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12-31-2012, 02:30 AM
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Their mascot damn well better be a mustachioed William Hurt.

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Their mascot damn well better be a mustachioed William Hurt.
Sadly not, it appears to be this ****wad. Can someone here Photoshop Mr. Hurt's feathered coif and 'stache on to this thing?

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12-31-2012, 06:29 AM
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Odds this is their goal song? (This actually was the USHL Omaha Lancers' song back in the early 90s. Lol)
That was the goal song for my create a pro Ludwig Boltzman in nhl 10.

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12-31-2012, 06:58 AM
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They missed it.

It says something though that we live in a culture where people actually believe something like that might be possible / asked for.

You got me, but right now anythings possible.

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Heat is such a dumb name for a hockey team.
I grant you that... but let's be honest: it's a dumb name for a basketball team too. What's next, the Montreal Chilly, the Chicago Windy, the Sante Fe Dry? Modern sports names too often suck / sound like they were the brainchild of someone from MLS.


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Sadly not, it appears to be this ****wad. Can someone here Photoshop Mr. Hurt's feathered coif and 'stache on to this thing?
I read something about their mascot. Has to do with some type of hawk being a local predator common to that area. I think they should've chosen a sasquatch (although I think that one's already taken, you can never have too many sasquatch mascots). They weren't smart enough to figure out that if they named their team the Heat, they would have no mascot options.

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My general rule is to dislike any team who's name doesn't end with an "s".

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12-31-2012, 11:54 AM
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Seems pretty reasonable to me. Let's try it.

Heat - do not like

Lightning - do not like

Thunder - uh-oh (I find it hard to dislike the Thunder, since they have the best chance of beating the Heat)

Avalanche - more trouble (I cannot disavow rooting for the Avs in the 90s vs. Detroit)

Fire - do not like

Crew - hate

DC United - do not like

Dynamo - do not like

Galaxy - do not like

Impact - hate

Revolution - do not like

Union - do not like

Sporting - hate


I think there is enough evidence that we can submit the following theorem:

Sports teams named after abstract concepts, scientific concepts, and which do not end in s, are almost certain to be worthy of your principled hatred.


That said we have another group that ends in s but which also have no grounding in likability. Witness:


Sounders - Not terrible but not likable either.

Timbers - did someone really think this was a good idea? It's almost as bad as naming your team... after tree leaves.

Earthquakes - mmmm.... nope. But like the Avalanche, it's tolerable because it seems like a nature analogy that could in some situations apply to "what you'd do to the opposition". Joe Sakic and Peter Foresberg buried opponents in an avalanche of goals. And the guys who play from the earthquakes bring you to your knees and drop stuff on your head. Still dorktacular but I can tolerate it.

Rapids - not even as cool as earthquakes, let alone avalanche.

I don't know where we go from here but I know we can negotiate an agreement if we try. And let's be honest: at least one original six team has a really stupid name, and logo for that matter.



Shouldn't they have used a logo that looks like this?


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12-31-2012, 02:15 PM
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I grant you that... but let's be honest: it's a dumb name for a basketball team too. What's next, the Montreal Chilly, the Chicago Windy, the Sante Fe Dry? Modern sports names too often suck / sound like they were the brainchild of someone from MLS.
To be fair, Heat is a noun and everything else you said is an adjective. Its just a quantitative noun that never takes on a plural form.

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Lightning - do not like

Thunder - uh-oh (I find it hard to dislike the Thunder, since they have the best chance of beating the Heat)
I think Lightning is a solid name. Definitely better than Thunder. One is an awesome discharge of electricity. The other is noise. And just because it doesn't end in an s doesn't mean it isn't still plural. Its like the Manitoba Moose. Though that one cheats and ends in an S sound already

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Avalanche - more trouble (I cannot disavow rooting for the Avs in the 90s vs. Detroit)
I think it works with hockey because its on ice. An avalanche being a collection of snow; it makes sense that the team would come together to be one avalanche too. Avalanches would be a terrible name. Good name.

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Fire - do not like
Generic, but again Fire makes sense as a collective more than fires would. Though I think Flames makes a much better team name in that case.

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Crew - hate
Crap name, but not because of the lack of an S. I have no problem with a collection being used in its singular form. But its literally a synonym of the word Team.

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DC United - do not like
Adjective. bad name
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Dynamo - do not like
Singular. Bad name

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Galaxy - do not like
Its singular, but I think it works because a galaxy is a collection of stars (and everything else) and the team is in LA. With movie stars and stuff. actually sort of clever. And Galaxy is better than Galaxies because again its a collection of things which typically works better in singular form.
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Impact - hate

Revolution - do not like

Union - do not like
These names are bad. These names with an S at the end would be just as bad or worse.
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Sporting - hate
adjective. bad name

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I think there is enough evidence that we can submit the following theorem:

Sports teams named after abstract concepts, scientific concepts, and which do not end in s, are almost certain to be worthy of your principled hatred.
The problem is not the lack of an S at the end in my opinion. The problem is using singular nouns or adjectives as names. These tend to not end in an S. The lack of an S is not the fundamental problem though.

Also, there's nothing wrong with science. Lightning is a physical thing that can be measured and felt. You can even see lightning. Heat is a bit more abstract because you can't see it. The Gravity or The Inertia would be bad team names because they are concepts or quantities as opposed to actual physical things. I'd put Heat a notch above those because you can feel it at least but really its not very good.


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12-31-2012, 02:27 PM
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Sounds like you're an English teacher.

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Sounds like you're an English teacher.
I'm actually a Physics teacher

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I'm actually a Physics teacher
You saved me from doing my job, so I appreciate it.

Galaxy is one of those names I'm so torn on. I don't care for the name in general, but the singular part of the name doesn't really bother me because of the sheer scope of what a Galaxy entails. On the other side I love it because of the fact that it really is a clever name. Only LA could pull off that name. On a similar note I give the Chicago Fire a pass because of the fact that, you know, the whole Great Chicago Fire thing. I hate the name Heat, both by Abbotsford and Miami. The Miami Heat get extra derision considering they entered a league that already had a team named the Suns in it for two damn decades.

Soccer team names in general I don't care for. I prefer teams to just go with the FC or whatever and have the nicknames be informal (like with Manchester United...United isn't the nickname, Red Devils is). Throw in the fact that half of these teams were named in the danger zone of awful marketing that was the mid-90s and there were a ton of awful and forced nicknames. As much as I hate Real Salt Lake Sporting Kansas City as a name, it's a million times better than Kansas City Wiz. I'd really rather the Galaxy just be formally named LAFC and have the nickname Galaxy be informal.

There are a few singular/non-S ending team names that work...I don't hate the Colorado Avalanche and I honestly like the name Tampa Bay Lightning...but when you start going into stuff like 'Wild' or 'Impact'...ugh.



Ugh.


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Sounds like you're an English teacher.


Seriously... Ogre your comments are way more grammar than physics. I was simply putting IHWR's concept to the test. Less about plurality than most teams ending in s refer to animals or natural disasters (Penguins, Hurricanes), and so I went through the horrifying roster of MLS names and a few others as a test. MLS being the only league with a lot of non-traditional names.

(Seriously, I did not realize how bad some of those newer MLS names are -- Christ they are 100% awful. What an embarrassment to sports fans everywhere. At least Chivas named themselves after liquor. I guess the MLS marketing people felt it wasn't enough of a challenge to win over fans on account of subpar soccer alone; they wanted to go full panda and use crappy names too!)



In any case, I would like to revise my theorem thusly:

If your sports team is not named after an animal, natural disaster or lethal occurrence (lightning, avalanche), it almost certainly has a name worthy of contempt. If you're an MLS fan, the odds your team name doesn't suck are exactly 3 in 19. 3 teams named "FC + City" without stupid extra name or modifier.



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BTW NHL currently reviewing NHLPA counter-proposal.

The odds they don't **** that up are decidedly worse than 3 in 19.

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Ugh.
Nobody beats 'em, though.

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NHL still considering COUNTAH OFFAH



At least it's not an outright rejection and mental breakdown presser this time.

"You like to re-negotiate as you go along, don't you? OK, here's MY countah-offah. Do we HAFTA cancel the season? What if we was just to kick the evah-lovin' **** out of you... could we play hockey then?!"

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Even if things aren't going well, the NHL is going to play nice through tomorrow at least. The PA's silly little vote authorizing the disclaimer of interest expires on Thursday, and the league doesn't want to give the union any motivation to dissolve before then.

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I read on TSN that date is not binding / the union can still disclaim interest after, but the bigger issue there is, if they were so ready to break it up and sue because of union representation issues, why are they still negotiating right now like usual? Pretty much proves it's a gimmick, and why the NHLPA will get destroyed in court. Especially a NY court, if a judge in another circuit refuses to hear the case because of the NHL's existing suit in NY.

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Update: meeting now expected to start at 9 pm ET. League needed extra time to complete its response to NHLPA counter.
It makes me think that the PA's offer may have been genuine if the league is taking this much time.

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It's enough to make you want to eat a Hot Fudge Sundae with Cherry Sprinkles and Pistachios. This cooperation is heart-warming.


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I think Red Panda describes the negotiation process well.

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I think Red Panda describes the negotiation process well.
I cannot stop laughing at red panda gifs. Why are they so clumsy? Does anyone know the real reason why?

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