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ATD 2013 - should all teams make the playoffs?

View Poll Results: Should all teams make the playoffs in the next ATD?
Yes 15 75.00%
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01-04-2013, 06:07 PM
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I agree. You're just incorrect that I am advocating something other than the merits of the teams deciding standings. I'm not.
Then no points for GMs simply making posts on assassination threads then? Good.

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Then no points for GMs simply making posts on assassination threads then? Good.
Your mistake is thinking "up to three bonus points" = "deciding the standings".

Did you see the point spreads between the teams last draft? Or are you being selective about the information you allow in right now?

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Your mistake is thinking "up to three bonus points" = "deciding the standings".
I have run many drafts and have seen the spread between 1st and 4th place be razor thin: one more voting GM could have reversed the standings; that was the draft that in a close division MXD's team came in 3rd and Sturm's San Francisco Spiders finished 1st and went on to win the playoffs back in ATD10, six all-time drafts ago.

So, it is possible that a few points could make a difference again in the future. Plus, on principle, the merits of the teams ought to be weighed and determined via voting. Assigning points for participation is irrelevant and unfair. My initial example of Brian Burke working hard meaning squat ON THE ICE stands: the players and coaches need to be selected and it is THEY who ultimately make a difference.

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I have run many drafts and have seen the spread between 1st and 4th place be razor thin: one more voting GM could have reversed the standings; that was the draft that in a close division MXD's team came in 3rd and Sturm's San Francisco Spiders finished 1st and went on to win the playoffs back in ATD10, six all-time drafts ago.
Having collected votes for three ATDs and a few MLDs, I can tell you that this is extremely rare, and you know that.

And if it's really that close, why shouldn't some "intangible" factor affect matters in a small way? That happens in real life. You often bemoan the predictability of the drafts and the higher seeds winning even though real life has epic upsets up a regular basis.

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