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Flyers' 2013 regular season schedule (posts #1 and #552). CBA officially ratified.

View Poll Results: How will you show your displeasure with the lockout when NHL hockey returns?
I will not attend any live games 8 10.96%
I will not attend live games, nor will I purchase NHL merchandise 22 30.14%
I will attend live games, but fewer games than in previous years 5 6.85%
I have season's tickets, but I will spend less on merchandise and concessions 3 4.11%
I have season's tickets and I will skip the first game 1 1.37%
I will be so happy that hockey is back that I will attend as many or more games than usual 14 19.18%
Purplemonkeydishwasher 20 27.40%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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01-03-2013, 02:50 PM
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This is retarded. The buyouts are retarded. they were created by the people who want them. nobody told these owners and g.m's to give that much money to these players. Pensions are another joke. When your a multi millionaire, money sorta starts to cease to exist. you want something, you have the money. for what they are their a joke. 45 thousand in the states, 20 thousand in canada. their trying to reach a middle ground i guess for the fourth liners who play a year or two. That in itself is just stupid to continue a lockout over. As far as buying out bryz after one year......duh. we need a goalie. he's a good goalie. If you blame him for everything, you'll blame every goalie for everything forever. our team was in transition. wake up.

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Players are not happy with the league because they tried to sneak a changing in the language for (HRR) hiding money. They changed it to make the penalty less severe. No wonder the trust level is not there.
If something like this is going to end talks and in consequence kill the season Bettmann should be beat up.

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01-03-2013, 03:47 PM
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Didn't see the poll

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Players are not happy with the league because they tried to sneak a changing in the language for (HRR) hiding money. They changed it to make the penalty less severe. No wonder the trust level is not there.
This I doubt. It just sounds like Fehr is trying to stall the negotiations.

The NHL and PA were originally trying to change the HRR terms but the NHL dropped it in their 2nd or 3rd proposal.

It didn't come out now that the league tried to change the terms? Yeah, not buying that

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01-03-2013, 03:55 PM
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This lockout is changing everyone. Can't wait til it's over and @tpanotchCSN files disclaimer of interest against Wells Fargo pregame meal.
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right now, the larger meeting of the two sides has not happened. and it may not. obviously, neither is smitten w/each other right now
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kirshna, you get the feeling Fehr has had about enough of bettman and owners that he is at the point of just saying FU and take it to court?

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01-03-2013, 03:56 PM
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This I doubt. It just sounds like Fehr is trying to stall the negotiations.

The NHL and PA were originally trying to change the HRR terms but the NHL dropped it in their 2nd or 3rd proposal.

It didn't come out now that the league tried to change the terms? Yeah, not buying that
It's been pretty widely reported they tried to reduce the penalty and the NHLPA became alarmed.

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It's been pretty widely reported they tried to reduce the penalty and the NHLPA became alarmed.
Were all of those sources from players?

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kirshna, you get the feeling Fehr has had about enough of bettman and owners that he is at the point of just saying FU and take it to court?
I've felt that way since the beginning. It's one of his only tactics.

Stall.

When all else fails? Take it to court.

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01-03-2013, 04:07 PM
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I've felt that way since the beginning. It's one of his only tactics.

Stall.

When all else fails? Take it to court.
I wonder if fehr will be like, here gary here is where we stand, we made concessions in year to from 70 to 65, and other issues.

This is where we stand, call me when you are ready to accept or see you in court.



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Were all of those sources from players?
Who knows? Twitter media people.

It seems to be really well established that today has mostly been spent hashing that issue out, though; NHL tried to change the penalties to be lenient, players objected strongly, a while later the NHL changed back to the original position. Yay, waste of time.

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Still unclear when both sides will resume talks. Next steps still being determined...
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Looks like they are taking a dinner break, not sure what time they will resume tonight

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01-03-2013, 04:40 PM
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A friend of mine said the lockout is close to ending. Is this true?

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i voted option 2..

but im not ruling out getting whats left of gamecenter to watch the season as it may be.. but thats it.

and thats only cuz i wanna see Leights play. if it werent for that, i'd easily have no problem not spending a dime on NHL

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i voted option 2..

but im not ruling out getting whats left of gamecenter to watch the season as it may be.. but thats it.

and thats only cuz i wanna see Leights play. if it werent for that, i'd easily have no problem not spending a dime on NHL
wtf?

I won't be watching any game he's starting in

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i voted option 2..

but im not ruling out getting whats left of gamecenter to watch the season as it may be.. but thats it.

and thats only cuz i wanna see Leights play. if it werent for that, i'd easily have no problem not spending a dime on NHL
Slapstick fan?

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A friend of mine said the lockout is close to ending. Is this true?
Close but no telling what happens now

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I think they're close to breaking the owners. If Fehr gets Bettman to go past the drop dead date, it will be chaos among the owners. Putting disclaimer to vote takes this to the drop dead date of January 11. Bettman could have called their bluff on this weeks ago if he simply canceled the season back then, because re-voting every 2 weeks would have flushed out the union.

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They are revoting now and it ends at 6 pm on saturday

Brooks claiming the NHL waited until it expired and then worsened the deal but brooks is a clown

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They are revoting now and it ends at 6 pm on saturday

Brooks claiming the NHL waited until it expired and then worsened the deal but brooks is a clown
The NHL has a history of doing this sort of thing, why would that be unlikely?

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Will attend the same amount/more games.

Not having hockey made me realize how awful football and basketball are.

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Belief within PA that Bettman/Batterman pulled bait and switch after initial disclaimer deadline passed
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Ugh RT @mdandenault25: The nhl and nhlpa talks r dead for now...look for the players to disclaim

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The NHL has a history of doing this sort of thing, why would that be unlikely?
Because until somebody else confirms it, I don't believe anything Brooks says. He's the biggest PA shill.

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I voted option 2. I will obviously follow the season and root for the Flyers, but I am not going to any games or buying any new jerseys or anything like that (however, if the season does start, I should have my signed Giroux jersey shortly thereafter according to CSNPhilly). We shall see.

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