 forwards yet for a game.......

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12-30-2012, 09:36 PM
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I'm starting to think its a possility (albeit a small one). I still think Jones is better than either of them though
Not today he wasnt........

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12-30-2012, 09:47 PM
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Edmonton won't be picking that high this year. If the NHL comes back they will have a good team, maybe not a playoff team but good enough not to pick in the top 5. If the lockout goes the whole year they won't have a high shot in a 30 team lottery because they've had 3 number 1 picks in a row.
I don't think they will pick that high either was just using the team makeup as an example, ie their need for a big dominant center, might over ride the usual take the best player thing that is always peddled out there.

Not that they couldn't use Jones but Barkov might be a slightly better fit for their team needs.

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12-30-2012, 09:55 PM
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I am truly puzzled by this view. Jones has been mistake-prone and is a whole year older than McK.
they are the same age for purposes of the draft and that won't be any consideration at all.

Of course Dmen are always more mistake prone but Seth has the ability to dominate games from both an offensive and defensive point of view.

His gaff today isn't going to make any difference to the scouts IMO.

For that matter the tourney isn't going to change much either, I mean scouts look at everything and also project what a player will become not exactly what they are now.

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12-30-2012, 09:56 PM
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they are the same age for purposes of the draft
Jones is 18 and should be better than that to go #1.

If he was 17 I'd cut him some slack. But he's not.

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scouts look at everything and also project what a player will become not exactly what they are now.
I'm sure they will and make the right call to pass on him at #1.

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12-30-2012, 09:59 PM
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Now MacKinnon is going to get over analyzed.
Jones is getting overanalysed big time, thanks to this tournament.

People are judging him on his mistakes not the tool set.
He's made a few mistakes, but he also makes plays ver few can fathom.

I love how much he wants the puck.

Jones is the best defensman at this tournament.

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12-30-2012, 10:02 PM
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Watching them both play, Drouin reminds me of Jordan Eberle, and Mackinnon reminds me of a more skilled Taylor Hall with better hockey sense. Mackinnon, not really that close IMO

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12-30-2012, 10:36 PM
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I remember after the Canada games some of you fools were convinced Lazar was going to be number 1 over MacKinnon. How'd that end up? You can base a prospects draft position over 1 tournament (coming from a big Drouin fan)

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12-30-2012, 10:36 PM
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Certainly not consensus that Mackinnon is #1 at this point, Bob Mack said the other day that out of 10 scouts he asked the other day 7 would take Mackinnon 1st and 3 would take Jones. At this point its still close between the 2.

And Personally, I would take Jones.

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12-30-2012, 10:38 PM
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Jones is getting overanalysed big time, thanks to this tournament.

People are judging him on his mistakes not the tool set.
He's made a few mistakes, but he also makes plays ver few can fathom.

I love how much he wants the puck.

Jones is the best defensman at this tournament.
Tools, tools, tools.

Jones has NHL tools like no other Dman in this tournament has. He makes Hamilton look so average in terms of NHL prospect.

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12-30-2012, 10:53 PM
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I'd assume that in this case most GMs would make the safe bet and pick Mackinnon ahead of Drouin, but it's anybody's guess how they evolve once in the pro ranks.

Back in 1998, it would have been pretty crazy a notion for GMs to have taken Brad Richards 1st overall ahead of his much more highly hyped teammate Vincent Lecavalier, but looking back on it now, there's a pretty good argument that could be made for Richards over Lecavalier over the long run.

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12-30-2012, 10:58 PM
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Still don't think you can pass on a defenseman like Jones.

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12-30-2012, 11:09 PM
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I am truly puzzled by this view. Jones has been mistake-prone and is a whole year older than McK.
Wow, you watch three games in the WJC and suddenly everyone's a pro scout.

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12-31-2012, 12:11 AM
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I'm starting to believe that he could go 1st... More people I talk to believe he's progressing at greater clip than Nate, which is saying something...

He can control the play and makes others around him better, being the total offensive package... The size and whatever defensive issues he may have are not that big... Looking at the last few 1st overalls, he's right there with them..He's no Selke winner, but is not lost as some seem to paint him...

As for his position, I don't think that makes a huge difference. So what if he's not a center? I don't know why people say he's not a winger too lol..

Is he good enough to over Nate, Jones and Barkov? That's the thing with this draft, there's a lot of competition at the top, and I believe it's MacKinnon's spot right now.... #1-2 is a good possibility for the Moose players, but Drouin still has to progress to go #1..

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