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01-01-2013, 03:32 PM
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Not only is Andy Reid not taking a year off, sounds like he's going to be the first one with a new job

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01-01-2013, 04:28 PM
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I interpret that as McD refusing to interview right now and rather concentrate on the rest of the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see him interview with a few places after their season ends.

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01-01-2013, 04:37 PM
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Damn. I was hoping those Lombardi/McHoodie rumours we true. I was looking forward to watching those two run some poor team into the ground. Or in some cases (Browns/Chiefs), even further into the ground.

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01-01-2013, 05:20 PM
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Not only is Andy Reid not taking a year off, sounds like he's going to be the first one with a new job
Yup, apparently with the Cardinals

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01-01-2013, 05:23 PM
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A bit surprised Lovie got sacked most likely because GB could not beat the Vikings, but the bottom line is 1 playoff berth in 6 years with that defence is pretty poor.

Not sure what Whisenhunt was supposed to do with that horrific O-line+QB situation.
I believe I read in his tenure with the Bears he only won about 20 games against opponents with a winning record.

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01-01-2013, 06:16 PM
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I believe I read in his tenure with the Bears he only won about 20 games against opponents with a winning record.
probably, only beat two this year in the Colts and Vikings.

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01-01-2013, 06:19 PM
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probably, only beat two this year in the Colts and Vikings.
and I dont even think the colts were even 500 when the bears beat them

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01-01-2013, 06:26 PM
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and I dont even think the colts were even 500 when the bears beat them
they werent, it was the first game of the year. I think the stat was they finished the season with a record over .500.

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01-01-2013, 06:34 PM
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I believe I read in his tenure with the Bears he only won about 20 games against opponents with a winning record.
I always thought he was a decent coach. Winning 10 games is impressive when your franchise QB's stats are almost identical to Christian Ponder's stats.

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01-01-2013, 06:44 PM
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I always thought he was a decent coach. Winning 10 games is impressive when your franchise QB's stats are almost identical to Christian Ponder's stats.
I think he is a good coach too, he got to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. Him just only making the playoffs 3 times in 9 years is what did him in.

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01-01-2013, 06:52 PM
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I always thought he was a decent coach. Winning 10 games is impressive when your franchise QB's stats are almost identical to Christian Ponder's stats.
To bad the Bears franchise QB doesn't play behind Ponder's better line , Have a TE like Rudolph and face 1 on 1 matchups in WR game

Oh and Bears franchise QB doesn't have AP

Also Cutler makes Bears offense function ,, Without him Lovie would have been fired a while ago

Bears QB play when Cutler is out these past 3 years

2-6 record
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01-01-2013, 06:55 PM
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I think he is a good coach too, he got to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. Him just only making the playoffs 3 times in 9 years is what did him in.
True. It was probably his time to go but he should get another job soon. There's a reason why four teams wanted to schedule an interview with him a couple hours after he was fired.

Also, that Cutler/Ponder comparison was a joke. Their stats are very similar but Cutler is clearly the better QB when you watch them play. However, he was not good this season and that played a role in Lovie getting fired.

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01-01-2013, 06:59 PM
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True. It was probably his time to go but he should get another job soon. There's a reason why four teams wanted to schedule an interview with him a couple hours after he was fired.

Also, that Cutler/Ponder comparison was a joke. Their stats are very similar but Cutler is clearly the better QB when you watch them play. However, he was not good this season and that played a role in Lovie getting fired.
Cutler was 10-5 as starter and the biggest loss of season was game in which Lovie's defense allowed Russell Wilson to embarrass them with 97 yd drive td with about 3 minutes left (Then got torched in OT)

Cutler regressed but with no OL , TE and Jeffrey/Bennett injured most of year that was not surprise

And honestly Lovie should have been fired after 06 ,, His blind loyalty to Rex Grossman cost the Bears a SB

Rex should have been benched after his comments week 17 and Griese should have been guy in playoffs


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Cutler was 10-5 as starter and the biggest loss of season was game in which Lovie's defense allowed Russell Wilson to embarrass them with 97 yd drive to with about 3 minutes left (Then got torched in OT)

Cutler regressed but with no OL or TE's that was not surprise
You're going to bring up Cutler's 10-5 record as a starter and then blame Lovie's defense for the "biggest loss of the season"? Cutler was a mess all season and Lovie's defense was the reason why the team was winning.

Again, it was probably time for Lovie to go but if the offense stepped up when they needed it, the Bears would be in the playoffs right now.

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Cutler was 10-5 as starter and the biggest loss of season was game in which Lovie's defense allowed Russell Wilson to embarrass them with 97 yd drive to with about 3 minutes left (Then got torched in OT)

Cutler regressed but with no OL , TE and Jeffrey/Bennett injured most of year that was not surprise

And honestly Lovie should have been fired after 06 ,, His blind loyalty to Rex Grossman cost the Bears a SB

Rex should have been benched after his comments week 17 and Griese should have been guy in playoffs
You cannot say that if Orton played that game they win. Would they have had a better chance, probably. But it isnt a guarantee they win that game if Orton played. Nobody is going to get fired after a Super Bowl appearance unless there is something going on behind the scenes.

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01-01-2013, 07:14 PM
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You're going to bring up Cutler's 10-5 record as a starter and then blame Lovie's defense for the "biggest loss of the season"? Cutler was a mess all season and Lovie's defense was the reason why the team was winning.

Again, it was probably time for Lovie to go but if the offense stepped up when they needed it, the Bears would be in the playoffs right now.
Lovie's defense choked in game that turned out to be turning point of season... There was no excuse for that joke finish vs Seahawks

Infact Cutler/Marshall are only reason that game went to OT as well

That loss sealed the Bears fate

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You cannot say that if Orton played that game they win. Would they have had a better chance, probably. But it isnt a guarantee they win that game if Orton played. Nobody is going to get fired after a Super Bowl appearance unless there is something going on behind the scenes.
No Griese should have played

And the Bears D played best you could hope for vs Peyton Manning.. Bent but didn't break

Gave up alot of yds between 20's but held in redzone

Bears D held the Colts to 2 TD's and 4 FG's ,, Grossman until final drive of game had less then 100 yds passing and several INT's and fumbles (1 INT returned for TD)

Bears just needed a little offense that game to win and Grossman didn't give them that

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01-01-2013, 07:35 PM
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Griese didn't even start a game that year. How are you going to bring him in to start the Super Bowl? Grossman was the devil they knew. There wasn't a choice there.

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Griese should have been given starts in year

Grossman had 5 games of 3 or more INT's that year for peat sakes

For comparision Cutler has had 6 games of 3 or more INT"s in 4 years as a Bear

The failure to pull Rex and start Griese at various points of year was 100% failure on Lovie's part not to mention after the comments Rex made following wk 17 game vs Packers he should have lost his job

Bears had bye that year and Griese would have had 2 weeks of preperation for starting Seahawks Div game

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Lovie's defense choked in game that turned out to be turning point of season... There was no excuse for that joke finish vs Seahawks

Infact Cutler/Marshall are only reason that game went to OT as well

That loss sealed the Bears fate
The defense creating turnovers, scoring TDs, and putting the offense in a position to score easy TDs is the only reason the Bears were competitive this season. I can't believe you're blaming the defense and picking the fourth quarter and overtime of a week 13 game as the turning point of the season.

The loss the following week to the Vikings was a bigger loss than the one against the Seahawks.

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The defense creating turnovers, scoring TDs, and putting the offense in a position to score easy TDs is the only reason the Bears were competitive this season. I can't believe you're blaming the defense and picking the fourth quarter and overtime of a week 13 game as the turning point of the season.

The loss the following week to the Vikings was a bigger loss than the one against the Seahawks.
Win vs Seahawks and Bears are in (True vs Vikes as well)

There is never an excuse for your defense to give up a 97 yd TD drive to a rookie in final minutes of game

Lovie's defense is notorious for terrible prevent finishes ,, Many times in Lovie's career in Chicago his vaunted D allowed back breaking scoring finishes to lose games

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If this was the only year the offense weighed down the Bears' chances, I could buy the argument, but how many years has the Bears' O ever been good under Lovie? He's never been able to put together a consistently good offense, and he deserves to be fired for it. wish him luck wherever he ends up, though. He seemed like a nice enough guy.

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If this was the only year the offense weighed down the Bears' chances, I could buy the argument, but how many years has the Bears' O ever been good under Lovie? He's never been able to put together a consistently good offense, and he deserves to be fired for it. wish him luck wherever he ends up, though. He seemed like a nice enough guy.
He could never get an offensive coordinator to stay or work with him. The offense is a mess. They might as well trade Cutler and start over again.

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If Reid does in fact go to Arizona Kolb will probably be a good fantasy QB next year in his system, but I still don't see him becoming much better for NFL standards.

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He could never get an offensive coordinator to stay or work with him. The offense is a mess. They might as well trade Cutler and start over again.
Lovie had 4 OC's in his career with Chicago

Terry Shea 2004 = Lovie's choice ,, Absolute failure and relieved of job after 1 yr

Ron Turner 2005-09 = Lovie's buddy who was brought back to NFL after being fired by Illinois... Only 1 of his offenses wasn't bottom 3rd of league (2006 ,, It was average mid ranked)

Mike Martz 2010-11 = Lovie's BFF ,, Hired at moment that Lovie was facing termination if no results.. Martz got Cutler killed and alienated several players (Olsen especially) with his attitude

Mike Tice 2012 = Another of Lovie's friends ,, Guy sucks as OL coach and was just as bad as OC

Lovie hand picked all 4 of his OC's ,, He simply didn't understand how offense works and his hires all were miserable failures


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Rams fired Blake Williams (LB coach) and announced Gregg Williams will not be brought back as defensive coordinator.

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