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01-02-2013, 09:33 AM
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20 teams in the playoffs? How could they make that work?

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01-02-2013, 09:55 AM
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20 teams in the playoffs? How could they make that work?
Maybe have a quick best of 3 or 5 series with 12 teams getting byes.

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01-02-2013, 11:08 AM
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Darren Dreger: "a deal is close''.

Knew it from the beginning that it was going to be a last minute deal.. Way too much at stake.

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01-02-2013, 12:35 PM
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Darren Dreger: "a deal is close''.

Knew it from the beginning that it was going to be a last minute deal.. Way too much at stake.
Dreger says IF they don't file the motion in the courts...

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If players don't file disclaimer + have to go to vote again, wouldn't this weaken position? Court would ask..why didn't you file 1st time?



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By not filing, seems to me, a clear sign a deal is close. Wait for PA exec board to decide today.

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01-02-2013, 12:39 PM
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The playoff format is great the way it is and I hope they don't change it
The Leafs haven't made the playoffs in like 8 years, so it's only time they change the rules so that they have a chance.

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01-02-2013, 12:47 PM
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20 teams in the playoffs? How could they make that work?
NHL was pushing last year to change the divisions from six to four. That would mean five teams per division making the post-season.

While some argue that for the majority of the NHL's lifespan that 67% of the teams made the post-season, fact is it ruins the challenge and leads to far more games going to the three point OT/SO instead of completing in regulation.

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01-02-2013, 12:52 PM
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They want 20 teams in the playoffs to increase revenues. I think it's a pretty bad idea. What could happen is the revenues already made by 16 teams will get diluted and they'll be back at square one with longer playoffs and less global interest. They should concentrate on making money while playing 82 games in the scrap markets. The playoffs are perfect the way they are played.

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01-02-2013, 01:27 PM
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They want 20 teams in the playoffs to increase revenues. I think it's a pretty bad idea. What could happen is the revenues already made by 16 teams will get diluted and they'll be back at square one with longer playoffs and less global interest. They should concentrate on making money while playing 82 games in the scrap markets. The playoffs are perfect the way they are played.
They can get the same revenue increase by going from 82 game seasons to 85 game seasons or so.

I mean let's work out the maths.

Say best of five playoffs (average of four games) between teams 7,8,9,10 in each conference. 2 series per conference, 4 series overall, so 16 games added to the total calendar.

Actually, seems like you can get the same revenue increase by going from 82 game seasons to 83 game seasons; maybe 84 games if playoff games bring in twice the revenue of regular season games. This would also be more efficient in that it would only add two days to the hockey calendar.

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01-02-2013, 02:03 PM
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I'm for 20 team playoffs if round 1 is 2 out of 3.

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01-02-2013, 02:05 PM
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They can get the same revenue increase by going from 82 game seasons to 85 game seasons or so.

I mean let's work out the maths.

Say best of five playoffs (average of four games) between teams 7,8,9,10 in each conference. 2 series per conference, 4 series overall, so 16 games added to the total calendar.

Actually, seems like you can get the same revenue increase by going from 82 game seasons to 83 game seasons; maybe 84 games if playoff games bring in twice the revenue of regular season games. This would also be more efficient in that it would only add two days to the hockey calendar.
It isn't a question of math, it's a question of what catches the attention of Americans the most and the answer in their heads is the playoffs. Increasing the amount of games doesn't necessarily increase revenues or profits in this case. They want more people watching not just the same people shelling the same bucks, which would probably translate in an increase of broadcasting fees in the long run.

Edit: Think about it the teams that lose money will lose more with more games. Reducing the amount of games might actually help more. So if you make the playoffs longer that would be an almost necessity.


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01-02-2013, 02:17 PM
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I think a short best of 3 series while giving the top 6 teams in each conference a week off would be exciting.

#7 vs 10 and #8 vs 9

I'm sure NBC would jump on board as well as CBC and TSN.

Last year we would have seen...

TB vs Wash
Ott vs Buf
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SJ vs Dal
LA vs Calgary

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01-03-2013, 07:32 AM
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Howard Bloom (of CTV or CTV sports) keeps insisting there will be an NHL season (he's pretty much guaranteeing one! says the NHL should start on Jan. 19).

(take this with a grain of salt but just felt like sharing!).

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01-03-2013, 07:43 AM
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Howard Bloom (of CTV or CTV sports) keeps insisting there will be an NHL season (he's pretty much guaranteeing one! says the NHL should start on Jan. 19).

(take this with a grain of salt but just felt like sharing!).
So what's his guarantee? His car? I'd take it

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01-03-2013, 10:25 AM
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http://twitter.com/michaelgrange/sta...52208551686144

A couple of encouraging details: #NHL has agreed to two compliance buyouts/team in 2013-14; and variance on contracts in 20% range now

Great news!

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01-03-2013, 10:35 AM
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http://twitter.com/michaelgrange/sta...52208551686144

A couple of encouraging details: #NHL has agreed to two compliance buyouts/team in 2013-14; and variance on contracts in 20% range now

Great news!
Beat me to it!

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Another detail emerging: NHL has upped its compliance buyout offer to 2 per team, up from 1 prior to 2013-14 season.

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01-03-2013, 10:43 AM
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I'm getting excited/optimistic here. All signs are pointing to a season starting up on the 19th, and that would be great. I still wouldn't buy any tickets this year, but if someone wants to take me to a game for free, I wouldn't turn it down.

Also, if they do come to an agreement soon, waiting until the 19th will be so difficult!

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01-03-2013, 11:12 AM
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I'm getting excited/optimistic here. All signs are pointing to a season starting up on the 19th, and that would be great. I still wouldn't buy any tickets this year, but if someone wants to take me to a game for free, I wouldn't turn it down.

Also, if they do come to an agreement soon, waiting until the 19th will be so difficult!
All signs except the ticking clock. That's 16 days until the season theoretically starts. That's very tight. To say the least.

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01-03-2013, 11:15 AM
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i know this is going too far because theres no agreement yet but if theres a deal will there be preseason games or just 7 days of camps and then regular season?

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01-03-2013, 11:18 AM
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i know this is going too far because theres no agreement yet but if theres a deal will there be preseason games or just 7 days of camps and then regular season?
No preseason. There would be a shortened camp and then the season starts up.

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01-03-2013, 11:49 AM
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Gomez good as gone?

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Seems like a no-brainer. Who would MB use the 2nd on?

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Seems like a no-brainer. Who would MB use the 2nd on?
I'd honestly drop Bourque. He deserves to have a second look after his bad season, but 4 years is just too much for a player like him.

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01-03-2013, 12:22 PM
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Seems like a no-brainer. Who would MB use the 2nd on?
I'd vote for Kaberle. Considering Tinordi and Beaulieu in the A right now, a spot or two may open a spot for one of both of them to be the 5th and 6th defensmen.

Markov - Emelin
Pk - Gorges
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I'd imagine signing or trading for a more veteran defensman in this scenario.

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I'd honestly drop Bourque. He deserves to have a second look after his bad season, but 4 years is just too much for a player like him.
Over Kaberle?

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Over Kaberle?
Kaberle is an UFA after 2013/2014 + he's still useful on the PP and our defenceman down in the AHL need time.

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