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01-01-2013, 02:41 AM
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I added calgarys 1st, I think it's an overpayment.
Sens need quality, not quantity.

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01-01-2013, 02:42 AM
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Sens need quality, not quantity.
If there pick is top 5, I would probably do it. At this point tho, its too much of a risk to make the deal imo.

However Spezza should be kept, he will probably be our next Captain when Alfies gone next year, we will need a leader to lead the young kids.

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01-01-2013, 02:46 AM
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An I the only one who thinks Baertschi will be a consistent 30 goal scorer ?

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01-01-2013, 02:59 AM
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An I the only one who thinks Baertschi will be a consistent 30 goal scorer ?
I think he could be. You don't trade a superstar center (or potential superstar center) for a possible (or probable?) goal scoring winger unless that winger is near the best (ie, 2007 Ovechkin). Baertschi hasn't proven nearly enough to be a good piece for Spezza or Duchene.

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01-01-2013, 03:00 AM
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well Spezza is getting old



So Duchene is gonna stay on the 3rd line forever?

Is the biggest need for the Avs scoring wingers? That's what I thought it was. If not we can change the prospects.
Duchene isn't on the 3rd line. The Avs like to run 3 scoring lines. More like a 1A, 1B, 1C type offense. Duchene had an injury filled year and everyone is trying to lowball. This is a guy who was just named the best Centre in the Spengler's cup, he's not getting traded for prospects.

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01-01-2013, 03:13 AM
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I think he could be. You don't trade a superstar center (or potential superstar center) for a possible (or probable?) goal scoring winger unless that winger is near the best (ie, 2007 Ovechkin). Baertschi hasn't proven nearly enough to be a good piece for Spezza or Duchene.
For sure, but if I was Calgary I'd hold onto him, unless the deal was great. Like this one.

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01-01-2013, 03:19 AM
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An I the only one who thinks Baertschi will be a consistent 30 goal scorer ?
He could probably step into the NHL right now and do that. He has 40 goal potential IMO. Definitely an underrated prospect (and he is rated pretty highly).

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01-01-2013, 03:19 AM
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For sure, but if I was Calgary I'd hold onto him, unless the deal was great. Like this one.
Nobody is saying Baertshci is a bad prospect. But he's not enough of a starting point for either Spezza or Duchene.

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He could probably step into the NHL right now and do that. He has 40 goal potential IMO. Definitely an underrated prospect (and he is rated pretty highly).
I really doubt that considering he's not even on paced to do that in the AHL.

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I really doubt that considering he's not even on paced to do that in the AHL.
Schultz is at a PPG pace in the AHL. Think he could do that in the NHL?

AHL production doesn't mean much at all. Baertschi is something special, and I think he'll be an almost perfect replacement for Iginla (one of the best power forwards of the last decade). He has the tools and he'll get the opportunity to do so.

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Schultz is at a PPG pace in the AHL. Think he could do that in the NHL?

AHL production doesn't mean much at all. Baertschi is something special, and I think he'll be an almost perfect replacement for Iginla (one of the best power forwards of the last decade). He has the tools and he'll get the opportunity to do so.
Do you honestly think that's the same situation? Obviously the NHL is a harder league so it'd be unrealistic for Schultz to keep at that pace. You think Baertschi will somehow manage to score more points in a bigger and faster league as oppose to the AHL?

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01-01-2013, 03:33 AM
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from the Avs perspective...

wut.


you joking breh? abysmal

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from the Avs perspective...

wut.


you joking breh? abysmal
Agreed.

Why would the Avs do this?

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01-01-2013, 11:32 AM
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Calgary

IN:Spezza,Bishop
OUT: Baertschi, 2013 2nd round pick (CAL), Gaudreau

Ottawa

IN: Duchene, Gaudreau
OUT:Spezza,Bishop,Noesen


Colorado
IN:Baertschi,Noesen,2013 2nd round pick (CAL)
OUT: Duchene

Only Calgary do this IMO


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01-01-2013, 11:47 AM
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well Spezza is getting old



So Duchene is gonna stay on the 3rd line forever?

Is the biggest need for the Avs scoring wingers? That's what I thought it was. If not we can change the prospects.
Duchene is a 3rd line center? That's news to me and I didn't miss a single game of his in the NHL.

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01-01-2013, 12:00 PM
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Is the biggest need for the Avs scoring wingers? That's what I thought it was. If not we can change the prospects.
The Avs need top 4 defensemen now. After EJ all they have are mediocre #4-5 guys.

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01-01-2013, 12:17 PM
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Trading Spezza is not in Ottawa's cards

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01-01-2013, 12:23 PM
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Ottawa says lol no.

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Why do the Avs do this? I honestly do not understand why we would move Duchene for prospects.

Look around the league, find a team with a young potential top pairing defender and propose Duchene to them. THEN you'd be making something at least slightly grounded in reality.

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01-01-2013, 12:41 PM
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Just for fun, is this more fair to all teams?

To Ottawa:
Edler, Duchene, Raymond

Ottawa gets a perfect D partner for Karlsson, a #1 centre to replace Spezza and a winger that can fill a top 6 hole.

To Vancouver:
Michalek, Baertschi,

Vancouver gets a top 3 winger capable of LW or RW and a high end prospect. Vancouver doesn't need much to keep contending for the cup.

To Calgary:
Spezza, Stone, Hishon

Calgary gets a top #1 centre and franchise player to play with Iginla, two high end prospects

To Colorado:
Bishop, Bouwmeester, Zibanejad, Gaunce

Colorado gets a solid back up that can push Varlomov every night for a job, a solid defenceman to shore up the back end, and 2 high end prospects, one who is likely to have chemistry playing together for Sweden.

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01-01-2013, 12:51 PM
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Why does Calgary need Bishop? No disrespect to Spezza but I'd rather just have Duchene for a career than 4 or 5 good years of Spezza. Trade really doesn't make sense for anyone

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Just for fun, is this more fair to all teams?

To Ottawa:
Edler, Duchene, Raymond

Ottawa gets a perfect D partner for Karlsson, a #1 centre to replace Spezza and a winger that can fill a top 6 hole.

To Vancouver:
Michalek, Baertschi,

Vancouver gets a top 3 winger capable of LW or RW and a high end prospect. Vancouver doesn't need much to keep contending for the cup.

To Calgary:
Spezza, Stone, Hishon

Calgary gets a top #1 centre and franchise player to play with Iginla, two high end prospects

To Colorado:
Bishop, Bouwmeester, Zibanejad, Gaunce

Colorado gets a solid back up that can push Varlomov every night for a job, a solid defenceman to shore up the back end, and 2 high end prospects, one who is likely to have chemistry playing together for Sweden.
Ottawa gets shafted! Switch Raymond for Schneider and its a little closer

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01-01-2013, 01:12 PM
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Just for fun, is this more fair to all teams?

To Ottawa:
Edler, Duchene, Raymond

Ottawa gets a perfect D partner for Karlsson, a #1 centre to replace Spezza and a winger that can fill a top 6 hole.

To Vancouver:
Michalek, Baertschi,

Vancouver gets a top 3 winger capable of LW or RW and a high end prospect. Vancouver doesn't need much to keep contending for the cup.

To Calgary:
Spezza, Stone, Hishon

Calgary gets a top #1 centre and franchise player to play with Iginla, two high end prospects

To Colorado:
Bishop, Bouwmeester, Zibanejad, Gaunce

Colorado gets a solid back up that can push Varlomov every night for a job, a solid defenceman to shore up the back end, and 2 high end prospects, one who is likely to have chemistry playing together for Sweden.
Avs have absolutely, I repeat absolutely no reason to trade for Bishop (or any other golaie for that matter), with Varlamov and JSG in the NHL and Pickard, Aittokallio, Milln and Patterson in the pipeline. JBo fits a need, but Duchene is far more valuable and there's just no need to bring in more centers with Stastny and Radar rounding out the top 6 and with Sgarbossa doing great in the AHL.

EDIT:

I didn't even notice we'd be trading Hishon as well, he's value is at the all time low, but he's finally starting to get better and after all the time waiting for him to get healthy Avs won't just kick him to the curb.

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The only way Spezza leaves Ottawa is if he walks. There's a certain way GMBM runs the sens and he won't trade guys like spezza.

There's always a price, but at the end of the day I think GM Brian Murray wants a reputation for this organization were he will be another player playing their whole career and retiring here like Phillips Alfie and Neil.

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Just for fun, is this more fair to all teams?

To Ottawa:
Edler, Duchene, Raymond

Ottawa gets a perfect D partner for Karlsson, a #1 centre to replace Spezza and a winger that can fill a top 6 hole.

To Vancouver:
Michalek, Baertschi,

Vancouver gets a top 3 winger capable of LW or RW and a high end prospect. Vancouver doesn't need much to keep contending for the cup.

To Calgary:
Spezza, Stone, Hishon

Calgary gets a top #1 centre and franchise player to play with Iginla, two high end prospects

To Colorado:
Bishop, Bouwmeester, Zibanejad, Gaunce

Colorado gets a solid back up that can push Varlomov every night for a job, a solid defenceman to shore up the back end, and 2 high end prospects, one who is likely to have chemistry playing together for Sweden.
I'd be okay with that from a Vancouver perspective.

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