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Flyers' 2013 regular season schedule (posts #1 and #552). CBA officially ratified.

View Poll Results: How will you show your displeasure with the lockout when NHL hockey returns?
I will not attend any live games 8 10.96%
I will not attend live games, nor will I purchase NHL merchandise 22 30.14%
I will attend live games, but fewer games than in previous years 5 6.85%
I have season's tickets, but I will spend less on merchandise and concessions 3 4.11%
I have season's tickets and I will skip the first game 1 1.37%
I will be so happy that hockey is back that I will attend as many or more games than usual 14 19.18%
Purplemonkeydishwasher 20 27.40%
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01-03-2013, 07:59 AM
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Flyers' 2013 regular season schedule (posts #1 and #552). CBA officially ratified.

Now I'm sure everyone will be very happy it is over, but are you planning on doing anything that will show the league that this is complete BS or will you go back to business as usual and start pumping money back to them?

For season ticket fans, you've already invested in tickets, but will you not buy any concessions for your first 10 games or buy no gear? Will non ticket holders decide not to buy gear or the 5-10 tickets you normally get?

I'd certainly love to see no one show up at the first game of all the NHL teams, but that is a pipe dream and I know I'll still try and get Penguins tickets when the Flyers are in town so I can rock the Orange and Black here, but maybe if there is a shortened season this year I won't even attempt to get those tickets.

What about you?
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Official schedule up on Flyers website

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/schedule....013&gameType=2

January 2013
Date Visitor Home Time (ET) TV Network/Results
Sat Jan 19, 2013 Penguins Flyers 3:00 PM NBC
Sun Jan 20, 2013 Flyers Sabres 12:30 PM NBC
Tue Jan 22, 2013 Flyers Devils 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Jan 24, 2013 Rangers Flyers 7:00 PM NHLN-US
Sat Jan 26, 2013 Flyers Panthers 7:30 PM
Sun Jan 27, 2013 Flyers Lightning 6:00 PM
Tue Jan 29, 2013 Flyers Rangers 7:00 PM

February 2013
Date Visitor Home Time (ET) TV Network/Results
Fri Feb 1, 2013 Flyers Capitals 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 2, 2013 Hurricanes Flyers 7:00 PM
Tue Feb 5, 2013 Lightning Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Feb 7, 2013 Panthers Flyers 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 9, 2013 Hurricanes Flyers 1:00 PM
Mon Feb 11, 2013 Flyers Maple Leafs 7:00 PM
Tue Feb 12, 2013 Flyers Jets 8:00 PM
Fri Feb 15, 2013 Flyers Devils 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 16, 2013 Flyers Canadiens 7:00 PM CBC, RDS, NHLN-US
Mon Feb 18, 2013 Flyers Islanders 1:00 PM
Wed Feb 20, 2013 Flyers Penguins 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Feb 21, 2013 Panthers Flyers 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 23, 2013 Jets Flyers 1:00 PM
Mon Feb 25, 2013 Maple Leafs Flyers 7:00 PM TSN
Wed Feb 27, 2013 Capitals Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN

March 2013
Date Visitor Home Time (ET) TV Network/Results
Sat Mar 2, 2013 Senators Flyers 12:00 PM NHLN-US
Tue Mar 5, 2013 Flyers Rangers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Mar 7, 2013 Penguins Flyers 7:00 PM NHLN-US
Sat Mar 9, 2013 Flyers Bruins 1:00 PM NHLN-US
Sun Mar 10, 2013 Sabres Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Wed Mar 13, 2013 Flyers Devils 7:30 PM NBCSN
Fri Mar 15, 2013 Devils Flyers 7:00 PM NHLN-US
Mon Mar 18, 2013 Flyers Lightning 7:30 PM NBCSN
Sun Mar 24, 2013 Flyers Penguins 7:00 PM
Tue Mar 26, 2013 Rangers Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Mar 28, 2013 Islanders Flyers 7:00 PM
Sat Mar 30, 2013 Bruins Flyers 1:00 PM NHLN-US
Sun Mar 31, 2013 Capitals Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN

April 2013
Date Visitor Home Time (ET) TV Network/Results
Wed Apr 3, 2013 Canadiens Flyers 7:30 PM RDS, TSN
Thu Apr 4, 2013 Flyers Maple Leafs 7:00 PM
Sat Apr 6, 2013 Flyers Jets 3:00 PM CBC
Tue Apr 9, 2013 Flyers Islanders 7:00 PM
Thu Apr 11, 2013 Senators Flyers 7:00 PM
Sat Apr 13, 2013 Flyers Sabres 3:00 PM
Mon Apr 15, 2013 Flyers Canadiens 7:30 PM RDS
Tue Apr 16, 2013 Rangers Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Apr 18, 2013 Devils Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Sat Apr 20, 2013 Flyers Hurricanes 7:00 PM
Tue Apr 23, 2013 Bruins Flyers 7:30 PM NBCSN
Thu Apr 25, 2013 Islanders Flyers 7:00 PM
Sat Apr 27, 2013 Flyers Senators 7:00 PM CBC


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I won't base my entertainment decisions on what a bunch of athletes and owners do.

I enjoy hockey qua hockey-- which is bigger then the players and the owners.

I'll watch pro, junior, etc, just like always, especially enjoying my new MEGA SURROUND THEATER OF WIN I got for Christmas.

...... but truth be told, I'll always harbor a resentment, I won't forget, trust me, that both players and owners committed the same sin: They renegged on the social contracts kept with the communities and economies that support them. The very communities that supported them they turned their back on so they could line their own pockets with more money that comes from communities that pay taxes to build them stadiums.

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I'll watch on TV but will NOT go to any games!!! I will spend 0.0 dollars on the NHL for a LONG time!!!

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A couple of encouraging details: #NHL has agreed to two compliance buyouts/team in 2013-14; and variance on contracts in 20% range now
Two compliance buy outs is huge. Bryz and Pronger would be off our books.
Wow, I'd love to see that happen!

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^^^^^

In the last thread, I posted that Micheal Grange said they agreed to two compliance buyouts per team for 13-14. Also 20% variance for contracts.

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I'm sure this has been discussed before but can you buy out an injured player?

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2 buyouts....nice. So the debate will be between Pronger, Bryz and Briere as usual..

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I'm sure this has been discussed before but can you buy out an injured player?
I don't see why it would be any problem because they will be getting full value for the buyout. I don't think it is like the buyout the teams get at the end of the year. The player gets full value and it doesn't count against our cap.

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I don't see why it would be any problem because they will be getting full value for the buyout. I don't think it is like the buyout the teams get at the end of the year. The player gets full value and it doesn't count against our cap.
They will buy out Shelley...

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I'm sure this has been discussed before but can you buy out an injured player?
I don't think so unless they agree to it.

Wasn't drury injured when the rangers tried to buy him out?

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"Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange
A couple of encouraging details: #NHL has agreed to two compliance buyouts/team in 2013-14; and variance on contracts in 20% range now

Retweeted by Travis Hughes "

WOW. Movement like that I expect a deal to get done. 2 buyouts would be huge. HUGE.

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"Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange
A couple of encouraging details: #NHL has agreed to two compliance buyouts/team in 2013-14; and variance on contracts in 20% range now

Retweeted by Travis Hughes "

WOW. Movement like that I expect a deal to get done. 2 buyouts would be huge. HUGE.
Two buyouts tells me that there won't be any movement on the $60m cap for the 13/14 season.
That would basically mean the Flyers have to buy out Briere, which sucks.

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If they do buyout Bryz and Pronger, that clears up over 10 million in cap space. We would have around 13 million to work with to resign Kimmo if we choose to and Wellwood, Rinaldo, and a third line winger.

We wouldn't be in that bad a spot for next year.

Of course there is always the trade route though.

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Two buyouts tells me that there won't be any movement on the $60m cap for the 13/14 season.
That would basically mean the Flyers have to buy out Briere, which sucks.
Yeah..sounds like it if true. That 60M cap is pretty tight for Holmgren to work with considering our D corps needing some legit additions.

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I don't think so unless they agree to it.

Wasn't drury injured when the rangers tried to buy him out?
Yes, but this wasn't compliance buyout I thought. Aren't these buyouts different? Pretty sure they are.

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The 2 buyouts does sound big, but in reality, it's really not.

The players who are bought out still get their money from the players share

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Yes, but this wasn't compliance buyout I thought. Aren't these buyouts different? Pretty sure they are.
I doubt they are different

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If they do buyout Bryz and Pronger, that clears up over 10 million in cap space. We would have around 13 million to work with to resign Kimmo if we choose to and Wellwood, Rinaldo, and a third line winger.

We wouldn't be in that bad a spot for next year.

Of course there is always the trade route though.
I doubt they buyout Bryz unless they have a plan to get another goalie...whoever that may be b/c we all know Leighton is NOT and was NEVER NHL material....

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I doubt they buyout Bryz unless they have a plan to get another goalie...whoever that may be b/c we all know Leighton is NOT and was NEVER NHL material....
Well that's next year also. I don't think Leighton is back next year to be our back up unless he has some kind of amazing season (he just isn't capable of that). Their will be other goalies available next year, just can't sign them to the crazy Bryz contract.

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If they do buyout Bryz and Pronger, that clears up over 10 million in cap space. We would have around 13 million to work with to resign Kimmo if we choose to and Wellwood, Rinaldo, and a third line winger.

We wouldn't be in that bad a spot for next year.

Of course there is always the trade route though.
It's clearing the $5.66m of Bryz. Pronger doesn't actually count against the cap.
It would also leave us without a starting goaltender.

I hate this from a Flyers perspective. We'll lose at least one significant peace, more likely two. Hopefully Homer can at least make a few trades instead of buying them out and not get anything in return. There goes any shot at the cup for quite some time.


Homer should target guys like Brandon Gormley. Phoenix might like the idea of Briere with a high caphit but low actual salary or a guy like Read, who'd be a good fit for Dave Tippet. We need some cost-controlled talent at the back-end. Also Grossmann's contract suddenly becomes rather bad.

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IMO you buy out Briere and Pronger.

Pronger probably wont play ever again.

Briere isn't really showing up in the regular season and only does while in the playoffs. For his caphit, we need him all the time..

Bryz isn't really a viable option. As others said, you can hope another goalie gets bought out and try to sign them. But there's so many teams trying to get goalies that it's not really a good time to bet on the market

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Well that's next year also. I don't think Leighton is back next year to be our back up unless he has some kind of amazing season (he just isn't capable of that). Their will be other goalies available next year, just can't sign them to the crazy Bryz contract.
oh yeah...if we get a season we get to see what Bryz is made of. No excuses IMO...don't care about the shortened season and him needing to adjust etc etc.

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I doubt they are different
I believe you can buyout an injured player. When buying out a player after a season, they only get portion of that contract, and only portion of it counts on our cap. IIRC

Now they get all their money, and it doesn't count. They are different buyouts. One is a compliance buyout, and the other is just a buyout.

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I believe you can buyout an injured player. When buying out a player after a season, they only get portion of that contract, and only portion of it counts on our cap. IIRC

Now they get all their money, and it doesn't count. They are different buyouts. One is a compliance buyout, and the other is just a buyout.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,wp7432

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The inability to buy out an injured player means that Drury's full $7.05 million charge will remain on the Blueshirts' summer cap, which can exceed the 2011-12 season cap by 10 percent. Under terms of the CBA, the captain will have to report to training camp in September for the team physical. If Drury fails, as would be expected, he would qualify for a long-term injury (LTI) exemption when the season begins and the roster is set.
But in order to gain the full value of the $7.05 million exemption, the Rangers would have to go that far over the cap. In other words, if the cap is $62.5 million (an estimation before it is officially established by June 30), the team would have to get to $69.5 million (including Drury) before the season-opener in Stockholm to reap the full LTI benefit.

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It's clearing the $5.66m of Bryz. Pronger doesn't actually count against the cap.
It would also leave us without a starting goaltender.

I hate this from a Flyers perspective. We'll lose at least one significant peace, more likely two. Hopefully Homer can at least make a few trades instead of buying them out and not get anything in return. There goes any shot at the cup for quite some time.


Homer should target guys like Brandon Gormley. Phoenix might like the idea of Briere with a high caphit but low actual salary or a guy like Read, who'd be a good fit for Dave Tippet. We need some cost-controlled talent at the back-end. Also Grossmann's contract suddenly becomes rather bad.

Like Meltzer said....no matter what this next CBA is not going to be good for the Flyers. Holmgren is going to have to be really savy...which scares me.

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