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12-26-2012, 02:51 PM
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Offensively he has regressed and defensively he was awful at the WJC camp.
Until their recent hot streak, Red Deer was about the worst team in the league.

If there is concern it should be with his IQ playing defense.

But, considering many defensive prospects CAN take up to 4 or 5 years to pan out at all, I am simply not going to worry for another year or two.

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12-29-2012, 02:56 PM
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Found it interesting while watching that Get To Know An Aero: MiG video that he kind of smiled and said he actually thinks he likes the North American rink/ playing style more because it's less thinking/time with the puck, you just get to 'go'. Whether that was him telling himself that or actually the truth, it sounds like he definitely is trying his darndest to adapt to NA hockey.

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12-29-2012, 03:23 PM
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Is it just me or are Coyle, Granlund, and Larsson quite stoic? I see Zucker get excited and celebrate a goal, assist, etc. but the three mentioned above generally just stand there. Not that it matters...just find it interesting.

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12-29-2012, 03:54 PM
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Is it just me or are Coyle, Granlund, and Larsson quite stoic? I see Zucker get excited and celebrate a goal, assist, etc. but the three mentioned above generally just stand there. Not that it matters...just find it interesting.

Might have something to do with their NHL aspirations..I'd imagine they all think they will make the team even Larsson. Otherwise Granlund/Larsson could be playing at home for far more money. I imagine Granlund especially is as pissed as anyone with this lockout. He was supposed to be setting up Heater and Parise for one timers not Coyle and Zucker

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12-30-2012, 11:20 PM
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Any word on Brodin? He has been out just over 8 weeks now I believe. Just curious....

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12-31-2012, 12:04 AM
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He's skating with his teammates so it's a good sign.

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12-31-2012, 11:51 AM
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THREE STARS
1. Granlund 3-1=4 in 3gp
2. Dumba 2-2=4 in 3gp
3. Haula 1-3=4 in 2gp

STILL DOING NOTHING
Phillips 0-0=0 -1 in 3gp

NEWS
Bjorn Krupp was traded to Endras' DEL team it seems


2012 WJC-U20
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
CChristoph Bertschy5'1017018.8 Switzerland421364    
FMario Lucia6'218719.4 USA401101    

AHL/ECHL
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LJason Zucker5'1117421AHLHouston Aeros2713132621-8    
RJustin Fontaine5'1017025.2AHLHouston Aeros288142222    
DBrian Connelly5'1117026.6AHLHouston Aeros302182084    
RNick Palmieri6'222523.5AHLHouston Aeros3191019339    
CCharlie Coyle6'220520.8AHLHouston Aeros311171816-5    
CMikael Granlund5'1018020.9AHLHouston Aeros19810186-5    
LJohan Larsson5'1020020.4AHLHouston Aeros317101716-2    
CDavid McIntyre6'019025.9AHLHouston Aeros3079161815    
DMarco Scandella6'221622.9AHLHouston Aeros2311011131    
DChay Genoway5'917726AHLHouston Aeros293811234    
LKris Foucault6'120222.1AHLHouston Aeros2046102-3    
CZack Phillips6'017520.2AHLHouston Aeros2919102-6    
CChad Rau5'1117526AHLHouston Aeros1642641    
DSteven Kampfer5'1119724.3AHLHouston Aeros1406610-10    
CCarson McMillan6'120024.3AHLHouston Aeros1914544    
DJonas Brodin6'116619.5AHLHouston Aeros822442    
CJoel Broda6'019623.1AHLHouston Aeros2822422-5    
DTyler Cuma6'218023AHLHouston Aeros231348-4    
LBrett Bulmer6'318520.7AHLHouston Aeros1711219-8    
DKyle Medvec6'519124.6AHLHouston Aeros810121    
DJosh Caron6'221521.9AHLHouston Aeros100007-1    
GMatt Hackett6'217022.8AHLHouston Aeros      25122.630.903
GDarcy Kuemper6'419522.7AHLHouston Aeros      742.380.913
DSean Lorenz6'119122.8ECHLOrlando Solar Bears221894-1    
DKyle Medvec6'519124.6ECHLOrlando Solar Bears12347162    
DJosh Caron   ECHLOrlando Solar Bears1811234-1    

Europe
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
CCody Almond6'219923.5Swiss-AGeneve Servette2661319404    
DDaniel Gunnarsson6'520120.7SELLulea HF345611147    
RMikko Lehtonen6'319625.8KHLCherepovets Severstal2336980    
DBjorn Krupp6'218921.8DELCologne Sharks1814583    
CChristoph Bertschy5'1017018.8Swiss-ABern27224141    
GDennis Endras6'016727.5DELMannheim Eagles      25152.320.925
GJohan Gustafsson6'220220.9SELLulea HF      22131.670.929

College
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LErik Haula5'1018421.8WCHAU. of Minnesota19917268     
FMario Lucia6'218719.4CCHANotre Dame955104     
DNick Seeler6'017019.6WCHAU. of Nebraska-Omaha1825718     
DJohn Draeger6'218619.1CCHAMichigan State University191458     
CAnthony Hamburg6'118521.4R.I.T.AHA111348     

Junior
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LRaphael Bussieres6'119519.2QMJHLBaie-Comeau Drakkar382026462224    
CTyler Graovac6'317919.7OHLOttawa 67's271813316-15    
LLouis Nanne5'1117118.6BCHLPenticton Vees2913132612     
CAdam Gilmour6'219318.9USHLMuskegon Lumberjacks30111223411    
DMathew Dumba6'018418.4WHLRed Deer Rebels379122145-5    
DColton Jobke6'017520.7WHLRegina Pats1711314420    
GStephen Michalek6'219619.4USHLCedar Rapids RoughRiders      943.320.885

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12-31-2012, 02:01 PM
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I take it the 67's aren't a very good team based on Graovac's +/- rating.

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12-31-2012, 06:31 PM
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I must say I liked to see that Zucker was moved to play with Larsson last game. Even though we didn't get to see them on the scoreboard, they both produced a lot together while Johan centered the top line. Since Granlund came back, for some reason Zucker disappeared and Coyle who earlier was cold as ice came alive!
At least from the stats point of view...

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12-31-2012, 07:39 PM
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STILL DOING NOTHING
Phillips 0-0=0 -1 in 3gp
He never disappoints in shootouts though.

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01-01-2013, 06:41 PM
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Just really enjoying Zucker's trajectory at this stage. He paced some of the best WCHA freshman in last while when he joined DU, had a very nice Sophomore season, and is now flirting with a point per game pace in his first year of pro hockey. He's going to be a good one.

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01-01-2013, 06:51 PM
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Just really enjoying Zucker's trajectory at this stage. He paced some of the best WCHA freshman in last while when he joined DU, had a very nice Sophomore season, and is now flirting with a point per game pace in his first year of pro hockey. He's going to be a good one.
Yep - Parise light.

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01-02-2013, 09:13 AM
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tsn pbp guys raving about Baertschy as SUI is 3 mins from upsetting RUS. Baertschy with a shg in the first.

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Yep - Parise light.
While is not fair of me to expect anything like the production that Parise has shown in the NHL, Zucker could def. be as productive as Parise in the NHL if he continues performing as well as the difficulty gradient goes up when he joins the team in the NHL. He has shown no self doubt or trouble in his adaptation of every level of the game. He is already Parise size, and has jets. They do play a different game. Here's to hoping he is good for 25 goals a season, at least.

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01-03-2013, 01:11 AM
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Bussieres is doing well. Seems like Graovac cooled down a bit.

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Bah 2012 looks kind of bad in terms of draft. Two good years of drafting...

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Bah 2012 looks kind of bad in terms of draft. Two good years of drafting...
A little early?

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01-03-2013, 07:35 AM
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How long did it take for everyone to come around on the Granlund and Brodin picks?

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I know this has already stated very many times here and its really early but.. we should have taken Trouba over Dumba the guy is a pure beast and amazing.

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I was on Brodin's wagon from 2hrs after the draft (took that long to drive home and get some info on him) this was further solidified during the prospect scrimmage when he did nothing less then amaze and with each game after that.

Wasn't high and still not in love with Granlund as many are, i see he is progressing along quite nicely and am coming around on him tho.

also the question mark with Dumba is something you can't teach, if he is a defensive liability in the Pro's he'll be the MaB type dman, guy you put out on the PP but in no serious game situation do you use him.

to me

Trouba is superior in ever aspect of the game to dumba, i just see Trouba playing more of a game he'll be able to play at NHL while Dumba is going to have to change his play style, and you never want a guy tho have to change his play style.

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I was on Brodin's wagon from 2hrs after the draft (took that long to drive home and get some info on him) this was further solidified during the prospect scrimmage when he did nothing less then amaze and with each game after that.

Wasn't high and still not in love with Granlund as many are, i see he is progressing along quite nicely and am coming around on him tho.

also the question mark with Dumba is something you can't teach, if he is a defensive liability in the Pro's he'll be the MaB type dman, guy you put out on the PP but in no serious game situation do you use him.

to me

Trouba is superior in ever aspect of the game to dumba, i just see Trouba playing more of a game he'll be able to play at NHL while Dumba is going to have to change his play style, and you never want a guy tho have to change his play style.
Except offense, hitting, leadership. Basically everything we drafted him for.

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I liked Trouba more than Dumba (obviously, because I wanted the Wild to draft him before that 2011-12 season even began) however, the guy who I'm still disappointed they didn't draft is Forsberg. Kid is a stud.

I'm willing to give Dumba time, but given what little I've seen from him I'm less than impressed given his draft position. Quite frankly, I wouldn't even call him a top 5 prospect in this organization. Granted, this team does have an upper echelon-type system.

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Short of the top three picks, I don't think anyone would've ranked as a top 5 prospect in the organization. At least right off the bat.

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How long did it take for everyone to come around on the Granlund and Brodin picks?
Granlund, almost immediately, and Brodin, probably late in the summer after everyone got to see him skating with the rookie camp.

With Granlund, he had his own fanboy club that came with him, in a good way. Every game we got reports from lots of Finns (who stuck around too). Tons of news and nearly all positive.

Brodin, there were a few people who would post updates after his games, mostly that he was close on goals or assists but he was steady and good defensively and positive +/-. And then the scouts raved about him in the WJC and WC. So again, slow trickle of positive news.

But Dumba...the hype completely died when the Wild drafted him. Nobody talks about him anymore. Kind of like Ryan Murphy when he was drafted, fell of the map. The only news we get is his stats, which are going the wrong way. A couple times I've tried to ask about him and the general consensus by the 2-3 people who've seen him is he's maybe better defensively but his hockey IQ sucks and team sucks. And then the one time this year he's made any noise was the WJC tryouts, where he was beyond horrible. So not much news but mostly negative.

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Random thought:

If he was still available when we picked, does anyone think the Wild would have picked Jake McCabe (#44) over Bussieres (#46)?

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