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01-01-2013, 05:34 PM
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Lol, Winnipeg is an absolute dump. Who are you kidding?

From Inkster to Stafford is a dump. Like 60% of the city.
Haha, not sure if serious. I often spend time in Winnipeg and don't hesitate to go downtown or cross whatever neighbourhood I need to to get to people's houses. Only some of the northwest of the city (I think that's where Inkster's at) and Point Douglas make my eyes squint a bit but otherwise it's just like any other city. There's nothing worse or more widespread than I alraedy see in Vancouver.

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So I know its a little early as this tournament just started but I've finally given in. I wanna make the trip to Malmo for the 2014 tournament. I fully understand how ticket packages work when the tournament is here in Canada but does anyone know when and how ticket packages for next year will be made available? How much they might be (I'm hoping the tickets themselves are cheaper in Europe then when its played in NA)

Me and a buddy may be down to make the trip to Sweden. I've never been to Europe so why not start with Sweden at Christmas

Any info regarding price, trip packages, cost of anything would be greatly appreciated.
Does anybody think you have to book this trip as early as you would if it was being held in Canada. I would think you'd have plenty of time but maybe I'm mistaken.

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My thoughts exactly.
Lots of makeup and sexy looks isn't all that makes women beatuiful. Most of these girls are quite average.
So without knowing any of them you've concluded they are average? Interesting technique, attack their self esteem to make them more likely to come home with you. We should hang out.

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I just LOL at all the "Is it safe to go to Sweden?" comments. You guys dont know that much bout the world, huh? If youre afraid to go to Sweden, youre not safe anywhere on the entire globe.

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I just LOL at all the "Is it safe to go to Sweden?" comments. You guys dont know that much bout the world, huh? If youre afraid to go to Sweden, youre not safe anywhere on the entire globe.
I was surprised to read so many people making it seem dangerous. It reminds me alot of people who think the downtown east side of Vancouver is dangerous. Clearly they've either never been or are very easily frightened.

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I just LOL at all the "Is it safe to go to Sweden?" comments. You guys dont know that much bout the world, huh? If youre afraid to go to Sweden, youre not safe anywhere on the entire globe.
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Sweden isn't as safe as you think, and Malmö is probably one the most dangerous cities in northern europe adjusted after population size /number of reported crimes. Although the Swedes calling the place a total dump and all that probably haven't been abroad or gone off-charter from whatever luxury trip they've taken.

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So without knowing any of them you've concluded they are average? Interesting technique, attack their self esteem to make them more likely to come home with you. We should hang out.

Ehm... What?

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I was surprised to read so many people making it seem dangerous. It reminds me alot of people who think the downtown east side of Vancouver is dangerous. Clearly they've either never been or are very easily frightened.
Yeah silly to be scared of crowds of homeless drug addicts in the middle of the night. Hastings is like a carnival, people just want to have fun!

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http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Sweden isn't as safe as you think, and Malmö is probably one the most dangerous cities in northern europe adjusted after population size /number of reported crimes. Although the Swedes calling the place a total dump and all that probably haven't been abroad or gone off-charter from whatever luxury trip they've taken.
The index you posted is based on a formula that churns out an estimate of crime levels; said estimates are in turn based mostly on the perception of criminality. By looking at the script they posted on the website, they don't seem to use any actual data collected by law enforcement departments.

It isn't necessarily a horrible way to estimate crime since for various reasons, comparing raw data between countries is mostly useless. But it's still pretty poor because it simply measures what people believe about crime levels and their feeling of safety. Unfortunately the website does not provide a source from which they drew the inputs for the formula so the reliability is even lower.

A Swede has a completely different perception of what is considered "safe"; so does an American; so does a Malaysian; so does a Brazilian and so on.

As a quick anecdote, Winnipeg is the "murder capital of Canada" with a homicide rate of 4.2 per 100,000. That's on par with the average in the United States which sits at the same number. Louisiana is the most "murderous" state with a rate of 11.8.

But that 11.8 is less than half of the homicide rate of Rio de Janeiro, which currently sits at 24.3. By the way, perception of safety in the city has drastically improved and people feel much more secure when walking the streets - after all, it's the lowest rate in 21 years.

It's all in our heads.

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Yeah silly to be scared of crowds of homeless drug addicts in the middle of the night. Hastings is like a carnival, people just want to have fun!
You certainly have a much higher chance of something happening to you hanging out on Granville Street with all of the drunken, suburban, weekend warriors with homes.

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Haha, not sure if serious. I often spend time in Winnipeg and don't hesitate to go downtown or cross whatever neighbourhood I need to to get to people's houses. Only some of the northwest of the city (I think that's where Inkster's at) and Point Douglas make my eyes squint a bit but otherwise it's just like any other city. There's nothing worse or more widespread than I alraedy see in Vancouver.
Cool. I lived in Winnipeg for 18 years. Moved to Vancouver 10 years ago.

Wpg is a straight dump.

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This thread has really gone off the rails. We are thinking of going to the WJC's next year in Sweden too. The information being provided here isn't really going to help.

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I don't think any of you will be murdered in Malmö. Most of the shootings involves criminals, as in a gangster shooting the other gangster, you know the justice of the street. So unless you are involved in drug affairs you should be fine. I've never heard of a killed hockey fan in Malmö or anywere else in Sweden, but we'll see next year I guess, maybe there will be stacks with bleeding canadian tourists at the Malmö streets, who knows...

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Why even bring up a residential area like Rosengård in a discussion about the WJC? Or do you seriously think hockey tourists will end up there? Some people sure don't waste any chance.

Malmö has a great arena and Copenhagen is close nearby. Should be a good tournament.

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Having spent the better part of the last two years in Sweden, I find it pretty interesting how much rivalry there is between cities/areas of Sweden. A city from the north makes fun of each different area in the south in a different way, Malmo versus Stockholm versus Goteborg (and vice versa south to north).... and not only that within the area (say Norrland) they make fun of the people from different communites relatively close by. Like saying the people from a town 10km away talk funny, (it is interesting to have so many different accents in a small area (Sweden) compared to Canada.....it would be like having 20 fairly different accents all in Manitoba).

In Canada people get on eachother about where you live or are from but in general it is not that bad and lots of the time based on a sports team rivalry (other than francophone/anglophone issues which can get real heated)...Rivalries and badmouthing do exist for sure but I do not notice it as much. In general, people seems a little more appreciative of the other areas of Canada, not that Swedes aren`t , I just notice the rivalry a bit more.This could be just me, being new here,being more aware and the people trying to educate me about Sweden promote their areas a little more.


Anyways....I really like Malmo and area (and stockholm and lulea and goteborg). It is not unsafe (even in 'sketchy' areas and at night). Though maybe it is for a Swede, but I have a feeling a lot of this is based on Swedish rivalry. The city itself is pretty charming, the centrum pretty classic european style with fun nightlife and friendly people. It is close to Copenhagen, so time there is a must, one of my favourites in Scandanavia, but do not discount time in malmo as well (plus 20 euro a day on trains does add up if you were to stay in cph).

Things are generally more expensive here than north america. About 7-10 dollars for a beer in a bar, ....cheaper in cph, only slightly more expensive than Canada for grocery store/liquor store...though beware in Sweden you can only get 3.5% beer when system bolaget is not open (most of the time ), in cph cold 4-5% beers anytime/anywhere. Food relatively the same, more pricey, kebab/burger-fast food is about 7-10$ a meal. Easy to pay 30-50$ for a nicer dine in meal (in general restaurants here serve up better food than the same type in Canada). Expect to pay 100$ a night for a small hotel room close to centrum, and by small i mean small.). So it is pricey here, but just be glad it is not in Norway, unless you are making Norwegian money, Norway is crazy expensive.


Anyways do it! The Swedes are awesome people, while a little shy and quiet to start they quickly open up after a bit of talking (or a few drinks), just make them feel that their english really good (which it is , they just need to hear it). Don't act like a North American idiot on spring break and you will make friends quickly. They are knowledgable and passionate about hockey, just make sure you like at least a few Swedish players They have some really good Swedish food if ya want...reindeer, cloudberries, hardbread and caviar and every kind of cheese in a tube you could want (from bacon cheese to shrimp cheese),and max burger for your fast food cravings is a nice time (compared to bk and mc`ds). It will be Christmas and if you are lucky some will invite you over for gingerbread with blue cheese and glogg. You get to celebrate chirstmas a day early, and everyone here thinks the rest of the world does that and North americans are weird for celebrating a day late (while the opposite is true). You will learn drinking songs, christmas songs and in general the Swedes like singing when they party or on any holiday (not only when they talk )


And yes, Swedish girls are very cute, carry themselves well, speak english very well and think a Canadian accent is adorable (guess why I live here now with mig honung ...I know you dont say that Swedes, but a little Canadian swenglish does wonders)...just to try to out fancy the Swedish guys, they take care of themselves at least as well as the girls if not more.

thats what I got for ya.

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Having spent the better part of the last two years in Sweden, I find it pretty interesting how much rivalry there is between cities/areas of Sweden. A city from the north makes fun of each different area in the south in a different way, Malmo versus Stockholm versus Goteborg (and vice versa south to north).... and not only that within the area (say Norrland) they make fun of the people from different communites relatively close by. Like saying the people from a town 10km away talk funny, (it is interesting to have so many different accents in a small area (Sweden) compared to Canada.....it would be like having 20 fairly different accents all in Manitoba).

In Canada people get on eachother about where you live or are from but in general it is not that bad and lots of the time based on a sports team rivalry (other than francophone/anglophone issues which can get real heated)...Rivalries and badmouthing do exist for sure but I do not notice it as much. In general, people seems a little more appreciative of the other areas of Canada, not that Swedes aren`t , I just notice the rivalry a bit more.This could be just me, being new here,being more aware and the people trying to educate me about Sweden promote their areas a little more.


Anyways....I really like Malmo and area (and stockholm and lulea and goteborg). It is not unsafe (even in 'sketchy' areas and at night). Though maybe it is for a Swede, but I have a feeling a lot of this is based on Swedish rivalry. The city itself is pretty charming, the centrum pretty classic european style with fun nightlife and friendly people. It is close to Copenhagen, so time there is a must, one of my favourites in Scandanavia, but do not discount time in malmo as well (plus 20 euro a day on trains does add up if you were to stay in cph).

Things are generally more expensive here than north america. About 7-10 dollars for a beer in a bar, ....cheaper in cph, only slightly more expensive than Canada for grocery store/liquor store...though beware in Sweden you can only get 3.5% beer when system bolaget is not open (most of the time ), in cph cold 4-5% beers anytime/anywhere. Food relatively the same, more pricey, kebab/burger-fast food is about 7-10$ a meal. Easy to pay 30-50$ for a nicer dine in meal (in general restaurants here serve up better food than the same type in Canada). Expect to pay 100$ a night for a small hotel room close to centrum, and by small i mean small.). So it is pricey here, but just be glad it is not in Norway, unless you are making Norwegian money, Norway is crazy expensive.


Anyways do it! The Swedes are awesome people, while a little shy and quiet to start they quickly open up after a bit of talking (or a few drinks), just make them feel that their english really good (which it is , they just need to hear it). Don't act like a North American idiot on spring break and you will make friends quickly. They are knowledgable and passionate about hockey, just make sure you like at least a few Swedish players They have some really good Swedish food if ya want...reindeer, cloudberries, hardbread and caviar and every kind of cheese in a tube you could want (from bacon cheese to shrimp cheese),and max burger for your fast food cravings is a nice time (compared to bk and mc`ds). It will be Christmas and if you are lucky some will invite you over for gingerbread with blue cheese and glogg. You get to celebrate chirstmas a day early, and everyone here thinks the rest of the world does that and North americans are weird for celebrating a day late (while the opposite is true). You will learn drinking songs, christmas songs and in general the Swedes like singing when they party or on any holiday (not only when they talk )


And yes, Swedish girls are very cute, carry themselves well, speak english very well and think a Canadian accent is adorable (guess why I live here now with mig honung ...I know you dont say that Swedes, but a little Canadian swenglish does wonders)...just to try to out fancy the Swedish guys, they take care of themselves at least as well as the girls if not more.

thats what I got for ya.

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It's usually only hillbillies, semi-retards, and perhaps 13-16 year olds that actually believe that they are superior, just becuase they live in a certain place. Joking around a bit just for fun is another thing, though. I really hope that most people that pick on other peoples accent and wereabouts do that in jest and not seriously.

I live close to Stockholm. If I would go watch the WJC next year I would stay in Malmö as it would be cheaper, because of the train fees. Might take a day trip to Copenhagen to see how it's like there though.

Celebrating christmas on christmas eve is awsome, since it gives us Swedes a three day hollyday (christmas-eve,-day, -"second" day). Plus we're getting our presents earlier than you NA-canos

Guys from english speaking countries are popular among girls here in Sweden, I've noticed. I dont know what it is, maybe they (the women) think they'll get a shoe in to Hollywood if the hook up with someone like that.

Speaking of fast food, MAX is loved by many, but not by me if find the burgers a bit to "greasy", so I prefer BK, though the "imami" burger at MAX is both delicious and greasy.


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Having spent the better part of the last two years in Sweden, I find it pretty interesting how much rivalry there is between cities/areas of Sweden. A city from the north makes fun of each different area in the south in a different way, Malmo versus Stockholm versus Goteborg (and vice versa south to north).... and not only that within the area (say Norrland) they make fun of the people from different communites relatively close by. Like saying the people from a town 10km away talk funny, (it is interesting to have so many different accents in a small area (Sweden) compared to Canada.....it would be like having 20 fairly different accents all in Manitoba).

In Canada people get on eachother about where you live or are from but in general it is not that bad and lots of the time based on a sports team rivalry (other than francophone/anglophone issues which can get real heated)...Rivalries and badmouthing do exist for sure but I do not notice it as much. In general, people seems a little more appreciative of the other areas of Canada, not that Swedes aren`t , I just notice the rivalry a bit more.This could be just me, being new here,being more aware and the people trying to educate me about Sweden promote their areas a little more.


Anyways....I really like Malmo and area (and stockholm and lulea and goteborg). It is not unsafe (even in 'sketchy' areas and at night). Though maybe it is for a Swede, but I have a feeling a lot of this is based on Swedish rivalry. The city itself is pretty charming, the centrum pretty classic european style with fun nightlife and friendly people. It is close to Copenhagen, so time there is a must, one of my favourites in Scandanavia, but do not discount time in malmo as well (plus 20 euro a day on trains does add up if you were to stay in cph).

Things are generally more expensive here than north america. About 7-10 dollars for a beer in a bar, ....cheaper in cph, only slightly more expensive than Canada for grocery store/liquor store...though beware in Sweden you can only get 3.5% beer when system bolaget is not open (most of the time ), in cph cold 4-5% beers anytime/anywhere. Food relatively the same, more pricey, kebab/burger-fast food is about 7-10$ a meal. Easy to pay 30-50$ for a nicer dine in meal (in general restaurants here serve up better food than the same type in Canada). Expect to pay 100$ a night for a small hotel room close to centrum, and by small i mean small.). So it is pricey here, but just be glad it is not in Norway, unless you are making Norwegian money, Norway is crazy expensive.


Anyways do it! The Swedes are awesome people, while a little shy and quiet to start they quickly open up after a bit of talking (or a few drinks), just make them feel that their english really good (which it is , they just need to hear it). Don't act like a North American idiot on spring break and you will make friends quickly. They are knowledgable and passionate about hockey, just make sure you like at least a few Swedish players They have some really good Swedish food if ya want...reindeer, cloudberries, hardbread and caviar and every kind of cheese in a tube you could want (from bacon cheese to shrimp cheese),and max burger for your fast food cravings is a nice time (compared to bk and mc`ds). It will be Christmas and if you are lucky some will invite you over for gingerbread with blue cheese and glogg. You get to celebrate chirstmas a day early, and everyone here thinks the rest of the world does that and North americans are weird for celebrating a day late (while the opposite is true). You will learn drinking songs, christmas songs and in general the Swedes like singing when they party or on any holiday (not only when they talk )


And yes, Swedish girls are very cute, carry themselves well, speak english very well and think a Canadian accent is adorable (guess why I live here now with mig honung ...I know you dont say that Swedes, but a little Canadian swenglish does wonders)...just to try to out fancy the Swedish guys, they take care of themselves at least as well as the girls if not more.

thats what I got for ya.

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Finally a post with some decency in it. I wouldn't say we have that many rivalries in Sweden though, maybe in the hooligan crowds, but for just a regular canadian supporter visiting, it shouldn't be a problem at all. I mean, Canadian patriotism is probably one of the worst things I know of, speaking of international traits, but that's me, and even so, I'd just mutter at someone like that.

What everyone is talking about here is that Malmö is slightly infamous for the segregation there, but it's not *that* bad. The violence is done between gangs or whatever, and I've always found there to be plenty of police officers in public areas during the night anyway, so I don't know what kind of areas these people visit.

Hope you have a nice time, anyway, I'm hoping to be there for a couple of games myself!

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Pretty confident noone heading over there is going to be doing anything but what is in this video....and I didn't see the part about crime yet...

Hell looks a TON more interesting than anywhere in Canada I've seen.


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Pretty confident noone heading over there is going to be doing anything but what is in this video....and I didn't see the part about crime yet...

Hell looks a TON more interesting than anywhere in Canada I've seen.
That ultra cheesy video is closer to the truth than the picture some of the more obvious xenophobes on here paint about violence, crime and muslims.

And that's saying something as I doubt you'll see a lot of people doing cartwheels...

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Pretty confident noone heading over there is going to be doing anything but what is in this video....and I didn't see the part about crime yet...

Hell looks a TON more interesting than anywhere in Canada I've seen.
and I thought there'd be snow there, then I realized Malmo is in SOUTHERN Sweden. Oh well I'll bring my bathing suit. Rather hang out by the beach than ski anyway.

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and I thought there'd be snow there, then I realized Malmo is in SOUTHERN Sweden. Oh well I'll bring my bathing suit. Rather hang out by the beach than ski anyway.
Don't worry, in December/January there is either snow or rain.

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Wow this thread turned to bad quickly, people seriously think they should be afraid to visit Malmö?

However, Malmö was a poor choice because it's a dull city with no hockey culture, and only one good arena. The only thing Malmö excels at is superb infrastructure. I'm afraid next years WJC will be a snoozefest with empty seats all around.

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Dull yes but so is Gothenburg.

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