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Highest Potential: RNH vs Tavares vs Landeskog vs Hall

View Poll Results: Who has the highest potential
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 83 18.99%
John Tavares 323 73.91%
Gabriel Landeskog 19 4.35%
Taylor Hall 12 2.75%
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01-01-2013, 12:16 AM
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Lmao,

97-98 Jagr ANIEC
05-06 Thornton/Jagr ANIEC
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You're funny.
Your responding to a guy who said he'd take Schnieder, Hamphuis and Edler over Malkin and Crosby because high scoring 1 dimensional players aren't what's important in hockey.

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01-01-2013, 02:10 AM
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Tavares

RNH
Landeskog

Hall

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01-01-2013, 02:11 AM
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I went with Tavares, but RNH is definately a valid option. All 4 of them are really. 3 1st overalls and a 2nd overall.. Very high potential in all of them. I personally fell that Landeskog and Hall will be the PPG, captain, dynamic goal scoring types while Tavares and RNH will be big point producing superstar playmakers.

Tavares' vision is just too good to pass up though.. He's also been steadily improving and I see a big season for him post-lockout.
PPG isn't big point producing?

And I've always thought of Tavares more as a goal scorer than a playmaker (although he's elite at both).

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01-01-2013, 02:19 AM
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PPG isn't big point producing?

And I've always thought of Tavares more as a goal scorer than a playmaker (although he's elite at both).
I always thought he was going to be a goal scorer type coming out of jrs.

However I wouldn't call a 1 time 30 goal scorer who's highest finish is 20th in the league an "elite" goal scorer. I could name at least 10 guys better in that category.

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01-01-2013, 02:26 AM
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I always thought he was going to be a goal scorer type coming out of jrs.

However I wouldn't call a 1 time 30 goal scorer who's highest finish is 20th in the league an "elite" goal scorer. I could name at least 10 guys better in that category.
Stats don't even begin to tell the whole story for Tavares.

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01-01-2013, 02:54 AM
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Stats don't even begin to tell the whole story for Tavares.
Tell us more how he has "no one to play with".

He's a great player but he's not the second coming of Jesus.

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Tell us more how he has "no one to play with".

He's a great player but he's not the second coming of Jesus.
PAP and Moulson are good players. Both would probably be top 6 players without Tavares, but PAP wouldn't put up 70 points and Moulson wouldn't be a 35 goal scorer.

Give Tavares a year or two if you have to have that elite production to consider him up there with Stamkos, Giroux, etc.

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Stats don't even begin to tell the whole story for Tavares.
So Tavares is so good he doesn't need to score goals to be called an elite goal scorer gotcha.

Next up, Tavares-Art Ross winner without being top-10 in points.

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So Tavares is so good he doesn't need to score goals to be called an elite goal scorer gotcha.

Next up, Tavares-Art Ross winner without being top-10 in points.
Nice assumption. That's not what I meant at all.

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So Tavares is so good he doesn't need to score goals to be called an elite goal scorer gotcha.

Next up, Tavares-Art Ross winner without being top-10 in points.
well he was 8th in points last year

so that's like....2 art rosses right?

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Lmao,

97-98 Jagr ANIEC
05-06 Thornton/Jagr ANIEC
04 St.Louis.

You're funny.
Jagr was not better than Federov and Yzerman. If he was he would of gotten out of the first round of the playoffs.

I think 06 is really close between Thornton, Jagr and RBA

In 04 I would probable agree St Louis was the best forward but Iginla was a very close second who you could make an argument for.


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01-01-2013, 12:16 PM
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tavares. weve already seen some of the things hes capable of. imagine when he hits his prime

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Stats don't even begin to tell the whole story for Tavares.
It's true. You really need to watch Tavares to realize just how great of a player he is, truly a gamebreaker. The best part? He is just getting better and better, every off season he comes back with a vastly improved part of his game ala Crosby. 100+ point seasons are not very far away from JT, but unfortunately he has not been given a great supporting cast yet in his career. Give JT one Winger that is even close to as talented as he is and he'd probably surpass Stamkos as the 3rd best forward in the game IMO.

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01-01-2013, 12:41 PM
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Tavares
RNH
Landeskog
Hall

That said though, I wouldn't be shocked if Landeskog ends up the best of the bunch, the kid could easily become a perennial 35+ goal scorer, a PPG player and a guy who can take over in all three zones. Still RNH and JT's pure upside is higher on the offensive end.

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Its so annoying when people downplay PAP and Moulson to pump Tavares' tires. Then when we talk about them seperately they are suddenly "top sixers on any team". Seriously, choose one.

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I'm taking Tavares on this one.

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Its so annoying when people downplay PAP and Moulson to pump Tavares' tires. Then when we talk about them seperately they are suddenly "top sixers on any team". Seriously, choose one.
well they are at least 2nd liners on any tam now that they have gotten the expince of playing with jt, but i doubt PaP puts up another 67 point season unless he plays with an elite center, and moulson probably won't put up close to 35 goals either but they would probably still be 50+ point/ 25+ goal scorers in any teams top 6

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Can't comment - I don't watch enough Tavares to say he's better than RNH, Hall, Landeskog (or worse!). But I do watch the other three. (And for the record, I think Tavares is. Didn't they change the rules in the OHL for this guy? He's got insane potential)

RNH > Hall > Landeskog.
Not a knock on Landeskog. I also happen to be an Oilers fan, so I'm probably biased. But all four are spectacular.

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Tavares is the obvious winner.

After that though, I have to go off the board and say Hall is next in line for highest potential.

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RNH and it's not particularly close for me.

The next Joe Thornton offensively.

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Kind of a side note, but do you guys think he'll leave as a free agent?

Kinda like the Rick Nash thing, after a while, being on a crap team will get to him i'd think. Although it's early to judge.

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Its so annoying when people downplay PAP and Moulson to pump Tavares' tires. Then when we talk about them seperately they are suddenly "top sixers on any team". Seriously, choose one.
Who's PAP?

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Its so annoying when people downplay PAP and Moulson to pump Tavares' tires. Then when we talk about them seperately they are suddenly "top sixers on any team". Seriously, choose one.
Moulson is probably a top sixer on any team, but I have trouble believing that PAP would be.

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Tavares pretty easily for me. RNH might be just as good though.

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