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Couturier VS Schenn VS Henrique VS Hodgson

View Poll Results: Best Overall Centre to build a team around
Sean Couturier 135 56.25%
Brayden Schenn 36 15.00%
Adam Henrique 61 25.42%
Cody Hodgson 8 3.33%
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01-03-2013, 08:24 PM
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Henrique. I'd trade Stepan for him.
Not Couturier.
Not Hodgson.
Definetely not Schenn.
I would trade Stepan for Henrique too.. He's not as good as any player in the pool.. Your point?

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What Matt read did without playing with kovy an Parise is far more impressive than what Henrique did with them, not even arguable..
Sure thing big guy, "not even arguable". Henrique was scoring in OT to put his team in the Stanley Cup Final, where was Matt Read? Plus, look at how old he is, right?!

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And Henrique didn't "Earn" anything, he was a fill in for an injured Zajac.
You are so obviously clueless, I have no idea why you would even make these statements when you yourself must know that you're conjuring it out of thin air.

Henrique didn't earn it? He was just a "fill in for an injured Zajac"? That must be why he didn't make the team out of camp when Zajac injured himself weeks before camp even started. He EARNED his way onto the roster. And when he did, DeBoer didn't say, "Oh, you made the team now play with two superstars." He started on the third line. That's three (3), as in after one and two. He then EARNED his way onto the top line and gave DeBoer absolutely no reason to change things for the most part outside of times when the team as a whole struggled or when Zajac came back late in the season and the playoffs.

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And I love your line about Henrique helping them as much as they helped him... Explain why he scored 17 less points than Parise and 31 less than kovy if he was just as good.
Really? You need this explained to you? Because they are two scoring stars and Henrique was a rookie who barely played on the power play. I like your line about me contending that he was "just as good", too. Try reading slower next time. The word I used was "complement".

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Couturier easily.

He will be the second best player of the 2011 draft, fourth best at worst, Hamilton and Larsson could end up being better.

I can't believer he fell to 8th. NYI, Ottawa and Winnipeg really muffed up not drafting him.
More so Ottawa and Winnipeg. I think Strome will be good enough that the selection won't look that bad.

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Couturier is the best of that list IMO. Schenn and Henrique are close. I'm obviously biased so I'll take Henrique but I could certainly understand the argument for Schenn. Last would be Hodgson.

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Henrique has the highest offensive potential out of all of them. It's between him and Couturier for first IMO, and the offensive gap between the two is bigger than the defensive gap between the two. Therefore:

Henrique
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I would trade Stepan for Henrique too.. He's not as good as any player in the pool.. Your point?
My point is, that the Rangers also have a young center, and Henrique is the only one of those listed I'd take over Stepan

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Henrique has the highest offensive potential out of all of them. It's between him and Couturier for first IMO, and the offensive gap between the two is bigger than the defensive gap between the two. Therefore:

Henrique
Couturier
Schenn
Hodgson
Actually, IMO anyway, it could be argued that Henrique has the lowest offensive potential of all of them. I'd say Schenn has the most. Couturier I think has a bit more offensive potential than Henrique and I think his D is better than Henrique's as well.

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Henrique has the highest offensive potential out of all of them. It's between him and Couturier for first IMO, and the offensive gap between the two is bigger than the defensive gap between the two. Therefore:

Henrique
Couturier
Schenn
Hodgson
What??

Schenn has the highest offensive upside for sure of the group.. And couturier has more offensive upside and is much better defensively... Wow

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My point is, that the Rangers also have a young center, and Henrique is the only one of those listed I'd take over Stepan
So... You're telling me right now if the Rangers could trade Stepan to get either Schenn or Couturier they wouldn't do it? I won't get on you about schenn too much, but if you'd turn down Stepan for Couturier, if even for team needs, that's a bad move.

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My point is, that the Rangers also have a young center, and Henrique is the only one of those listed I'd take over Stepan
Come on man

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So... You're telling me right now if the Rangers could trade Stepan to get either Schenn or Couturier they wouldn't do it? I won't get on you about schenn too much, but if you'd turn down Stepan for Couturier, if even for team needs, that's a bad move.
Stepan was tied for 30th last year in scoring by centers. That's pretty great for a 2nd line center. It was his second season, and he will more than likely be able to put up 60 points, making him a bottom tier 1st liner. I'd much rather have that than potential

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Stepan was tied for 30th last year in scoring by centers. That's pretty great for a 2nd line center. It was his second season, and he will more than likely be able to put up 60 points, making him a bottom tier 1st liner. I'd much rather have that than potential
Oh... In that case give me Stepan over Couturier, Schenn, Huberdeau, Strome and Yakupov plz

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My point is, that the Rangers also have a young center, and Henrique is the only one of those listed I'd take over Stepan
Really? I wouldn't do that deal and I'm a fan of Henrique.

Anyways I'd rank the poll as:

Couturier
Henrique
Hodgson
Schenn

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Couturier
Henrique
Schenn
Hodgson

that's how I would rank it, never bought Schenn's hype either.


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Henrique and Couturier.
Both did very very well and Couturier did so much this year for his team. I think Henrique will grow to be a better all around player but Couturier better in the C. CoHo and Schenn are very skilled but they don't have the grit as much to be in the center position.

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henrique, easy

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Henrique and Couturier.
Both did very very well and Couturier did so much this year for his team. I think Henrique will grow to be a better all around player but Couturier better in the C. CoHo and Schenn are very skilled but they don't have the grit as much to be in the center position.
What?

Schenn is a really gritty player. He has been compared to Mike Richards (ironically enough) since the day he was drafted.

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Stepan was tied for 30th last year in scoring by centers. That's pretty great for a 2nd line center. It was his second season, and he will more than likely be able to put up 60 points, making him a bottom tier 1st liner. I'd much rather have that than potential
Strong argument.

You'd much rather have Stepan because will "more than likely" be able to put up 60 points. Then, you say you'd "rather have that than potential".

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But Coturier and schenn were still better in the playoffs. Henrique was really good and clutch but schenn Had better numbers and couturier shut down Malkin.

And before you try the Henrique scored more than schenn, schenn had 9 points in 11 games, Henrique only 13 in 24.
Using Flyers vs Pens 1st round as a reference is not working, sorry. Both teams played terrible hockey, you can't win playing this way, especially for Pittsburgh. And in the next round, Couturier certainly didn't shutdown a Kovalchuk with a broken back. Sean was invisible against New Jersey.

Blatant overhype.

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Using Flyers vs Pens 1st round as a reference is not working, sorry. Both teams played terrible hockey, you can't win playing this way, especially for Pittsburgh. And in the next round, Couturier certainly didn't shutdown a Kovalchuk with a broken back. Sean was invisible against New Jersey.

Blatant overhype.
And Couturier got injured in game 3 during that series. He played less than 4 minutes in the game he got injured, 7 minutes the game after, and 13 minutes in the deciding game.

For reference, he was playing 16-20 minutes a night against the Pens.

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And Couturier got injured in game 3 during that series. He played less than 4 minutes in the game he got injured, 7 minutes the game after, and 13 minutes in the deciding game.

For reference, he was playing 16-20 minutes a night against the Pens.
Never heard about his injury, bad luck. But the 5 Pens games still doesn't make a reference like implied above. It's a small sample size of loopy hockey.

Couturier is going to be solid, I don't deny this, just getting the facts straight.

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Henrique and Couturier.
Both did very very well and Couturier did so much this year for his team. I think Henrique will grow to be a better all around player but Couturier better in the C. CoHo and Schenn are very skilled but they don't have the grit as much to be in the center position.
what? You've just made it clear you don't watch Schenn, you never have, he's easily the grittiest player of the 4

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Using Flyers vs Pens 1st round as a reference is not working, sorry. Both teams played terrible hockey, you can't win playing this way, especially for Pittsburgh. And in the next round, Couturier certainly didn't shutdown a Kovalchuk with a broken back. Sean was invisible against New Jersey.

Blatant overhype.
That's a stupid excuse, if you're going to bag on each teams defense you have to praise their offenses, you can't bash on both, can't have your cake and eat it too. Im tired of people here crying about that series, it was different hockey yes, but it was the most watched by far and most entertaining.

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Strong argument.

You'd much rather have Stepan because will "more than likely" be able to put up 60 points. Then, you say you'd "rather have that than potential".
Stepan is much better than Schenn.

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That's a stupid excuse, if you're going to bag on each teams defense you have to praise their offenses, you can't bash on both, can't have your cake and eat it too. Im tired of people here crying about that series, it was different hockey yes, but it was the most watched by far and most entertaining.
You win ***** playing this way, period.

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