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01-02-2013, 09:17 AM
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Look at that, the line with real hockey players does what the line with the ballet dancer can't do: score a goal.

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01-02-2013, 09:21 AM
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Yakupov should be in the NBA with all of his "please god get me to the foul line" 1-on-4 off balance drives to the net.

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01-02-2013, 09:22 AM
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Grigs makes everyone around him better. That's such a valuable asset. He always makes a creative, smart play.

Yakupov is the complete opposite.

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01-02-2013, 09:24 AM
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Grigorenko and Kucherov get the start on the PP. Hard choice, eh coach?
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Anton Slepyshev... good size, good hands, still not drafted by anyone. Hmmm....
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Big draw win by Grigorenko.

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Grigs still needs a ton of work on his faceoffs.

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01-02-2013, 09:35 AM
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Grigorenko has been great at takeaways this game

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01-02-2013, 09:38 AM
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Grigorenko and Kucherov get the start on the PP. Hard choice, eh coach?
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Anton Slepyshev... good size, good hands, still not drafted by anyone. Hmmm....
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Big draw win by Grigorenko.
Was shocked when no one drafted Slepyshev last year. Kid's got some skills and even if he wants to stay in the KHL what does it hurt to use a late pick on him just in case. In some mock drafts last year he was seen as a late first round pick.

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01-02-2013, 09:50 AM
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Grigs is player of the game for Russia!

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01-02-2013, 09:57 AM
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Grigorenko and Kucherov get the start on the PP. Hard choice, eh coach?
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Anton Slepyshev... good size, good hands, still not drafted by anyone. Hmmm....
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Big draw win by Grigorenko.
Yeah, once we drafted Grigs, I was hoping we'd just say **** it, and draft Gusev and Slepyshev. I started rooting for that around the 4th round.

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Was shocked when no one drafted Slepyshev last year. Kid's got some skills and even if he wants to stay in the KHL what does it hurt to use a late pick on him just in case. In some mock drafts last year he was seen as a late first round pick.
Pronman had him as a 1st round talent in his draft rankings.

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Grigs still needs a ton of work on his faceoffs.
Well, he was often compared to Malkin during his draft year, and Geno is horribad at faceoffs, too.

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01-02-2013, 09:58 AM
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Grigorenko involved in another golden chance but it won't count.

He has been fantastic during this tournament and has even cut out his backhanded passes to nowhere.
If he can find this intensity more often, he's good to go.
Can he really keep this intensity playing in the QMJHL though? I am starting to think NHL is the better option at this point then the QMJHL.

Seems like he is playing a very pro style game already and you have to think he at least gets a look.


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01-02-2013, 10:00 AM
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Grigorenko was tremendous today.

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01-02-2013, 10:02 AM
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I've actually seen Grigorenko listed as a "disappointment" by some people, those who clearly haven't watched any of the game. He has been snakebitten but he's been generating chances like nobodies business (along with his linemates).
Probably by habs fans or some others why dont know the game and just look at stats.

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01-02-2013, 10:08 AM
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Probably by habs fans or some others why dont know the game and just look at stats.
I just took a gander through that thread, so I'll summarize:

"Galchenyuk is leading the US in points after the round-robin, how can he be disappointing?!?"

(Uh, because outside of the games against relegation teams, he was not visible for most of the tournament--it doesn't mean he's going to be a bad NHL player.)

"Yakupov is leading the Russians in points, he's not a disappointment at all!"

At that point, you knew the types you were dealing with, and it was better to just move on.

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01-02-2013, 10:13 AM
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Man, Grigs was awesome today. Really good to see that his coaches have such confidence in him too, it seemed like he was out there every other shift in OT - and they also used him twice in the shootout (went first, didn't score, went again fourth, scored a really pretty one).

First time in a while they don't have any Canadians, but otherwise Buffalo is really well represented in this tourney. Especially when considering Girgensons would be Latvia's best player if the Sabres released him... exciting times.

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01-02-2013, 10:13 AM
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Grigorenko made me finally register after being along time lurker.

Great game by Grigs. Can't wait to see him dominate on the Sabres.

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01-02-2013, 10:16 AM
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I just took a gander through that thread, so I'll summarize:

"Galchenyuk is leading the US in points after the round-robin, how can he be disappointing?!?"

(Uh, because outside of the games against relegation teams, he was not visible for most of the tournament--it doesn't mean he's going to be a bad NHL player.)

"Yakupov is leading the Russians in points, he's not a disappointment at all!"

At that point, you knew the types you were dealing with, and it was better to just move on.
A Habs fan tweeted Pronman that Galchenyuk has clearly been better this tournament then Grigorenko, his reasoning was Galchenyuk leads the states in points and Grigorenko is on Russia's second line... :

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01-02-2013, 10:22 AM
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A Habs fan tweeted Pronman that Galchenyuk has clearly been better this tournament then Grigorenko, his reasoning was Galchenyuk leads the states in points and Grigorenko is on Russia's second line... :
I saw that tweet, as well. And his logic was actually that Galchenyuk leads the US in points while playing on the 2nd line (ignoring that Grigorenko, for most of the tourney, has technically been on Russia's 2nd line, even if it has been better than the Koko-Yakupov line).

I don't see this created rivalry dying down anytime soon, either, and it'll only get worse when they start playing each other six times per season.

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01-02-2013, 10:25 AM
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So what do we offer Tampa Bay to acquire Kucherov to play with Grigorenko? They used a late 2nd on him in 2011.

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01-02-2013, 10:30 AM
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Grigorenko made me finally register after being along time lurker.

Great game by Grigs. Can't wait to see him dominate on the Sabres.
There are 110,000 users on this forum. How was that name not taken? In any case welcome aboard!

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01-02-2013, 10:40 AM
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Grigs has played very solidly with good positioning, great vision and distribution of the puck. I really like McCabe-surprised actually. He is a very smart player with good gap control, good strength and great up tempo outlet passes. Makarov has played well although the chintzy 3rd goal on that junior B wrap around took the wind out of the Russian sails against the Canucks. Armia seems great then disappears from what I have read--but I have not seen much of Finland. All in all good drafting by Sabres--now a beast on D or a pure sniper with great speed....

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01-02-2013, 11:09 AM
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So what do we offer Tampa Bay to acquire Kucherov to play with Grigorenko? They used a late 2nd on him in 2011.
I heard Tampa Bay covets Ville Leino.

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Very pleased with how McCabe responded to the "C" and getting many of the tough d-zone minutes. My admiration for his overall game continues to grow.

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Very pleased with how McCabe responded to the "C" and getting many of the tough d-zone minutes. My admiration for his overall game continues to grow.
Agreed. He was given Yakupov's line--then thought to be Russia's top line--and the RNH line, IIRC. I thought he performed very well against both. He's a smart player, and has a nice game in all three zones, which reminds me of Pysyk (different tools, though).

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What's the biggest difference between McCabe and Pysyk? I've perceived both as positionally sound guys who relied on their skating + IQ advantages and were more willing to take hits to make plays than say Bouwmeester/Tallinder at their worst?

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Agreed. He was given Yakupov's line--then thought to be Russia's top line--and the RNH line, IIRC. I thought he performed very well against both. He's a smart player, and has a nice game in all three zones, which reminds me of Pysyk (different tools, though).
Yeah, good feet, good head, all-purpose sort of guy who could be a valued 2nd pairing sort.

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