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01-02-2013, 05:55 PM
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Well originally I was joking by mentioning Campoli, but really...he would be a servicable 6/7 imo.

He could provide insurance if Weir isnt ready for the bigs, he could play pk2, pp2, and hes probably better than Lundin (though I dont know much about Mike) or he could at least rotate in and out with Lundin. Hell, I know he supposebly played bad for Montreal, but I always thought he was a scapegoat when he was here and played better than people remember.

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01-02-2013, 06:31 PM
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Methot-Karlsson
Gonchar-Lundin
Phillips-Wiercioch

Can be a very serviceable defenisve corps AS LONG AS Gonchar and Phillips don't play as horrific as they did to start the year last year. If it doesn't though, my God it looks atrocious and we have to pray Anderson bails us out almost every game. Offense looks set, imo.

Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek
Silfverberg-Turris-Alfredsson

is a deep top 6.

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01-02-2013, 06:33 PM
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1. Trade Alfie to the Wings.
2. Draft Jonathan Drouin.

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01-02-2013, 06:42 PM
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1. Trade Alfie to the Wings.
2. Draft Jonathan Drouin.
you come up with the best ideas.

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01-02-2013, 06:42 PM
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With Cowen out of the lineup and an AHLer in Wiercoch or Benoit likely to replace his spot... I think Karlsson will see a lot of PK time. I predict a lot more shorthanded chances created for the Sens and a lot more SH goals. Plus an end to the criticism of Karlsson for not playing PK minutes.

Karlsson is so young and is having a monster month in Finland just in time for the NHL season to start soon I hope. I could see a 29 or 30 minute a game Karlsson that plays a big role on the PK as well as the PP. Honestly does anyone every remember Karlsson seeming tired on the ice? He is a mule... he goes and goes even if he is thin and young. I would have no problem with Karlsson playing the full 2 minutes of most PPs and playing a huge role on the PK. How else will Karlsson get better on the PK then playing large minutes on the #1 unit? I think he will learn. To be elite on the PK. What has he not got incredibly better at month over month, year over year? He might not have mastered containing big bodies down low... but he is among the best in the NHL with his stick picking pucks away from guys on the boards or anywhere and also breaking up passes. With our likely 2nd or 3rd best defenceman sidelined for the potential short season (fingers crossed) what better time to just let Karlsson play half the game? What better chance do we have to win and what better way to really let him dominate? I am sure he would LOVE playing 29, 30, 31 minutes a game. All the most important minutes.

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01-02-2013, 07:01 PM
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you come up with the best ideas.
We gotta free up the cap space to get Selanne somehow, right?

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01-02-2013, 07:16 PM
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Kuba provided a stable, reliable, veteran presence which acted as a safety-net for Karlsson's flashy game.

You gotta really bend logic to propose that a rookie offensive defenseman would be good in that role....
How do people believe this kind of crap?

Kuba, stable and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Safety net?

He rode EK's coattails all the way to the nice new contract he has. He will be exposed as the charlatan he is soon enough, and those of you with either extremely poor eyesight, or extremely short memories (or both) will hopefully enjoy a nice cup of S.T.F.U.

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01-02-2013, 07:47 PM
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How do people believe this kind of crap?

Kuba, stable and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Safety net?

He rode EK's coattails all the way to the nice new contract he has. He will be exposed as the charlatan he is soon enough, and those of you with either extremely poor eyesight, or extremely short memories (or both) will hopefully enjoy a nice cup of S.T.F.U.
you must only remember injured/just off injury kuba, because last season, he played well in his own end. if kuba was so bad out there all last season, karlsson would have had to be doing all the offense and the defense, which obviously he didn't do. while kuba wasn't great in the offensive zone like he has been in the past last season, saying he as not stable and reliable in his own end is just hating. other than that, i can put those words in a sentence.

due to john holmes' dog house being broken, kuba had to stay in the reliable stable for the night.

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01-02-2013, 11:02 PM
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Silf will probably be the only extra forward starting game 1 whose not on a 1 way deal and on D I agree that it could be Benoit or Wiercioch.

That said whatever lineup we come up with we need to include a couple of changes to cover the unavoidable training camp groin injuries.

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01-02-2013, 11:59 PM
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Silf will probably be the only extra forward starting game 1 whose not on a 1 way deal and on D I agree that it could be Benoit or Wiercioch.

That said whatever lineup we come up with we need to include a couple of changes to cover the unavoidable training camp groin injuries.
We got rid of Butler

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01-03-2013, 01:57 AM
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Oh, man. Our defense is brutal.

I probably shouldn't say this, but I wouldn't mind the Sens being really bad this year. It's a short season so it won't hurt as much, and this draft is amazing.

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01-03-2013, 05:14 AM
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To be honest I wouldn't even mind trading Alfie. I would rather see him win a cup in his lifetime then not. He deserves it. Realistically we won't be very good this year, and we might get a good return. I could see a top 5 pick within our reach.

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01-03-2013, 06:12 AM
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To be honest, you are all out to lunch.

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01-03-2013, 06:29 AM
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To be honest, you are all out to lunch.
This. Alfredsson will be back next year alongside Edler and another huge trade for a piece on O. We will win the cup.

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01-03-2013, 08:18 AM
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How do people believe this kind of crap?

Kuba, stable and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Safety net?

He rode EK's coattails all the way to the nice new contract he has. He will be exposed as the charlatan he is soon enough, and those of you with either extremely poor eyesight, or extremely short memories (or both) will hopefully enjoy a nice cup of S.T.F.U.
Kuba was absolutely terrific in 2011-12. Like scary good. Like I was questioning whether or not it was actually him out there.

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01-03-2013, 08:21 AM
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Kuba was absolutely terrific in 2011-12. Like scary good. Like I was questioning whether or not it was actually him out there.
You know, I understand the point you're trying to make (Kuba had a very fine season), and mostly agree, but using hyperbolic statements like this doesn't help your argument.

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01-03-2013, 08:41 AM
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Now that Silfverberg looks like he's ready to be a good top 6 winger, I wouldn't mind trying something radical like this up front:

Silfverberg-Spezza-Hoffman
Latendresse-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Michalek
Condra-Smith-Neil
O'Brien

Huge IF, but IF that top line meshes we'd have a great group of forwards and lots of scoring depth. It depends on Spezza's ability to carry younger players (did it well with Greening and Butler in 2011) and Silf's ability to play in the NHL from the get-go.

I'd try it in preseason and see if there's any chemestry there.

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01-03-2013, 08:43 AM
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Karlsson wasn't that great last year, Kuba made him the defenceman he is today.










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01-03-2013, 08:52 AM
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You know, I understand the point you're trying to make (Kuba had a very fine season), and mostly agree, but using hyperbolic statements like this doesn't help your argument.
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why does it matter?

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why does it matter?
Because if you exaggerate every post, you lose credibility. No one takes the guy who exaggerates everything seriously. And, for one who overuses exaggeration and hyperbole, they tend to invoke a "boy who cried wolf" reaction in their audience. The more you exaggerate, as it becomes known, the more people will either disbelieve your statement or even outright oppose it, when it might not normally warrant such a reaction.

I'm just lookin' out for you.

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Because if you exaggerate every post, you lose credibility. No one takes the guy who exaggerates everything seriously. And, for one who overuses exaggeration and hyperbole, they tend to invoke a "boy who cried wolf" reaction in their audience. The more you exaggerate, as it becomes known, the more people will either disbelieve your statement or even outright oppose it, when it might not normally warrant such a reaction.

I'm just lookin' out for you.
lol ok.

But I didn't mean he was scary on the ice, I meant he scared me. Yes I scare easily I am a coward

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01-03-2013, 09:47 AM
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lol ok.

But I didn't mean he was scary on the ice, I meant he scared me. Yes I scare easily I am a coward
He's right, you know.

It's like you're trying your best to convince us that what you're saying is the absolute truth, but we all watched the guy, we know. You just sound like the guy who caught a fish that was this_______________________________________ big.

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He's right, you know.

It's like you're trying your best to convince us that what you're saying is the absolute truth, but we all watched the guy, we know. You just sound like the guy who caught a fish that was this_______________________________________ big.
This post is more impressive if I look at it through my tv than my netbook.

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01-03-2013, 10:14 AM
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How do people believe this kind of crap?

Kuba, stable and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Safety net?

He rode EK's coattails all the way to the nice new contract he has. He will be exposed as the charlatan he is soon enough, and those of you with either extremely poor eyesight, or extremely short memories (or both) will hopefully enjoy a nice cup of S.T.F.U.
Did you hit the snooze button and sleep through the entire 2011/2012 season? That's the only way your post can be explained.

You appear to be suggesting that any defenseman in the NHL could be paired with Karlsson, and both players will achieve great things. Karlsson obviously helped Kuba a ton, but their relationship was symbiotic. Outside of an atrocious 2010/2011, where he was injured and appeared out-of-shape, Kuba was a good defenseman for the team.

Regardless, we are in trouble with that defense. Imagine Karlsson got injured for a few games? LOL

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01-03-2013, 10:36 AM
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Now that Silfverberg looks like he's ready to be a good top 6 winger, I wouldn't mind trying something radical like this up front:

Silfverberg-Spezza-Hoffman
Latendresse-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Michalek
Condra-Smith-Neil
O'Brien

Huge IF, but IF that top line meshes we'd have a great group of forwards and lots of scoring depth. It depends on Spezza's ability to carry younger players (did it well with Greening and Butler in 2011) and Silf's ability to play in the NHL from the get-go.

I'd try it in preseason and see if there's any chemestry there.


One of those players does not belong in that lineup! Can anyone tell who it is?
I am getting tired of seeing people put Hoffman on this team. IMO he is not an NHL player, def not top 6! Average AHL player, and a shrimp. Maybe 4th liner, but I would prefer someone with size...Grant or DZ.

Sorry for sticking my nose in as I usually just read and stay quiet....but this burns me!

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