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Am I the only one who would take a healthy Palffy over a healthy Mogilny?

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Pallfy 30 33.33%
Almo 60 66.67%
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12-30-2012, 08:39 PM
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I would talk a healthy Palffy over Mogilny unless it was a contract year for Mogilny.

Mogilny had a sick amount of talent and was a joy to watch but he just took too much time off.

Later in his career he seemed to appreciate things more but by then his hip was slowing him down.

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12-30-2012, 10:50 PM
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Palffy: seventieslord
Mogilny: CYM, Big Phil

Esposito: Big Phil
Messier: CYM, seventieslord

Dionne: Big Phil, seventieslord
Selanne: CYM

At least they can't accuse us of collusion.

These are some tough polls to be sure. I might be most confident of Messier over Espo, and that's no certainty either. In fact, if you'd asked me 5 years ago, I'm almost certain I would have taken Espo over Messier.

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12-31-2012, 05:03 PM
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Palffy: seventieslord
Mogilny: CYM, Big Phil

Esposito: Big Phil
Messier: CYM, seventieslord

Dionne: Big Phil, seventieslord
Selanne: CYM

I think a poll where we agree should be locked sent to Ripley's.

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12-31-2012, 09:10 PM
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I remember Slovakia at the Olympics and seeing Ziggy Palffy and being like "Da ****? He's STILL playing?"

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Mogilny was definitely inconsistent but when he was on his game he was unstoppable. His peak (76G, 55G) was far superior to Palffy's, not just his longer career.
That's not fair. They have the exact same career PPG by the way why may be the reason the OP started this poll. But Mogilny played before the dead puck era as well and it is here we find his fabulous 76-goal campaign, during that strange 1992-93 season scoringwise. What i'm trying to say that Mogilys peak was'nt nearly as much better than Palffy as some people tries it out to be. As a matter of fact it's almost a wash adjusted, and Almo played with Lafontaine and Andreychuk that best season.

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01-01-2013, 10:27 PM
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I remember Slovakia at the Olympics and seeing Ziggy Palffy and being like "Da ****? He's STILL playing?"
For some reason he just goes on and on dominating the slovakian league of all unwholy places.

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01-01-2013, 10:31 PM
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That's exactly why I take Palffy. Mogilny was only a star a small portion of the time.
he and mats were deadly on the PP together

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01-01-2013, 11:42 PM
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Starting goalies whom Mogilny played in front of...

Puppa
Fuhr
Hasek
K.McLean
Irbe
Snow
F.Potvin
Brodeur
Cu.Joseph
Belfour

Elite skaters (having at least one post season All-Star Team selection or individual award) Mogilny skated alongside...

Hawerchuk (319 games)
Andreychuk (258 games)
Mar.Naslund (249 games)
Sundin (199 games)
Lafontaine (186 games)
Elias (169 games)
M.Messier (157 games)
P.Turgeon (145 games)
S.Stevens (135 games)
P.Bure (129 games)
S.Niedermayer (112 games)
Housley (73 games)
McCabe (50 games)
Bertuzzi (47 games)
Nieuwendyk (46 games)
C.Lemieux (35 games)
Leetch (28 games)
Francis (24 games)

Starting goalies whom Palffy played in front of...

R.Hextall
Soderstrom
Salo
Fiset
Storr
F.Potvin
Cechmanek
M.A.Fleury

Elite skaters Palffy skated alongside...

L.Robitaille (189 games)
R.Blake (122 games)
Crosby (42 games)
Recchi (42 games)
Leclair (42 games)
Gonchar (42 games)
P.Turgeon (38 games)
M.Lemieux (26 games)

Gee, I can't imagine why Palffy didn't have more team success, more playoff games played and a Stanley Cup like Mogilny.
How did this post get no reaction?

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01-02-2013, 12:38 AM
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The one thing I'll add to this is that IMO Alex Mogilny is one of the most under-rated defensive players ever.

His hockey sense and positioning were absolutely off the charts - best player I've ever seen on the forecheck at anticipating the passing lane a defender would look to use and closing it up and either tipping the pass or forcing the play to a low percentage option. Absolutely superior hockey intellect.

It's a shame his 1996-2000 seasons were such a complete and utter write-off due to the horrific state of the Canuck franchise and the impossibly bad linemates he was usually stuck with, as well as his own injury issues.

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01-02-2013, 09:43 PM
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How did this post get no reaction?
I thought it was a good point.

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A Mogilny with his head screwed on straight>Palffy, not close IMO.
That's the problem. Who would you count on to be more reliable?

Mogilny from year to year you didn't know what you were going to get. You could get one of the most talented players the game has ever seen, or you could get this lazy shell of an enigmatic superstar in which we saw for about half of his career.

On talent, Mogilny wins the battle but in terms of production, consistency, reliability and better overall play, considering linemates and teammates, Palffy wins by a landslide.

As a Rangers fan, I've watched A LOT of Islanders hockey over the years considering that they're in my market and I got to see Ziggy in his prime. He was ridiculous, playing with crap like Travis Green, who road Palffy's coattails to the 2 best seasons of his career.

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The one thing I'll add to this is that IMO Alex Mogilny is one of the most under-rated defensive players ever.

His hockey sense and positioning were absolutely off the charts - best player I've ever seen on the forecheck at anticipating the passing lane a defender would look to use and closing it up and either tipping the pass or forcing the play to a low percentage option. Absolutely superior hockey intellect.

It's a shame his 1996-2000 seasons were such a complete and utter write-off due to the horrific state of the Canuck franchise and the impossibly bad linemates he was usually stuck with, as well as his own injury issues.
He must have either lost his desire to play D before he went to the Devils, or maybe the Devils had so many forwards who were developed to be two-way players in New Jersey, that he looked poor by comparison.

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