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01-03-2013, 12:21 AM
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kirshna, if they get a deal done by this week, camps could open up this weekend / next week. would you start the season sooner?



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01-03-2013, 12:34 AM
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kirshna, if they get a deal done by this week, camps could open up this weekend / next week. would you start the season sooner?



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We'd probably need a week buffer between when the sides agree and when training camp starts.

Both sides would have to ratify it and then players need to return home.

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Don Fehr did the right thing tonight for his players and the NHL.

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"Hard to say" says source in talks when asked if there's any progress

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We'd probably need a week buffer between when the sides agree and when training camp starts.

Both sides would have to ratify it and then players need to return home.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Don Fehr did the right thing tonight for his players and the NHL.

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"Hard to say" says source in talks when asked if there's any progress

what did fehr do that was right?

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Not file the disclaimer of interest.

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Not file the disclaimer of interest.
well true, but they can always re do the whole thing if talks fail.


but everything seems as if this deal is going to get done.

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01-03-2013, 12:40 AM
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well true, but they can always re do the whole thing if talks fail.


but everything seems as if this deal is going to get done.
If they try it again, season is done

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01-03-2013, 12:42 AM
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It shows both sides are finally serious about getting this deal done. Hopefully as I stay up for the US/Can game I see a deal is done via twitter.

EDIT: Doesn't look like a deal will be done tonight according to Botta

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01-03-2013, 12:48 AM
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It shows both sides are finally serious about getting this deal done. Hopefully as I stay up for the US/Can game I see a deal is done via twitter.

EDIT: Doesn't look like a deal will be done tonight according to Botta
yeah, i'm staying up to, don't have work till Monday. As jacky bam bam would say lets plug in the coffee I V and punch in our full time vampire union cards as we rock the 3rd shift aka the red eye.

when this gets done, Krishna and prong if you want ill treat you to a delassandros cheesesteak, the place is like 2 min from the house.

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01-03-2013, 12:55 AM
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Alright I will take the cheesesteak, while I am at it I have to buy Krishna a beer too. Well that's at least what he claims. lol.

Lots of people also don't really trust Botta also. I am not saying a deal gets done tonight, but it doesn't seem outlandish. Especially when Dreger and other aren't reporting too much.

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01-03-2013, 12:58 AM
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I am okay with this.

And prongo owes me a case. Not a beer.

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01-03-2013, 01:01 AM
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tsn.ca just somewhat updated it's website and they have lebrun / Darren doing an update.

interesting besides the pension issue, the other one that he brought up in this video. PA wants the NHL to come up on year 2 salary cap which is at 60, PA wants it at 70 which NHL said no numerous times, so I'm hoping they both will agree around 65.

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And the meeting is done...

Don Fehr presser upcoming.

I will post links in a little

https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN/stat...14853769482240
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Fehr also said "parties moved closer" on some issues but a lot remains unresolved.
https://twitter.com/dshoalts/status/286714885293875200
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Fehr also said mediator was present for tonight's meeting, which went about four hours. Said union will consider where things sit in morning
Won't comment on disclaimer of interest.


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Alright I will take the cheesesteak, while I am at it I have to buy Krishna a beer too. Well that's at least what he claims. lol.

Lots of people also don't really trust Botta also. I am not saying a deal gets done tonight, but it doesn't seem outlandish. Especially when Dreger and other aren't reporting too much.
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I am okay with this.

And prongo owes me a case. Not a beer.

will have to meet at delassandros henry ave / walnut lane, right by the walnut lane golf course / across from the Sunoco gas station.

not now but when you both have free time.

can't beat rib eye cheesesteaks, with fried onions and for me hot banana peppers

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01-03-2013, 01:04 AM
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And the meeting is done...

Don Fehr presser upcoming.

I will post links in a little

"they move closer on some issues, still apart on others"

Mediation was involved today.
now that was a surprise, to hear mediation



pnotch, dreger, pierre all have the same thing players leaving with no comment. I wonder if Fehr told them not to say anything, plus fehr will address.

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01-03-2013, 01:06 AM
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https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/sta...14888049553409

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NHLPA did not filed for disclaimer, source just told me.
Plan is to meet tomorrow also it seems.

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01-03-2013, 01:07 AM
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Meeting over. Fehr says both sides moved closer but still work to be done



here is TSN radio Toronto they are all over the press conference here is a link

http://www.tsn.ca/Toronto/listen/

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The press and fans should rip them if they do not meet tomorrow. They need to meet everyday to resolve this, they shouldn't be taking days off.

That link that PHILOUDELPHIA posted now has Lebrun, Dreger on it

Mediator also said they should meet tomorrow at 10 am and will be present via Bettman.

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TSN radio says, bettman said in his press conference talks will resume at 10am, it was requested by the mediator scott becknaw

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I like that the mediator was there, but more importantly it wasn't mentioned by any media members. Hopefully they keep everything in the dark right now and worry about getting a deal done instead of leaking info.

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prong n kirshna, I heard D Fehr speak, he said pretty much nothing, didn't want to say much you could also sense he was exhausted.




dreger, lebrun said on there tsn report

the year 2 salary cap NHL of course is at 60, I thought PA was at 70, but now I heard they started the pa at 65. so besides the pension, the year 2 cap was a big issue.

so NHL has been saying no past 60 in year 2 and hasn't budged, but with mediation now in place, I wonder if they will meet in the middle 62 or 63 for year 2


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prong n kirshna, I heard D Fehr speak,


dreger, lebrun said on there tsn report

the year 2 salary cap NHL of course is at 60, I thought PA was at 70, but now I heard they started the pa at 65. so besides the pension, the year 2 cap was a big issue.

so NHL has been saying no past 60 in year 2 and hasn't budged, but with mediation now in place, I wonder if they will meet in the middle 62 or 63 for year 2
Maybe they will meet at 65 with the PA giving in on pensions somewhat. Make them compromise on the major issues. Mediation has been there all week also according to Lebrun.

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get em in that room and lock the door until they get a deal done.

enough already.

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NHLPA made a concession tonight. No cap on escrow. Now let's see the NHL make a concession on the 13-14 cap number.

https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/sta...23547664117760

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Ugh! This is getting so "pins and needles" at this point. I feel like any minute a deal will be done, or the whole thing will blow up and we won't see hockey this year.

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