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01-03-2013, 09:37 AM
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And...Yakupov doesn't score in the SO.

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01-03-2013, 09:44 AM
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Don't care what anyone says, Yakupov looked sensational today, if he plays like that every game I don't care if he puts up 0s the whole year. Zharkov looked great too.

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01-03-2013, 09:45 AM
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I expect Canada to come out flying after getting embarrassed in the semis and unfortunately leaving Yak and the host team medal-less. But, knowing Canada, they'll underestimate Russia and get embarrassed again LOL.

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Ugh. Just not worth the early wake up time. The Oil prospects were damn good - RNH bettered by a post, of all things, Yakupov was, as another poster called him, sensational (that rush at the end of OT... wow) and Zharkov was flash and dash all night - I don't know why the coaching staff refused to play him 4 v 4.

Both teams got beat by a horrid combination of a hot goaltender and a system that was designed to break the other team. Props to America and Sweden, but I'm cheering for neither.

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01-03-2013, 09:56 AM
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Best game of the wjc for yak, where he showed his skills, looking forward to the loosers game were we follow both of our 1 picks, that will be a game. Props to sweden reign champions, played the pants of russia in first period and could have closed the game there. Sweden have also their 3 best defenders gone and instead they take in a born 95 robert hagg and he was one of the best d today, copy and paste the swedish youth program

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01-03-2013, 09:58 AM
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Absolutely pathetic performance. The whole team looked like they had lead weights in their skates.

And the coaching.... good god. There should have been a timeout called before the first USA goal. A team comes out that flat you have to let them know.

And then pulling the goalie after it's way too late... just like Renney. Not that it would have mattered, Johnathan Quick could have been in net and we still would have lost.

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01-03-2013, 10:07 AM
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Hockey Canada better get a handle on their program because this is getting embarrassing, in 3 years we haven't had a dominate team, or a properly picked squad, too much weight put on previous play in other event and not on the tryouts, without the NHL players this team could have placed out of the medal round. I could care less about the bronze game, here's hoping yakupov leads Russia to victory


Also the coach favoritism for players like Murphy, he's just a terrible player, I'd rather have 6-7 solid defenseman instead these pp specialists
Well put.

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01-03-2013, 10:13 AM
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It's all been said. Came out flat and stupid. Subban wasn't the reason we lost, but he didn't stand on his head either.

Just my opinion, but I believe that if Strome scores at the midway point (when he was in alone on Gibson and tried to go 5-hole), the rest of the game would have been very different. That would have made it 3-1 with like 15 minutes to go in the 2nd. Gibson came up huge, and the US came back and went up 4-0 2 minutes later. I think THAT save sealed Canada's fate in this abortion of a game.

Oh well.

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01-03-2013, 10:22 AM
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Murphy was horrible. The entire team forgot how to play. Couldn't keep up with speed that was coming in.

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01-03-2013, 10:32 AM
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Well put.
I dunno about this year. I usually use this excuse every year too that they should/could have picked better players. I don't think that was the case this year though. I think on paper they had the best squad they could have had other than Murray being injured.

The fact is the guys that were selected were just brutal. I've seen Murphy getting smashed in here and rightfully so, this tournament has shown through how much of a one-dimensional d-man he is and why the coaching continually kept putting him out there is beyond me. Futher more to that Hamilton was a joke for much of this tournament imo and I have no idea how Huberdeau was named the outstanding player in his CHL's team memorial cup win. Maybe it's just on the world level but I haven't seen anything from this kid compared to the hype machine at TSN. I think he will be a bit better than the Kadri bust area but at this point I'm not expecting a whole lot from him for an NHLer.

Really going back to the main point it seemed that if RNH wasn't on this team Canada likely would have had a date in the quarter finals this year. Seemed hte team relied on him every game to generate offense. Only other player to generate offense in this tourney was Strome. Then you look at a squad like the Americans where Galchenyuk was the go-to guy but he didn't need to be the guy every game. That team as a whole stepped up the entire tournament. They had a game plan and stuck to it.

Oh well it's just another blown year for Canada at one of these tournaments. I have no idea who will take this team by the reigns next year. It's looking like Drouin will be the man, which isn't a bad thing but I don't know what else he will have for a supporting cast. They need to get some gritty kids that can get the job done physically, it shocks me every year when the Jenners, Lipons and Camara's lighten up on their physical role because they have no idea how to do it responsibly and without taking huge penalties.

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01-03-2013, 10:35 AM
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Murphy was horrible. The entire team forgot how to play. Couldn't keep up with speed that was coming in.
The Americans had a fantastic game plan I'll give them that for using their d-men on every rush. But I don't understand how the Canadians didn't have an answer for it over the course of 60 minutes. Seemed that their response was to just send Murphy back out there everytime.

Did the coaches not know that Murphy was a one-dimensional d-man before the tourney?

Were they trying to make sure his career moving forward everyone would know that he's just one-dimensional?

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01-03-2013, 11:18 AM
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Murphy being used as much as he was left me baffled. He could have stopped the first Gaudreau goal but he bit on the toe drag and made some half-assed stick check attempt. He makes a bad pinch, US gets an odd-man break, he's out there again a minute later. He also has zero points, I believe. Useless offensively and even more useless defensively.

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01-03-2013, 11:30 AM
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As a westerner and WHL fan I could see this coming. They continue to bring Team OHL to the world juniors and they continue to lose

lets go back to a large WHL lineup next year and bring the gold back home

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As a westerner and WHL fan I could see this coming. They continue to bring Team OHL to the world juniors and they continue to lose

lets go back to a large WHL lineup next year and bring the gold back home
Yeah even though a bunch of the WHLers on this team performed well, there were a handful that left me shaking my head like Reinhart and Reilly had his ups and downs. McNeil was pretty much invisible.

I liked Ratties game all tournament though.

Only d-men that I thought played well were Harrington and Oulette.

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01-03-2013, 11:36 AM
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Sad, well the team was truly flat. I can't help but notice that Subban clearly did not match Gibson.

Though Cleary it was more than his fault.

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01-03-2013, 11:43 AM
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Yeah even though a bunch of the WHLers on this team performed well, there were a handful that left me shaking my head like Reinhart and Reilly had his ups and downs. McNeil was pretty much invisible.

I liked Ratties game all tournament though.

Only d-men that I thought played well were Harrington and Oulette.
I really wasn't that impressed with Hamilton the whole tourney. I thought he was going to look dominant out there, but really, it looked like Jones is already the better D man. Murphy was bad the whole tournament, supplied almost no offence and was brutal in his own end.

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01-03-2013, 11:49 AM
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Grigorenko's had a pretty great tournament
but just like any other Russian hes had nothing to show for it.
Funny how after seemingly doing nothing all tourney Yakupov still finished 2nd on his team in scoring.

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I really wasn't that impressed with Hamilton the whole tourney. I thought he was going to look dominant out there, but really, it looked like Jones is already the better D man. Murphy was bad the whole tournament, supplied almost no offence and was brutal in his own end.
Yeah those two I was really dissapointed with as well.

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Yeah those two I was really dissapointed with as well.
Defence was the biggest disappointment with out doubt. They talked about how our D was suppose to be dominant. Yet they clearly were not. Rienhart was not that impressive either. I thought Reilly looked good, but, again offensively, his D was bad. Which would have been ok if a guy like Rienhart would have been able to bail him out. Any way, just not that impressed. Subban had two solid games and **** the bed today. Why didn't he **** the bed in the round robin and save his great game for today? sigh.

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01-03-2013, 12:03 PM
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Trouba,McCabe and Jones were much better then any of the D. Wotherspoon was Canada's best D man today and he really shouldn't be.

Canada had no bruisers on the backend. If your going to bring Rielly then there is no need to bring Murphy.

Were was the energy line? No agitators or guys trying to really hit hard on the forecheck besides Lipon. I would have brought Leipsic and Lowry on the front end and Dumba,Siemans on the back end.

I would have dropped Murphy and Harrington. Dropped both 17 year olds off although they played good. Would have had a line of Leipsic,Lowry and Lipon and gave them the go ahead to reap havoc. Stopped the team from playing fancy pants hockey and go back to smash mouth throw it at the net and jam the front.

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I would have dropped Murphy and Harrington. Dropped both 17 year olds off although they played good. Would have had a line of Leipsic,Lowry and Lipon and gave them the go ahead to reap havoc. Stopped the team from playing fancy pants hockey and go back to smash mouth throw it at the net and jam the front.
I dont think you could get away with that at this tournament with this reffing. Smash mouth hockey gets you in the penalty box and possibly 5 minute majors. It's really tough trying to play with emotion but not crossing the line.

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but just like any other Russian hes had nothing to show for it.
Funny how after seemingly doing nothing all tourney Yakupov still finished 2nd on his team in scoring.
If he had heart and spoke to Jim Matheson he would have finished first. Lousy Russian.

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I dont think you could get away with that at this tournament with this reffing. Smash mouth hockey gets you in the penalty box and possibly 5 minute majors. It's really tough trying to play with emotion but not crossing the line.
I agree, which is why I am at a loss for an explanation. Canada had so many skilled forwards and puck moving D. yet, they just didn't show up. The biggest factors I saw as just poor positional defence, which is a shame, since Reinhard, Hamilton, Harrington are all suppose to be so good at that. THe offensive D men didn't contribute much, Murphy nothing and Rielly really just had the one good game.

On top of that poor Goaltending, there is just no way to get around it, Subban was not as good as he should have been.

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Congrats on the win and please be gentle as we all have to see it and most of us are already in pretty poor spirits with the lopsided loss.

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