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01-03-2013, 02:48 AM
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I think I would send Galchenyuk back to Sarnia after some serious praise and have him play in the AHL next year.
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Eller - Armstrong
Moen - Plekanec - Gionta
Prust - Nokelainen - White

13th: Gomez

Markov - Subban
Georges - Emelin
Kaberle - Boulion

Ex: Weber, Diaz

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he can't, CHL next year then AHL.

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01-03-2013, 03:06 AM
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I don't want to see Galchenyuk close to this lineup if there's a NHL season. Let him do his thing in the CHL, and next year we'll see if he can secure a spot with the team.

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01-03-2013, 03:12 AM
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I have no problem with either of those things, but from the sounds of it Galcheyuk would have to really dominate. I think his injury last year is a good reason to leave him all year in the OHL, plus there may be too much pressure for him to be the "saviour" coming out of a 28th place finish.

In terms of Gomez, I don't see where he would fit in the lineup. Maybe slide Eller to wing I guess. They may not want to do that if they see Eller as a #2 center down the road. Gomez on the wing didn't work at all.
gomez doesn't really work anywhere...

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01-03-2013, 03:19 AM
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I don't think we should look at next year right now. The kid came into the tourny by scoring 29pts in his last 11GP, people can argue about whether or not he's playing great in the WJC but he was 2nd in scoring before today, needless to say, kid has loads of talent.
Give him the rest of the year+summer training, who knows where he'll be in his development at the start of next year. I wouldn't be surprised to see him stick with the club. It's not like he'd have a tough time to breaking our lineup. I guess we'll see.
For some reason, I thought he was 19 and AHL eligible next year! So yeah, scratch that whole next season bit, haha. And I agree, kid has all the tools and I think he has looked great at the WJC so far... I like him and I didn't expect him to play so well. I just don't want to rush him.

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01-03-2013, 04:42 AM
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The obvious strategy for Galchenyuk is letting him finish his year in the CHL, then bring him to the NHL. He's talented enough for it and there's no need to let his talent go to waste in an AHL team full of plumbers.

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01-03-2013, 08:46 AM
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he can't, CHL next year then AHL.
Does anyone know why Gally was taken in the OHL priority draft and not the import draft? I believe if he was an import, he would not be subject to the OHL/NHL agreement keeping him out of the AHL.

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01-03-2013, 08:50 AM
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Does anyone know why Gally was taken in the OHL priority draft and not the import draft? I believe if he was an import, he would not be subject to the OHL/NHL agreement keeping him out of the AHL.
Because he played in Chicago in the MWEHL (2009-10 season). Only reason why he played there was to be certain he would play in the OHL for sure.

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01-03-2013, 08:50 AM
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I get excited about the lockout ending then I look at our potential lineup then I remember that Michel Therrien is our coach

Oh well, at least our prospect pool will keep getting better with another lottery pick.

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01-03-2013, 08:54 AM
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Because he played in Chicago in the MWEHL (2009-10 season). Only reason why he played there was to be certain he would play in the OHL for sure.
Ah, thanks.

I'd love to see him play a season at a level somewhere between the OHL and NHL. The SM-Liiga seems like a good, creative option, but I don't see this incarnation of the Habs organization making a move like that.

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01-03-2013, 09:08 AM
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That will probably depend on the transition rules. I see it highgly likely we have compliance buyouts.
I don't know if using it on a player with a year left on his contract after this season makes sense.

If Bourque has a poor showing if there's a shortened season, I think it'd be used on him instead.

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01-03-2013, 10:36 AM
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NHL and the PA have agreed on 2 compliance buyouts per team. Do we assume that means Gomez and Kaberle are gone?

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01-03-2013, 10:40 AM
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NHL and the PA have agreed on 2 compliance buyouts per team. Do we assume that means Gomez and Kaberle are gone?
Seems like it's only for 2013-14 though...

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01-03-2013, 10:44 AM
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Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Moen - Eller - Leblanc
Prust - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Markov - Kaberle
Gorges - Subban
Diaz - Emelin
Bouillon - St-Denis

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Weber traded?

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The buyouts will be in the summer so teams can get under the cap without rollbacks.

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01-03-2013, 10:47 AM
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Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Moen - Eller - Leblanc
Prust - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Markov - Kaberle
Gorges - Subban
Diaz - Emelin
Bouillon

Weber

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I'm not sure I like the idea of Kaberle with Markov, but the rest I'd have to agree on.

I'd also like to see Cole and Bourque switch places when a shakeup is needed.

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01-03-2013, 10:49 AM
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I'm not sure I like the idea of Kaberle with Markov, but the rest I'd have to agree on.

I'd also like to see Cole and Bourque switch places when a shakeup is needed.
I put him there by default.

My ideal option, assuming no defenseman is ready from the minors, is to sign someone to fill that hole in the off-season.

I'm not sure who we would keep between St-Denis and Weber though -- unless we keep Leblanc in the minors and carry 9-defenseman.

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01-03-2013, 10:56 AM
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I think I would send Galchenyuk back to Sarnia after some serious praise and have him play in the AHL next year.


Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Eller - Armstrong
Moen - Plekanec - Gionta
Prust - Nokelainen - White

13th: Gomez

Markov - Subban
Georges - Emelin
Kaberle - Boulion

Ex: Weber, Diaz

Price
Budaj
Glacheyuk can't play AHL next year, it's NHL or OHL until 2014-2015.

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01-03-2013, 10:59 AM
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I don't know if using it on a player with a year left on his contract after this season makes sense.

If Bourque has a poor showing if there's a shortened season, I think it'd be used on him instead.
It makes sense when that player's cap hit is over 10% of the cap.

At 60 mil the average NHL player makes just below 3 mil/year, it makes to sense to buy out Bourque at 3.3 mil(even if he was playing 3rd line scoring 15 goals) ahead of Gomez at 7.35 mil.

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01-03-2013, 11:01 AM
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The problem with Bourque is the term. Not the cap hit.

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01-03-2013, 11:03 AM
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Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gally-Plekanec-Gionta
Bourque-Eller-Armstrong
Moen-White-Prust
Noki

Markov-Emelin
Gorges-Subban
Kaberle-Bouillon
Diaz
Weber

Or something like that... Armstrong is better than Prust offensively and less good a fighter, that's why he plays 4th line.
I'm going to see a whole bunch of lineups with Gally in there, aren't I? Let's just waste one UFA year on him, at 18 years old with a still healing knee, for a season we have no chance in. Please. Please stop.


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01-03-2013, 11:06 AM
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That will probably depend on the transition rules. I see it highgly likely we have compliance buyouts.
NOT this year. Is that so hard to get?

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I'm going to see a whole bunch lineups with Gally in there, aren't I? Let's just waste one UFA year on him, at 18 years old with a still healing knee, for a season we have no chance in. Please. Please stop.
While I agree that we should leave Gally in Sarnia - to say we have no chance is absolutely ridiculous.

Diaz is healthy and both him & Emelin have more development.

Bourque should be able to bounce back (hopefully).

Our C's have all been playing good hockey.

We have a great goalie.

And having Markov back should help our puck movement and PP.

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01-03-2013, 11:12 AM
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Patches - DD - Cole (Given)
Gally - Pleks - Bourque (ATAK-esque)
Moen - Eller - Gionta (Shutdown)
Prust - White - Armstrong (Energy line)
Gomez, Nokelainen

Markov - Subban
Kaberle - Gorges
Emelin - Bouillon
Diaz, Weber

Price
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Gomez is in the lineup, like it or not, until the compliance buyout period this summer.
Play Bourque on the RW where he was successful in Calgary. We've all heard of how bad Cole was in Edmonton on the LW, so let's give Bourque a shot on the side he's produced on before we give up on him.
I'd rather have Gally stay in the OHL, but I don't think it will happen.
Kabele needs a stable defensive partner and Emelin should play on the left side.

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01-03-2013, 11:18 AM
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I don't see how having Galchenyuk on the team can contribute to most important task: the rebuild.

The priority is to maximize trade value at the deadline of the players we'd like to deal, as we're not making any noise in the playoffs this year, and to maximize the development of young players.

Forwards:

Pacioretty-DD-Bourque (minutes as easy as last year's)
Plekanec-Eller-Cole
Armstrong-Gomez-Gionta
Prust-Noke-Moen
Spares and injury replacements: White, Leblanc

The above is a forward lineup that maximizes any potential trade value for Bourque and Armstrong. It also allows Eller to take the next step up. It also puts Gomez in a position to succeed, meaning we could conceivably extract a 3rd rounder from him at the end of the year if he bounces back and gets 30 points as the 3rd line center. I remind everyone that Gomez has a cap hit exceeding his salary by 3 million dollar next year.

Defense:

Markov-Subban
Kaberle-Gorges
Bouillon-Emelin
spares: Diaz, Weber

This is a defensive lineup that puts Andrei Markov in a protective position to succeed, as he will be covered by the best defensemen on the team, giving him room to grow back. Kaberle-Gorges is a good pairing at both ends of the ice, and they compensate for each other's weaknesses, meaning we could flip Kaberle for a 1st rounder. Bouillon-Emelin can be the shutdown pairing.
Too intelligent to actually happen. And unless Bergy is the new Sam Pollock, we won't see players showcased. Too bad.

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01-03-2013, 11:20 AM
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I expect neither of those to happen.
Gomez will be bought out and Galchenyuk will make the team.
I guess you'll enjoy Gally being a free agent at age 25 then, having wasted this year and risking serious injury for no reason in the NHL at age 18. And Gomez can't be bought out this year, either. Good post.


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