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01-02-2013, 10:28 PM
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Yeah, Bertuzzi's hands are exceptional, Kassian has to catch up in that aspect. Very nice pass there though, looks like he almost could have been trying to bank it off the goalie though
Was wondering that as well. Though if he was I don't think he puts that much pepper on it.

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01-02-2013, 10:37 PM
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Sometimes it helps to have some perspective:

Thread on Chris Kreider

Drafted 19th overall in 2009. Currently ranked 8.5C by HF and considered a lock to be a 50 point forward in the NHL, if not a star according to some. Has 11 points in 31 games, good for being tied for 9th place in scoring amongst Whale forwards (2 D are also ahead of him).

I know stats aren't everything, but I think it's an interesting contrast to how Kassian (7.0B) and Schroeder (7.0C) are thought of.

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01-03-2013, 02:00 AM
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Yeah, Bertuzzi's hands are exceptional, Kassian has to catch up in that aspect. Very nice pass there though, looks like he almost could have been trying to bank it off the goalie though
No he doesn't.



Kassian also has a heavy shot, something Bertuzzi never had. Bertuzzi went on a goal scoring craze one season when he scored 46 by primarily pushing off the defender in front of the net and tapping it in. However, the league banned this act and Bertuzzi's goal output drastically reduced.

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01-03-2013, 09:20 AM
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No he doesn't.



Kassian also has a heavy shot, something Bertuzzi never had. Bertuzzi went on a goal scoring craze one season when he scored 46 by primarily pushing off the defender in front of the net and tapping it in. However, the league banned this act and Bertuzzi's goal output drastically reduced.
And thank God. The tiny one-handed push off was ruining hockey by adding too much offense. It's not like defenders are allowed to mug people with two-handed cross-checks to reduce offense.

Bettman saved the day.

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01-03-2013, 09:59 AM
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I saw a few requests for the Archibald hit from last week on Andrew Shaw. Here it is:


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01-03-2013, 11:00 AM
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I saw a few requests for the Archibald hit from last week on Andrew Shaw. Here it is:
What a great hit. Archibald didn't even get a chance to defend himself there though...there were two guys right on him. I don't blame him for turtling a bit there.

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01-03-2013, 11:03 AM
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What a great hit. Archibald didn't even get a chance to defend himself there though...there were two guys right on him. I don't blame him for turtling a bit there.
kinda unfair to get mugged when you throw a perfect hit

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01-03-2013, 01:52 PM
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And thank God. The tiny one-handed push off was ruining hockey by adding too much offense. It's not like defenders are allowed to mug people with two-handed cross-checks to reduce offense.

Bettman saved the day.
Agreed times a thousand, its not like net battles haven't been going on for the better part of the history of the NHL.

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01-03-2013, 02:09 PM
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After watching that replay how can anyone expect Kassian to jump in? He's not even in frame and by the time he would have got there the refs would have been inbetween Bollig and himself which negate the Wolves on a PP (at least that's what I'm assuming)

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And thank God. The tiny one-handed push off was ruining hockey by adding too much offense. It's not like defenders are allowed to mug people with two-handed cross-checks to reduce offense.

Bettman saved the day.
Ugh, that still drives me crazy to think about. Crazy.

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01-03-2013, 02:18 PM
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kinda unfair to get mugged when you throw a perfect hit
Agreed... not sure when this new trend started but it seems nobody can make a big and clean hit anymore, if you're going to have to defend yourself afterwards. Seems like the line between clean and dirty hits is being blurred. It's almost like you might as well make it dirty and really hurt them if the consequences are going to be the same anyway. It's not how I want our players to play, but after seeing what's happened to the Nucks in the playoffs and here in the AHL, you wonder with nothing getting called when they should...

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01-03-2013, 02:39 PM
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wow that was a great hit


no reason for kassian to jump in there and im glad he didnt bollig is a goon

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01-03-2013, 03:41 PM
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Bollig is a piece of garbage... not surprised he is apart of the Blackhawks org.

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01-03-2013, 04:53 PM
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After a slow start, Schroeder's got 15pts in his last 20gp. Not too shabby. I think he'll be good for the Canucks when he comes up to play this year.

Tanev's also been on a huge offensive spike. After going pointless in his first 5, he's now got 11pts in his last 21, including 3 multi-point nights.

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Agreed... not sure when this new trend started but it seems nobody can make a big and clean hit anymore, if you're going to have to defend yourself afterwards. Seems like the line between clean and dirty hits is being blurred. It's almost like you might as well make it dirty and really hurt them if the consequences are going to be the same anyway. It's not how I want our players to play, but after seeing what's happened to the Nucks in the playoffs and here in the AHL, you wonder with nothing getting called when they should...
The game got so fast that even the players have a hard time knowing exactly what happened. I'd rather jump in for a guy on a clean hit than be regretting not getting in there on a dirty one.

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01-03-2013, 04:59 PM
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The game got so fast that even the players have a hard time knowing exactly what happened. I'd rather jump in for a guy on a clean hit than be regretting not getting in there on a dirty one.
the ideal situation would be if the refs and league were quick and ruthless about destroying the careers of routinely dirty ****heads to the point where players didn't feel the need to fight after every hit. the slowest part of the game is post-hit where everyone needs to defend their teammates and the refs have to pull everyone apart and getting rid of that would drastically change the flow of the game, probably for the better

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01-03-2013, 05:01 PM
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Bollig is a piece of garbage... not surprised he is apart of the Blackhawks org.
blackhawks play that "good solid canadian" style of overreacting to clean hits

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01-03-2013, 05:45 PM
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Great hit, even better that it was Shaw. Laid him right out. Clean hit, too.

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Ugh, that still drives me crazy to think about. Crazy.
Still irks me, too.

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Pretty cowardly of Bolig to jump the guy when he's the third man in.

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http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1615...-admirals.html Both broadcasters in the same booth? thats weird.

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Schroeder not with Kassian anymore. Wow. 3 goals for that line in 1.5 games and this is the result... really?

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http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1615...-admirals.html Both broadcasters in the same booth? thats weird.
Ugh, it's making my head hurt.

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Schroeder not with Kassian anymore. Wow. 3 goals for that line in 1.5 games and this is the result... really?
Kassian is scratched. Nagging injury.

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