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01-04-2013, 11:36 AM
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Rarity: D-man scores, two d-men gets assists

I can't name an example just like this, but how rare it is that a defenseman scores a goal that is assisted by two other defensemen? I could see this happening for example during penalty kill or without a goalie (have three very talented offensive d-men, using one of them as the extra attacker).

When was the last time this occurred in NHL?

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Could also be a situation in which a D man passes to his partner, goes off for a change, partner carries it up ice, then passes to the fresh d man who scores.

Probably about as rare as a 3 on 5 shorthanded goal-pure speculation though.

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Could also be a situation in which a D man passes to his partner, goes off for a change, partner carries it up ice, then passes to the fresh d man who scores.

Probably about as rare as a 3 on 5 shorthanded goal-pure speculation though.
I think this your example is more likely one than mine.

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Does a Dman who occationally lines up on the wing count? I think Belak once scored with assists going to Kaberle and McCabe...but he was playing the wing that game.

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Does a Dman who occationally lines up on the wing count? I think Belak once scored with assists going to Kaberle and McCabe...but he was playing the wing that game.
How does it actually go in NHL, are you forced to name the positions? I mean, was Belak officially a left wing in that game?

Actually to take this even further, where are you forced to name your skater X as a certain spot player?

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Pretty sure this happened last season. I want to say in a Blackhawks game with one of the defenseman playing wing (screening the goalie) on the PP. I'll have to see if I can find an actual reference to it though.


Found the box score http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore...gid=2011111304

Montador from Leddy and Keith.


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Pretty sure this happened last season. I want to say in a Blackhawks game with one of the defenseman playing wing (screening the goalie) on the PP. I'll have to see if I can find an actual reference to it though.


Found the box score http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore...gid=2011111304

Montador from Leddy and Keith.
I think Chara had a similar thing happen with the Sens when they would park him in front of the net

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Pretty sure this happened last season. I want to say in a Blackhawks game with one of the defenseman playing wing (screening the goalie) on the PP. I'll have to see if I can find an actual reference to it though.


Found the box score http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore...gid=2011111304

Montador from Leddy and Keith.
Thanks! Happy to know that it is not insanely rare.

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Does a Dman who occationally lines up on the wing count? I think Belak once scored with assists going to Kaberle and McCabe...but he was playing the wing that game.
I wouldn't count that if he played wing at the time. Just me though.

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I wouldn't count that if he played wing at the time. Just me though.
It would be very tough then, because you could also "not count it" if a player got an assist whilst on the bench (situation described earlier).

Teams just don't use three defenseman.

Personally, I'd count it if it were on the PP, where the positions are very loose anyways. I can certainly remember some plays where a team was on the PP using an "umbrella" formation. LH passes to RH passes to CH who scores. Three players all playing a role that defensemen on a PP often play.

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Could also be a situation in which a D man passes to his partner, goes off for a change, partner carries it up ice, then passes to the fresh d man who scores.

Probably about as rare as a 3 on 5 shorthanded goal-pure speculation though.
This, or when a d-man jumps out of the penalty box and joins the play.

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Could also be a situation in which a D man passes to his partner, goes off for a change, partner carries it up ice, then passes to the fresh d man who scores.

Probably about as rare as a 3 on 5 shorthanded goal-pure speculation though.
Or perhaps (on a PK with a D in the box)
Defenceman gains control of the puck and passes it to defence partner
Defence partner clears the puck to centre ice
Penalty expires, the penalized defenceman jumps onto the ice, grabs the puck, skates in on a breakaway, and scores.

Claude Julien also experimented with having 3 defencemen on the ice during a Bruins PP in the finals, Boychuk and Kaberle (IIRC) on the points, and Chara screening Luongo.

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Never really thought about it....it does sound like a real rarity. I really can't think of anything comparable to it in any other sport.

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How does it actually go in NHL, are you forced to name the positions? I mean, was Belak officially a left wing in that game?

Actually to take this even further, where are you forced to name your skater X as a certain spot player?
The coaches don't have to name positions officially. The roster sheets submitted before the game are just a list of names and numbers. Goalies are the exception, of course, since there are special rules for them.

Here is an image of the official rosters from one game:
http://pics.classicauctions.net/clas..._834_54978.jpg

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The Hawks did it a couple years ago.

I believe it was Seabrook coming out of the box and he scored on a breakaway from Keith and...Campbell I think.. not sure

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