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01-04-2013, 03:31 PM
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There's another solution to this nonsense. Stop these silly international tourneys with these phony made-up teams.

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01-04-2013, 03:33 PM
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There's another solution to this nonsense. Stop these silly international tourneys with these phony made-up teams.
Or just let us win. We stay out of the WC, why won't everyone else just let us have this one?

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01-04-2013, 03:36 PM
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Or just let us win. We stay out of the WC, why won't everyone else just let us have this one?
I am so sick of Canadians taking pride in being great at a sport most other countries don't really care about.

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It's non North American.
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There's another solution to this nonsense. Stop these silly international tourneys with these phony made-up teams.
All par of the players development course.

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01-04-2013, 03:38 PM
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I am so sick of Canadians taking pride in being great at a sport most other countries don't really care about.
Lacrosse?


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Lacrosse?

Hurry!!!! Hurry hard!!!.

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I think people are misunderstanding the true meaning of this comment. Cherry even admits he's being a sore loser. What he's getting at is Canada is developing all these hockey players and you may as well slap Canada as the team name of every team in this tournament because its Canada's hockey programs that's developing them into the future stars they are.
Sweden has the grand total of 2 players playing for Canadian junior teams. That's not even as many as the number of Canadian players on US teams.

But sure Sweden are only where they are thanks to Canada's hockey programmes

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01-04-2013, 03:42 PM
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Thoughts? Personally I find Cherry to be a xenophobic dinosaur but I'm interested in hearing other opinions on his thoughts on the CHL.
He has a valid point.

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01-04-2013, 03:48 PM
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There was a great write-up on Yahoo about Cherry's tired old rants.

Does he stop to think that maybe it works both ways?

Would Christine Sinclair be where she is now if her game wasn't honed and perfected through the NCAA, at the University of Portland?

How about all the Canadian basketballers with dreams of making the NBA, who earn U.S. scholarships and pursue their dreams in the States?

Should the U.S. refuse to accept or train any worthy Canadian athletes simply because they weren't "fortunate" enough to have been born there?

I don't think so.

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I wonder how many famous Canadian Celebs would there be if Hollywood didn't exist.

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I think this rant among all by cherry puts the proverbial cherry on the cake..

Hes saying that the talent is developed in the CHL, come on let's look at some of the greats of the game that never stepped foot in the CHL... Swedes ( forsberg, sundin, lidstrom,alfie, the sedins, naslund.. To name a few.. Let's look at the fins ( selanne, the koivu's,) the Russians ( Alex ovechkin, malkin, gonchar) among other countries, jagr, chara...

Not saying that the CHL doesn't give the NHL quality prospects because they do.. Guys like Crosby, up and comers drouin and mackinnon...

Just saying the basis of the NHL isn't soley based on talent from the CHL,
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I am so sick of Canadians taking pride in being great at a sport most other countries don't really care about.
Seriously, we need to start taking pride in important things like maple syrup and tobogganing.

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Cherry's been put through the ringer so many times for his tired old dinosaur views, and it never once shuts him up. Ever. He's going to keep getting on that same old soapbox as often as he can, BECAUSE he can.

He's done a lot for this game as a Canadian, and his HHOF ticket is more or less stamped by now I think. So he's earned that much.

I just wish he would ride off quietly into the sunset and stop making us look bad with these little rants that he does.

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01-04-2013, 04:00 PM
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Chara played in the CHL.

I'm all for having the CHL a Canada only league.

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Shameful... especially considering I'm sitting here with a Tim Hortons coffee right infront of me.

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01-04-2013, 04:04 PM
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So them God damn foreigners are making Canada suck now, before it was Canada had good players in the NHL who couldn't play in the WJC.

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I blame Harper!



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He's said it before and he is as wrong now as he was back then. Good foreign players in CHL make the Canadian players better because of better team mates/opponents.

I think Cherry hasn't kept up with what is happening in the hockey world. Other countries develop good hockey players. Sweden have a terrific youth program. USA almost has as many registered players as Canada. No wonder they'll be able to beat Canada some of the time.

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Cherry's been put through the ringer so many times for his tired old dinosaur views, and it never once shuts him up. Ever. He's going to keep getting on that same old soapbox as often as he can, BECAUSE he can.

He's done a lot for this game as a Canadian, and his HHOF ticket is more or less stamped by now I think. So he's earned that much.

I just wish he would ride off quietly into the sunset and stop making us look bad with these little rants that he does.



You're forgetting our most valued institute!

I was gunna go to work today but my polar bear collapsed. How the hell am I gunna get between places now?

#CanadianProblems

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01-04-2013, 04:41 PM
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I think it isn't so much xenophobia but general ignorance on Cherry's part.

He probably does not realize the CHL is not funded by the government so it doesn't owe anyone anything

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Exactly. Some see his comments as racism. They confuse, in my opinion, racism with patriotism. He likes a lot of players from other countries and he has never shied away from saying it, just like he'll pounce on a Canadian player not doing the right things.

Grapes is simply showing a bit of patriotism and in his opinion, he would like to see the CHL be reserved to young Canadian players to be developed.

Personally, I don't see that as a crime. If it is, crucify me with him on that one.
Different perspective from an American. Isn't the CHL a for-profit business, and their primary goal is to put the best product on the ice for the fans who pay to see the games? While they do develop talent - the CHL's primary goal isn't to get players ready for the NHL.

It's just my perspective that by doing a good job of getting players ready for the NHL, they receive the following benefits.

1) They get to add more elite talent to the league from overseas in the way of gifted players who see the CHL as the best way to prepare for the NHL.
2) Because the NHL respects the job they do, the NHL agrees to a series of restrictions which includes restricting players who were drafting out of the CHL from playing in the AHL until they are 20 years old, and the NHL not being able to call up CHL players during the CHL season (except on an emergency basis).

That being the case - wouldn't it be the paying fans who pay for restricting the CHL to Canadian citizens only? It's not like there is an elite level talent Canadien kid cut from the CHL to make room for Nail Yakupov.

And if the CHL is really the best place to develop talent for the NHL - what benefit is there to restricting it to Canadian kids? Overall, it just seems like a opinionated, reactionary rant when Team Canada lost.

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01-04-2013, 04:47 PM
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He's an old fart, with old views...guys like Grapes are the type that give every country the motivation to beat Canada...I will give him his props for admitting he's a sore loser...

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Every player in the world deserves the best coaching an opportunity available to better themselves.

We allow foreign students into our schools, this is really no different.

They're the best players available, so they get the best coaching.

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I wonder how many famous Canadian Celebs would there be if Hollywood didn't exist.
I don't care what you say - we're keeping Scarlett Johansson.

Please take Nickleback though!

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