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Why can't CDN fans rally around CDN teams in the Playoffs?

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01-02-2013, 09:23 PM
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I also wonder aloud; is part of the reason some canadians do cheer so hard for other canadian teams is due to the drought- now 20 years since the last one hoisted. When a canadian team finally does win another cup, will other canadians be less likely to cheer for it to be brought back the next year?

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01-02-2013, 09:41 PM
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most people i know in qc want canadian teams to go far in the playoffs...and they want teams with talented quebecers to go far too, ie: tampa bay.


by the way , i don't know anyone outside internet who hates the canucks although it seems to be a trend here to hate them.

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01-02-2013, 09:45 PM
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most people i know in qc want canadian teams to go far in the playoffs...and they want teams with talented quebecers to go far too, ie: tampa bay.


by the way , i don't know anyone outside internet who hates the canucks although it seems to be a trend here to hate them.
It is weird, most of the people I know don't hate the Leafs, they hate the Leaf fans (not all just the ones that are fans to be fans and know nothing of hockey or their team. ie my ex brother in-law)
When it comes to the Canucks, people tend to hate the team. Not the fans.

In the latest THN they listed the public enemy #1 for each team. Your standard ones were there. The Canucks were represented 4 times.

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01-02-2013, 10:01 PM
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most people i know in qc want canadian teams to go far in the playoffs...and they want teams with talented quebecers to go far too, ie: tampa bay.


by the way , i don't know anyone outside internet who hates the canucks although it seems to be a trend here to hate them.
You haven't been in British Columbia during the playoffs. As an Avs fan it's impossible to cheer for Edmonton, Calgary or Vancouver.

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01-02-2013, 10:05 PM
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I may have cheered for other Canadian teams at some point. But the Internet has destroyed that.

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01-02-2013, 10:06 PM
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Why would I care about other Canadian teams? Its Leafs or bust.

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01-02-2013, 10:29 PM
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Bandwagon a team just because they are Canadian just because I am Canadian?

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01-02-2013, 10:30 PM
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I don't care who people cheer for, but the argument "most American teams have Canadians on it" just annoys me. After like 2 years, the average person (not including die-hard hf fans) doesn't remember who was on the team. All they know is who won the cup. So if you're going for the "Cheer Canadian" angle, cheering for the success of a Canadian team in a Canadian city is more important than who plays on it.

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01-02-2013, 11:25 PM
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I used to be a happy guy that cheered for anyone and loved the game, but then I was introduced to the internet...

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01-02-2013, 11:31 PM
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Just dont get why Canadian fans don't like supporting the other teams in the country, while it seems they would rather cheer against them.

We saw this with Vancouver a few years ago. I suspect it would be the same with the Leafs if/when they make it, which is sad since Americans seem to not have any issues with the Leafs.

So whats the deal? Is the rivalry between Canadian teams too intense from all the divisional matches?
Because the NHL isn't a Canada vs US sport. Canadians are the dominant nationality on all teams. And yes, if your rival teams are Canadian teams, I wouldn't see me ever rooting for the rival.

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01-03-2013, 12:04 AM
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Only Canadian team I wouldn't cheer for is Toronto, for reasons that have been repeated many times already.

Oh and Edmonton. Nothing against the team or fans (city sure does suck though). But mainly because my boss is a die hard oilers fan and is living back in the 1980's. :

In reality, I think it's a sibling syndrome type of deal.

We all recognize ourselves as Canadian and we all love the sport of Hockey. But at the same time, nothing says rubbing it into your siblings faces like being able to boast about winning the holy grail of hockey.
That was really necessary for you to toss in there. On behalf of the nearly one million people who live in this city, thanks for that shot. Just curious, how many times have you visited Edmonton?

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Vancouver and Winnipeg I can get behind.

Everyone else can go to hell.


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01-03-2013, 02:09 AM
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Just dont get why Canadian fans don't like supporting the other teams in the country, while it seems they would rather cheer against them.

We saw this with Vancouver a few years ago. I suspect it would be the same with the Leafs if/when they make it, which is sad since Americans seem to not have any issues with the Leafs.

So whats the deal? Is the rivalry between Canadian teams too intense from all the divisional matches?
I would cheer for a team of Nazi Child molesters over any other team in Canada in the playoffs. There is no reason to care about other club teams because they are Canadian.

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01-03-2013, 02:11 AM
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What does the N in NHL stand for again? I am confused.
Currently it stands for "No".

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01-03-2013, 02:13 AM
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Vancouver and Winnipeg I can get behind.

Everyone else can go to hell.
Quebecois - Cascadian bromance.

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It comes down to storylines, play style and team personalities. I can cheer for a team lead by PK Subban and Carey Price because they're two of my favourite characters. I can cheer for an '06 Oilers or '94 Canucks because they're a gritty underdog. I could even cheer for the Flames if it were, say, Jarome Iginla's last chance at the Stanley Cup.

I didn't cheer for Ottawa in 2007 because I didn't find them interesting enough.


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01-03-2013, 02:38 AM
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I think it depends on the team. The only Canadian team I cheer against is Toronto (Habs fan), it's just too much of a rivalry to cheer for them. I cheer for every other Canadian team in the playoffs, the Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver cup runs come to mind.

The other thing is a lot of Canadian fans are borderline Don Cherry xenophobes about hockey, people got behind Boston for being good ol' tough Canadian boys (despite their best players that year being an American and a Slovak), and were against the Canucks because of the Sedins.
Usually whenever "most hated" threads come out it's the Québécois, rather than Swedish, players on the Canucks that people have issues with. Mind you, French-Canadian is no better than European in Cherry's hierarchy, and Burrows in particular really feeds into his stereotype of French-Canadians as people who are willing to be annoying but are unwilling to fight when the other team challenges him.

Mind you, people in Alberta normally cheer against the Canucks, and a lot of people in the Maritimes normally support, or at least symphathize with, the Bruins. I don't think the Canucks would have gotten much more support even if they were a more disciplined team.

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01-03-2013, 03:02 AM
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I see no reason to cheer for Canadian teams just because they're Canadian.

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01-03-2013, 03:15 AM
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I've 'cheered' for Tampa Bay, Carolina, Montreal, and Vancouver, during the finals in the past 20 years.

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01-03-2013, 03:43 AM
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I used to cheer for Calgary. Then I saw how their fans acted during the 2006 Oiler run..

Only other Canadian teams I would cheer for are Ottawa and Winnipeg.

EDIT: I cheer for Iginla. He is my favourite player for sure. Great character and great player.

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01-03-2013, 05:57 AM
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I do tend to cheer for other Canadian teams that make it far in the playoffs, once the Canucks are out.

I see a lot of people here stating that they can't see any reason to do that, so allow me to explain: The main reason I do it is a sense of identification with other hockey fans, regardless if they, as a fanbase, like the Canucks or not. Hell, nearly everyone hates the Canucks, so WHATEVER. We're "villains". Every story needs a villain.

I know what it means to a Canadian city to win a Stanley cup. I know how engrained that is, where even non-hockey fans get swept up into it, and the whole city goes nuts. Frankly, it's a beautiful thing. I lived in Calgary in 1989, I was here in Vancouver in 2010... so I know EXACTLY what that means. How powerful it is, and how it brings the whole city together. I love to see that for other fans... and I hope that I get to experience it one day in my lifetime as well.

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01-03-2013, 06:00 AM
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Few simple rules to explain this.

1) No one cheers for TOR/VAN
2) Everyone cheers for WPG
3) Everyone except TOR fans cheer for OTT
4) Everyone except TOR fans cheer for MTL
5) Everyone except EDM/CGY + VAN fans cheers for CGY/EDM

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What does the N in NHL stand for again? I am confused.
the teams are not national. there is no USA vs Canada in the NHL. There are 30 teams.

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I've cheered for every Canadian team on a cup run since I've started watching hockey, except for Vancouver in 2011. I feel that many other people I know feel the same way. That Canucks team was well hated.

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As a Maple Leafs fan, I have never understood the hatred so many Canadians seem to have for all other Canadian teams.

I hate the teams in my division (namely Montreal and Ottawa) and root for their demise, but seeing as Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg (sort of) have no real effect on my team's standing, I will (and do) gladly cheer them on in the playoffs.

There was no question in my mind who I was supporting when Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver made the Final (Vancouver did test this pattern though).

Though it isn't exclusively a Canada v. USA thing. I just root for whichever fanbase I think wants it more/which city will make a bigger deal out of it. It just so happens that the farther north you go, the more appreciative the general population is of the game of hockey.

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01-03-2013, 07:45 AM
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What does the N in NHL stand for again? I am confused.
If you think that the N in NHL is meant for us to prefer teams from our country then there's a problem...

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