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01-04-2013, 01:22 PM
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You are correct - my mistake. Nevertheless, in comparison to this suspension I'm still surprised. I would have thought either Jenner's would have warranted more, or Reinhart's less (not a repeat offender, no injury on the play).
I'm pretty sure they just make this stuff up as they go along anyway.

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01-04-2013, 01:23 PM
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You do not see him look at Trocheck before doing it, no idea where you are seeing this.
I have watched it over 3 times, hes looking right at him.

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01-04-2013, 01:23 PM
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The end result was no injury and a 2 minute penalty during the game.
The end result was a slash to the face

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01-04-2013, 01:23 PM
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dude, are you Griffin Reinhart? you need to relax here bud, you are getting way overworked over this. the dude almost chopped Trochecks face off and your acting like it wasnt a big deal. Canada is done, they cant win gold, move on man...
This affects even next years tournament if he is on that team, and it can completely screw up this tournament even worse if the standard is now any hit to the head/face, intentional or not is now 3+ game suspensions.

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01-04-2013, 01:24 PM
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The end result was a slash to the face
So what happens if there is an injury? How many games now?

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01-04-2013, 01:24 PM
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I'm asking you. You are the one defending their incoherent suspensions.
I don't make the decisions. Go ask the IIHF. I am defending this suspension.

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01-04-2013, 01:25 PM
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So what happens if there is an injury? How many games now?
More than four games.

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01-04-2013, 01:26 PM
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I don't make the decisions. Go ask the IIHF. I am defending this suspension.
Okay so what standard are you using to defend it. Show me similar plays that have resulted in similar suspensions. I am looking for logic as to why you think it's a fine suspension. The only similar play we know of was not a suspension at all.

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01-04-2013, 01:27 PM
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Okay so what standard are you using to defend it. Show me similar plays that have resulted in similar suspensions. I am looking for logic as to why you think it's a fine suspension. The only similar play we know of was not a suspension at all.
and everyone thinks there should have been one on that play.

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01-04-2013, 01:28 PM
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Okay so what standard are you using to defend it. Show me similar plays that have resulted in similar suspensions. I am looking for logic as to why you think it's a fine suspension. The only similar play we know of was not a suspension at all.
This was an intended slash against a player that ended up hitting that player in the face. It could have caused serious damage. The one you are looking at also should have been a suspension.

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01-04-2013, 01:28 PM
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But that's not what he said. Also, so we are all aware, a slash that hits the head is called high sticking. I didn't realize that = instant suspension. In the past it has been known as a penalty unless it is very clearly malicious.
A "slash" to the head is most certainly not "just" high-sticking. High-sticking is incidental but careless contact of the stick with the head. A slash to the head (think Perezhogin's job on Stafford back in the AHL for an extreme example of a slash to the head) is dealt with more severely pretty much all the time.

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Okay so what standard are you using to defend it. Show me similar plays that have resulted in similar suspensions. I am looking for logic as to why you think it's a fine suspension. The only similar play we know of was not a suspension at all.
By the same logic the infamous Brashear 2 handed head shot should have been 0 games because that kind of stuff hadn't been seen yet

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01-04-2013, 01:29 PM
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and everyone thinks there should have been one on that play.
Yet there [i]wasn't[/b]. You can't give 0 games to one person then the next day 4 to another guy who does the same thing.

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Yet there [i]wasn't[/b]. You can't give 0 games to one person then the next day 4 to another guy who does the same thing.
I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that.

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and everyone thinks there should have been one on that play.
Not true.

Everyone meaning you and the rest of the American fans?

What is at issue here is that the 4gms pretty much excludes him from next year's tourney. Do you think the play warranted that kind of punishment? Trocheck didnt miss a shift. Its completely ridiculous.

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Yet there [i]wasn't[/b]. You can't give 0 games to one person then the next day 4 to another guy who does the same thing.
So you're argument is that Reinhart should not be suspended?

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01-04-2013, 01:31 PM
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Average, all of Canada's d-men were either average or below average for the better part of the tournament.
Average? By far Canada's worst defenseman.

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Not true.

Everyone meaning you and the rest of the American fans?
I haven't seen anybody say what the Swiss player did was fine. I suppose it's possible that maybe some think that but are too afraid to say it.

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By the same logic the infamous Brashear 2 handed head shot should have been 0 games because that kind of stuff hadn't been seen yet
To that point, it was obviously intentional and vicious and resulted in a serious injury. There have also been stick swinging attacks in the past that resulted in long suspensions, so it isn't true we hadn't seen it before.

To the suspension in this case we have seen it. In the Sweden/Swiss video a guy crosschecks another in the face and there is NO suspension. Other illegal hits during the tournament have mostly resulted in 1 game suspensions. Yet this is 4, it is mind-boggling.

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01-04-2013, 01:33 PM
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So you're argument is that Reinhart should not be suspended?
I think no suspension is warranted or a max of 1 game for reckless use of the stick is acceptable, since the IIHF seems to like giving them out.

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I think no suspension is warranted or a max of 1 game for reckless use of the stick is acceptable, since the IIHF seems to like giving them out.
Well then we will just have to disagree there. If you don't punish slashing guys in the face, I'm not sure anybody deserves a suspension.

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The end result plays a factor.
You mean the end result that was no injury to the player?

High stick with no injury = 4 game suspension? Glad you sorted that one out for me.

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01-04-2013, 01:37 PM
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The end result was a slash to the face
And a slash to the face is known as high sticking. So what you are saying is a high stick = 4 games missed.

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Well then we will just have to disagree there. If you don't punish slashing guys in the face, I'm not sure anybody deserves a suspension.
They already did not punish the Swiss player. It was not a deliberate slash to the face. Dude, wow...In hockey it's fast and stuff happens. A stick ramps up and hits another in the face. This is not an uncommon thing. You can't just suspend everyone 4 games for everything. If an injury occurs on the play we will now suspend guys 6 or 7 games for high sticks? It's a joke.

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