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01-03-2013, 12:54 PM
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01-03-2013, 12:55 PM
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no brainer its gotta be kaberle.
bourque is still a solid player and the cap hit isnt that bad its just the term and i still believe he will be a good player for us.

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01-03-2013, 01:02 PM
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no brainer its gotta be kaberle.
bourque is still a solid player and the cap hit isnt that bad its just the term and i still believe he will be a good player for us.
Totally agree. Kabs has to be the odd man out. Bourque is younger and a proven goal scorer. Kabs is older and clearly on the down side of his career. 5 years ago, I'd have kept Kabs.

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01-03-2013, 01:16 PM
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no brainer its gotta be kaberle.
bourque is still a solid player and the cap hit isnt that bad its just the term and i still believe he will be a good player for us.
If Kaberle bounces back and Markov stays healthy you don't have to buy out Kaberle, you can probably trade him at the deadline or in the summer for a pick.


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01-03-2013, 01:21 PM
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Not sure how this is seen as positive.....NHLPA just want to test the NHL after not filing the disclaimer. Bettman, and his ego, probably furious that the NHLPA uses that against him is probably clearly showing he doesn't agree with those methods. So everybody is going as far as they can....and it will stop once again.

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01-03-2013, 01:50 PM
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Not sure how this is seen as positive.....NHLPA just want to test the NHL after not filing the disclaimer. Bettman, and his ego, probably furious that the NHLPA uses that against him is probably clearly showing he doesn't agree with those methods. So everybody is going as far as they can....and it will stop once again.
This is definitely not the time for ego's and posturing.

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01-03-2013, 03:34 PM
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Not sure how this is seen as positive.....NHLPA just want to test the NHL after not filing the disclaimer. Bettman, and his ego, probably furious that the NHLPA uses that against him is probably clearly showing he doesn't agree with those methods. So everybody is going as far as they can....and it will stop once again.
That's all you really have to say.

The NHL has a drop dead date. The question is whether the players believe it or not. Its an extremely high stakes game of poker that will be solved in the final hour, one way or the other.

Until we get there, you can't read too much into this situation other than both parties trying to squeeze whatever they can get through the threat of running out of time.

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01-03-2013, 05:45 PM
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On variance, NHL has proposed 60 per cent limit. Therefore, lowest salary of any multi-year deal must be within that amount of the highest.

If I understand, it means if you front load with 10 mil the first 5 years, the smallest year has to be 6 mil. We'll still see front loaded deals but it will be much more logical.

Say a big star gets 10 10 10 10 10 then 8 6 6 so an 8 year deal with 8.75 mil cap hit.

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01-03-2013, 05:48 PM
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On CBA length: NHLPA willing to go to 10 years with opt-out after Year 7; NHL at 10 years with opt-out after Year 8

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01-03-2013, 05:49 PM
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Still 7-8 unresolved issues between both sides but big ones are Year 2 cap, length of player contracts, pensions...

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01-03-2013, 05:53 PM
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If Kaberle bounces back and Markov stays healthy you don't have to buy out Kaberle, you can probably trade him at the deadline or in the summer for a pick.

Team's more than ever can't afford taking risks with players. Kaberle is roughly a 10 percent heavier anchor than he was .

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01-03-2013, 06:15 PM
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Lol....

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01-03-2013, 06:44 PM
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Lol....
For sure that's worth dismantling the union... and/or losing an entire season... FOR SURE!

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01-03-2013, 07:26 PM
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I'd vote for Kaberle. Considering Tinordi and Beaulieu in the A right now, a spot or two may open a spot for one of both of them to be the 5th and 6th defensmen.

Markov - Emelin
Pk - Gorges
Tinordi - Beaulieu
Diaz

I'd imagine signing or trading for a more veteran defensman in this scenario.
We will definitely get the 1st overall pick with that defense, nice work.

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01-03-2013, 07:41 PM
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We will definitely get the 1st overall pick with that defense, nice work.
dude love the banksy avatar, have you seen exit through the gift shop?

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01-03-2013, 07:51 PM
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This is definitely not the time for ego's and posturing.
Quite the opposite actually...the closer to the deadline, the more room for ego trips and posturing.

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01-03-2013, 07:56 PM
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dude love the banksy avatar, have you seen exit through the gift shop?
I think I saw a documentary about him but don't remember much. Is ETTGS pretty good?

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01-03-2013, 08:29 PM
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This lockout leave me puzzle. To me it seems both part are trying to quantify the share of revenue they will have in 8 years base on different views and numbers Maybe they can post each part's formula here and the hockey mob could solve the conflict Than again I still believe in Santa Clause and the Bogeyman T

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01-03-2013, 08:36 PM
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So in resume, they came to an agreement about 15 to 20 points and still has to resolve only 5 to 7 points. Problem is that those 5-7 points represent 95% of the whole freakin lockout....Yet, what will happen if they threw that season. When do they start talking again? In next December? And why the hell would any side give up? Don't they all realize that it's lose-lose at this point, so let's do the best losing scenario?

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01-03-2013, 08:42 PM
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They won't throw the season so you can unbunch your panties.

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01-03-2013, 08:50 PM
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So in resume, they came to an agreement about 15 to 20 points and still has to resolve only 5 to 7 points. Problem is that those 5-7 points represent 95% of the whole freakin lockout....Yet, what will happen if they threw that season. When do they start talking again? In next December? And why the hell would any side give up? Don't they all realize that it's lose-lose at this point, so let's do the best losing scenario?
How many walnuts are hidden can both parts still find out were they hid them. Next time around they should make a Texas Holdem tournament with players and owners it would be more entertaining and maybe more effective way to settle things.

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01-03-2013, 10:30 PM
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I think I saw a documentary about him but don't remember much. Is ETTGS pretty good?
Yeah the documentary is great, don't read anything about it as it'll ruin the experience. Just go for it.

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01-04-2013, 02:03 AM
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Lol....
No kidding. if this issue is comparable to the rest of the unresolved issues then give me a break.

Still, I believe all the 11th hour talk and all these little piddly things will be resolved but if there's no hockey this year then really it's just pathetic.

I'm 99.9% sure there will be though.

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01-04-2013, 06:22 AM
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Its a mather of who is conceiving the most... or the less.. its a battle of egos.. at the from head to toe nails. Lol.

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