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01-03-2013, 02:13 PM
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Bomber... I love the Rocky analogy.

And it's surprisingly accurate...

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So they lose one game and they sucked for the entire tournament? Right...
The team didn't have a whole lot of chemistry or cohesion at all. That sloppiness was pretty evident against Slovakia and Germany from the outset.

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01-03-2013, 02:23 PM
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Bomber... I love the Rocky analogy.

And it's surprisingly accurate...
Which part?

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Ryan Murphy < Komisarek

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Bomber... I love the Rocky analogy.

And it's surprisingly accurate...
Any time.

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Bomber... I love the Rocky analogy.

And it's surprisingly accurate...
If I remember correctly, Rocky didn't beat down Drago from start to finish in that movie. If he had, then yes it'd be accurate. I also don't think the USA was as big of underdogs going into the game as Rocky was to Drago.

But maybe I'm over-thinking this...

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01-03-2013, 02:38 PM
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If I remember correctly, Rocky didn't beat down Drago from start to finish in that movie. If he had, then yes it'd be accurate. I also don't think the USA was as big of underdogs going into the game as Rocky was to Drago.

But maybe I'm over-thinking this...
It's a dumb analogy.

All Teams train and are spoiled pretty much the same.

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01-03-2013, 02:41 PM
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It's a dumb analogy.

All Teams train and are spoiled pretty much the same.
Perhaps you need to watch Rocky again.

Canada was cocky, thought that they would overload their roster with talent, tanning lamps, and personal chefs, and got their butts kicked.

I shouldn't even have to point this out but Ivan Drago looks like a bleached Boone Jenner.

Again, anyone who has seen Rocky 4 as many times as me would have known that and how identical the story line and plots are.

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01-03-2013, 02:44 PM
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01-03-2013, 03:00 PM
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So, Morgan Rielly, as the youngest dman on Canada has been on for a total of 1 goal against for the entire tournament including pre-season games.
Don't forget when Canada played Slovakia and was lossing 2-0, it was Morgan Rielly who scored their 1st goal of that game which started the comeback and had a total of 3 points.

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01-03-2013, 03:53 PM
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This is not coddle time. We expect gold. There's no reason why we can't achieve it. Sorry kids, but our "boo's" are for you. Win period.

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Rielly was playing with Murphy most of the tournament. People thought Murphy looked good,so Rielly must have been doing something right because Murphy is awful. he is right Rielly is being used in a different role, he didn't lug the puck up as much or even have the puck on his stick as much... Murphy had it way more often than Morgan and would usually mess everything up. I didn't watch todays game but id say watching all the D carefully harrington played really well and Rielly was probably the 2nd best... then oulette/wotherspoon then reinhart/hamilton/murphy.

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01-03-2013, 03:58 PM
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What is up with people blaming Subban? Did they miss the games we played in this tournament or something? In the summer series? Jesus the kid is a stud, the skaters let him down tonight.

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01-03-2013, 04:26 PM
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What is up with people blaming Subban? Did they miss the games we played in this tournament or something? In the summer series? Jesus the kid is a stud, the skaters let him down tonight.
He was shaky in 3 of the 5 games. Germany, Slovakia and U.S v2. Not sure if you only evaluate goaltenders based on wins and losses, but he was inconsistent.

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01-03-2013, 04:28 PM
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He was shaky in 3 of the 5 games. Germany, Slovakia and U.S v2. Not sure if you only evaluate goaltenders based on wins and losses, but he was inconsistent.
Can't blame him in the game today at all. The team played horrible for him. He played in the games that mattered.

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01-03-2013, 04:34 PM
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When the going got tough, Spott picked the wrong horses to run with. It's as simple as that.

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Can't blame him in the game today at all. The team played horrible for him. He played in the games that mattered.
Goal #4 was the back-breaker today. Not a great angle. I don't blame him for the other three, but you need a save on that fourth goal to keep your team in it. Bad time for a odorous goal allowed.

Obviously the entire loss doesn't all fall on Subban. But to say he played like a stud this tournament is an overstatement, which is why I commented.

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Goal #4 was the back-breaker today. Not a great angle. I don't blame him for the other three, but you need a save on that fourth goal to keep your team in it. Bad time for a odorous goal allowed.

Obviously the entire loss doesn't all fall on Subban. But to say he played like a stud this tournament is an overstatement, which is why I commented.
To even complain about a 4th goal is the problem.

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01-03-2013, 04:44 PM
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It's a dumb analogy.

All Teams train and are spoiled pretty much the same.
What makes his analogy dumb is thinking looking after basic biology means someone is being spoiled.

I'm sure leaving a bunch of 17 - 19 year olds to feed themselves at McD is the only thing that kept them from winning gold. If only the powers that be had access to such brilliant minds!

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So, Morgan Rielly, as the youngest dman on Canada has been on for a total of 1 goal against for the entire tournament including pre-season games.
This is a good point but overstated. After Murphy, Rielly got the most sheltered minutes against other team top lines. He definitely wasnt flawless in his own zone and didnt live up to the hype leaf fans and the media were giving.

I would say he and Hamilton both werent bad but given their hype they both were probably the biggest disappointments. Only people who havent followed Murphy since being drafted had high hopes for him, most people knew he would be crappy.

But I would say Rielly and Hamilton were still the third and fourth (pretty even) best D on Canada behind Ouellet and Harrington. If Spott wasnt coaching it probably wouldve been Rielly and Ouellet on the PP after a couple games not Murphy and Hamilton so that may have changed with a different coach though. But still a player of Riellys hype should have grasped the opportunities he got and forced the coach's hand to give him the big offensive minutes

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01-03-2013, 05:07 PM
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When the going got tough, Spott picked the wrong horses to run with. It's as simple as that.
Adam Lowry would have been perfect for this team. We need more GRIT. Grind it out! That said, Gibby was fantastic for USA. He stole the game.

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01-03-2013, 05:12 PM
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Never really saw Canada as winning the tournament this year. In there pre tourny games they looked average, nothing special. For the team tog o undefeated in the round robin was a shock to me, thought for sure they would drop at least one game to either Russia or the USA.

Cannot fault Subban today, just sloppy plays around his net. Canada as a whole played like **** and I think it stems from there coach. My biggest problem with Spott is that he basically refused to give any other tender a glance, I understand that you want your goalie to get a groove but to start a goalie that looked shaky in the pretournament games and first 2 in the tourny and continue you with him is moronic. I would have liked to see Binnington get the start against Slovakia.

As for Reiley the kid is 18 years old and was Canada's top offensive dmen playing limited minutes. I think he will grow into an excellent defender for the leafs.

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Never really saw Canada as winning the tournament this year.
They pretty much killed their chances when they selected the coach. Spott is even worse than I thought he was.... and I thought he was pretty bad....

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Canada as a whole played like **** and I think it stems from there coach.
Gibby was the difference & USA simply outplayed us. One game. One win.

Canada could not get anything going, so housley prepared them well. I do agree that Bing should have played.

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