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01-01-2013, 09:06 PM
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For as great as Melo's been, that was an awful decision.

Pass the ball around, make some space.
Agreed.

I'll say it again. This team misses Felton.

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01-01-2013, 09:06 PM
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Knicks need to start playing defense all 4 quarters. You wouldn't have to have these comebacks if you play defense.

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01-01-2013, 09:12 PM
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Knicks need to start playing defense all 4 quarters. You wouldn't have to have these comebacks if you play defense.
Yep. If it wasn't for 2 great offensive second halves, the Knicks would've been absolutely blown out by subpar teams back to back.

We're back to the days of Tyson and JR (sometimes) being the only ones playing D, and this time we don't have Shump to help on the perimeter. It's ugly.

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01-01-2013, 09:24 PM
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Tyson Chandler with another off night. This is becoming too frequent. And I'm talking from a defensive end. What he gives on offense is gravy.

This team doesn't look like the team we saw in November. Not just defensively but the lack of ball movement isn't there either.

You can't mail in the first half and expect to win the game.

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01-01-2013, 09:30 PM
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Tyson Chandler with another off night. This is becoming too frequent. And I'm talking from a defensive end. What he gives on offense is gravy.

This team doesn't look like the team we saw in November. Not just defensively but the lack of ball movement isn't there either.

You can't mail in the first half and expect to win the game.
lol what? Chandler rarely has nights off. He was brilliant the game before.

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01-01-2013, 09:36 PM
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lol what? Chandler rarely has nights off. He was brilliant the game before.
Nope. His defense has been spotty this year. Not just game to game but within a game. He was a lot more consistent last year. He took it personal last year. I see players go the the basket easy on on him.

Would you call him a DPOY candidate right now?

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01-01-2013, 09:55 PM
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Tyson has been inconsistent this year, but outside of the first 2 weeks, nobody has played defense well consistently. Him and JR are the best at it.

Woody really needs to get these guys working on the defensive end again.

Also, i'd like to see Camby get Novak and KT's minutes. Give Brewer's minutes to Cope. Don't think Cope can keep up his good play but he's a better option than Brewer.

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01-03-2013, 10:07 AM
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During practice Wednesday, Woodson had to go over to Stoudemire to instruct him about a bad angle and posture he was taking when trying to stop his man from going baseline. It truly seemed to be the basic fundamentals.

Read more: Amar'e Stoudemire promises to improve after never being 'taught defense' http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks...#ixzz2GvfiAYuJ


Oh my!

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01-03-2013, 10:40 AM
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During practice Wednesday, Woodson had to go over to Stoudemire to instruct him about a bad angle and posture he was taking when trying to stop his man from going baseline. It truly seemed to be the basic fundamentals.

Read more: Amar'e Stoudemire promises to improve after never being 'taught defense' http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks...#ixzz2GvfiAYuJ


Oh my!
He spent his whole career under No-D Antoni :shrug:

I thought he was actually doing well last game after finding his groove. Shouldn't have subbed him off

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During practice Wednesday, Woodson had to go over to Stoudemire to instruct him about a bad angle and posture he was taking when trying to stop his man from going baseline. It truly seemed to be the basic fundamentals.

Read more: Amar'e Stoudemire promises to improve after never being 'taught defense' http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks...#ixzz2GvfiAYuJ


Oh my!
the raptors will catch up to us soon.

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01-03-2013, 01:27 PM
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During practice Wednesday, Woodson had to go over to Stoudemire to instruct him about a bad angle and posture he was taking when trying to stop his man from going baseline. It truly seemed to be the basic fundamentals.

Read more: Amar'e Stoudemire promises to improve after never being 'taught defense' http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks...#ixzz2GvfiAYuJ


Oh my!
Just reads to me like Amar'e is doing everything, and saying all the right things. Dude's a great player, no problem coming off the bench. Woodson is his coach and loves seeing good hard defense? Amar'e is ready to learn defense.

Lay off the guy, let him get his legs back and get back to game form. There's a reason he was hearing MVP chants in the Garden until 'Melo came to town.

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01-03-2013, 06:01 PM
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Knicks need a win here. Have to execute on O and D. Sad the Knicks keep finding themselves in spots to prove their legitimacy as they steadily decline but it has to happen.

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01-03-2013, 06:05 PM
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LOVE Camby starting with Tyson.

Sad to see Brewer still starting, though. It's time to have JR start. Brewer is bad.

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01-03-2013, 06:14 PM
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LOVE Camby starting with Tyson.

Sad to see Brewer still starting, though. It's time to have JR start. Brewer is bad.
Brewer should be sitting. There is no other threat on offense other than Melo.
All the Spurs/teams have to do is double Melo. Who is Melo going to pass the ball to?

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01-03-2013, 06:52 PM
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Ignoring the slump the team's in right now, it's so great to see the Garden go nuts for Stat. After an offseason, and then continued 3 months where almost every article about the dude was negative, i'm glad to see the Garden crowd hasn't forgotten how important he is to the franchise after 2010.

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01-03-2013, 06:55 PM
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Ignoring the slump the team's in right now, it's so great to see the Garden go nuts for Stat. After an offseason, and then continued 3 months where almost every article about the dude was negative, i'm glad to see the Garden crowd hasn't forgotten how important he is to the franchise after 2010.

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01-03-2013, 07:03 PM
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Much better effort defensively.

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01-03-2013, 07:04 PM
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I don't like JR Smith. That was a great block.

Knicks feeding off it right now.

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Knicks look good. A little sluggish offensively, and Stat is still trying to force things, but man, EVERYONE is playing real hard on D.

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01-03-2013, 07:25 PM
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Starting to get sloppy. Gotta tighten it up.

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01-03-2013, 07:36 PM
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I've had enough of Brewer.

Hurry back Shump.

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01-03-2013, 07:38 PM
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I've had enough of Brewer.

Hurry back Shump.
Yep. Over the offseason I felt Brewer would be an apt defensive replacement for Shump. Boy, did that turn out to be wrong. Thibodeau should just be coach of the year every year because he can make subpar players look like lockdown defenders.


Anyway, gotta come out fresh after halftime. Looking great on D, but offense is lagging.

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01-03-2013, 08:19 PM
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amar'e is still very rusty

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01-03-2013, 08:26 PM
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Keep this up. This is how we were playing at the beginning of the year. Awesome game so far against an elite team, now close it out.

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This Knicks team is nuts when they're firing on all cylinders. Automatic from behind the arc, guys who can penetrate, and crazy defense.

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