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12-27-2012, 09:50 PM
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[QUOTE=IU Hawks fan;56847121]Damn, Shaw just got clobbered. Lots of head contact there.


Didn't look that dirty to me and Bollig takes a double minor and the Wolves scored. Two bad penalties first Paradis in the first and Bollig and both lead to Wolves goals.

Hogs took it to the Wolves all night long ... nice win.

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12-27-2012, 10:04 PM
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don't know what thread to put this in - but Scotty Bowman's on twitter @coachwsb (and yes, it's actually him - confirmed by other credible media sources, like Bob McKenzie):


scott bowman ‏@coachwsb
Exciting AHL game @ Rockford tonight 3-2 Rockford Big Crowd Excellent Goaltending. AHL great deal for fans Lots of future NHL ers

https://twitter.com/coachwsb/status/284508644920397825

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12-27-2012, 11:27 PM
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Shaw's got some sweet mittens.
He looked great out there.

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Saad-Toews-Kane
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12-28-2012, 06:51 AM
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Replace Kruger with Stalberg, and that doesn't look so bad sometime in the future. Jimmy Hayes somewhere in there, and TT in a couple of years.

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Damn, Shaw just got clobbered. Lots of head contact there.



Did you hate Billy Gardner when he was doing Hawks games back in the day?
I always liked Gardner

I would love to see him and Pat reunited (I dont like Eddie O and think Konroyd is not much better)

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01-01-2013, 08:44 PM
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Also outside of that one big week ,, Seems Kyle Beach is still nothing much

What a waste of a good pick by Tallon

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Also outside of that one big week ,, Seems Kyle Beach is still nothing much

What a waste of a good pick by Tallon

SSSHHHHH, we don't want that to become conventional wisdom. He's on pace to match his rookie pro year and will be 23 within a week.

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01-02-2013, 10:51 PM
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SSSHHHHH, we don't want that to become conventional wisdom. He's on pace to match his rookie pro year and will be 23 within a week.
He's also spent the majority of the year playing with the likes of Bollig, Paradis, Flick, etc. I'm not Beach's biggest fan, but it's not hard to understand why he's not producing when you look at the lines.

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He's also spent the majority of the year playing with the likes of Bollig, Paradis, Flick, etc. I'm not Beach's biggest fan, but it's not hard to understand why he's not producing when you look at the lines.
He is playing with guys of his caliber ,, Not sure what the issue is

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01-03-2013, 12:37 AM
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I can understand how you don't see the problem with this...

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01-03-2013, 01:14 AM
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Also outside of that one big week ,, Seems Kyle Beach is still nothing much

What a waste of a good pick by Tallon
Beach's problems have nothing to do with hockey. When he feels like playing, hes pretty darn good at what he does.

That being said, its time to give up on the guy. He is what he is.

Myers would have looked good right now...Eberle.....

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01-03-2013, 07:20 AM
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He's also spent the majority of the year playing with the likes of Bollig, Paradis, Flick, etc. I'm not Beach's biggest fan, but it's not hard to understand why he's not producing when you look at the lines.
Isn't that where your showcase studs play? They are grooming Beach to be a 4th liner.

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Myers would have looked good right now...Eberle.....
I'm sure Pittsburgh is kicking themselves for not taking Toews then.

No point in living in the past, not going to change a thing.

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01-03-2013, 12:03 PM
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I am pretty close to giving up on Beach...I thought he would of turned it around this year after having a decent start and a good start/finish last year.

I still think they should give him a 4th line call up to the pros to see if his game is more suited there, but I doubt that happens.

Thanks Tallon, for screwing up the future of this team.

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I still see absolutley no reason Beach cannot be a quality 4th liner.

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01-03-2013, 12:11 PM
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I am pretty close to giving up on Beach...I thought he would of turned it around this year after having a decent start and a good start/finish last year.

I still think they should give him a 4th line call up to the pros to see if his game is more suited there, but I doubt that happens.

Thanks Tallon, for screwing up the future of this team.
I think this is a little over-dramatic, don't you? Future of the club is still looking pretty damn good with the current crop of prospects in place. I'm not a Tallon apologist by any stretch of the imagination but I think people need to get over him and move on and stop finding ways to blame him for everything that happens to this team going forward. He did some good things, did some bad things, as does just about any GM of any team in any sport. It's 2013, he's been gone for four years. Move on.

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01-03-2013, 12:13 PM
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I think this is a little over-dramatic, don't you? Future of the club is still looking pretty damn good with the current crop of prospects in place. I'm not a Tallon apologist by any stretch of the imagination but I think people need to get over him and move on and stop finding ways to blame him for everything that happens to this team going forward. He did some good things, did some bad things, as does just about any GM of any team in any sport. It's 2013, he's been gone for four years. Move on.
If Tallon drafted like an avg GM, we would have quality NHLers on the team right now. Most of the prospects we have are a year or 2 away and were mostly brought in by Bowman and Co.

Tallon had 2 ****** high picks, Skille and Beach, which could of been Eberle and Kopitar.

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01-03-2013, 12:23 PM
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If Tallon drafted like an avg GM, we would have quality NHLers on the team right now. Most of the prospects we have are a year or 2 away and were mostly brought in by Bowman and Co.

Tallon had 2 ****** high picks, Skille and Beach, which could of been Eberle and Kopitar.
You could pick apart every GM in the history of sports like this. How about every GM the year Lidstrom was drafted at the end of the draft? We could go on and on about even the best GM's in the game missing on guys that turned out to be better than their own picks. He was a bad drafter for the most part, I nor really anyone else is going to argue that. To blanket-statement him as the sole screwer-upper (yeah, I just said that) of the future is a bit off. People need to just let it go. He did some good things in his own right but all any detractors want to point out ever is the negative, which there no doubt is plenty of.

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I think this is a little over-dramatic, don't you? Future of the club is still looking pretty damn good with the current crop of prospects in place. I'm not a Tallon apologist by any stretch of the imagination but I think people need to get over him and move on and stop finding ways to blame him for everything that happens to this team going forward. He did some good things, did some bad things, as does just about any GM of any team in any sport. It's 2013, he's been gone for four years. Move on.
He was horrid at draft ,, Really that simple

Toews fell into his lap and Kane was not gonna be passed up by Hawks (Who needed a young American face of franchise)

2 absolutely awful 1st round failures (Skille and Beach) and another who looks very meh (Olsen)

Failed with every other draft pick outside of Hjalmarsson... Every 2nd/3rd rounder he used failed

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01-03-2013, 12:35 PM
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He was horrid at draft ,, Really that simple

Toews fell into his lap and Kane was not gonna be passed up by Hawks (Who needed a young American face of franchise)

2 absolutely awful 1st round failures (Skille and Beach) and another who looks very meh (Olsen)

Failed with every other draft pick outside of Hjalmarsson... Every 2nd/3rd rounder he used failed
Pretty sure I acknowledged the fact that he was a crapper drafter for the most part. I can go ahead and quote it if need be.

And anyone already going "meh" about Olsen, a 22 year old defenseman, loses me in any discussion anyway.

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I am not confident that Olsen's skating will ever improve for him to be more then a #6/7 regular in NHL

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I am not confident that Olsen's skating will ever improve for him to be more then a #6/7 regular in NHL
I agree with this.

He doesn't have bad instincts, but he's not fast enough for the NHL, and I don't think he ever will be.

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Very well may not. I saw enough of him in his stint with the Hawks that there's something there worth allowing to develop and be patient with, especially given the position and age. Not going to pull the plug on a 22 year old defenseman.

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Very well may not. I saw enough of him in his stint with the Hawks that there's something there worth allowing to develop and be patient with, especially given the position and age. Not going to pull the plug on a 22 year old defenseman.
No one's pulling the plug on him yet

But being "meh" about a 22-year-old 1st round pick who you don't think will ever move past the bottom pair at the NHL level sounds pretty fair to me.

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