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2013 is the year when IIHF starts a crackdown on (Canada's) "toughness" in juniors

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01-04-2013, 05:46 PM
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I've known you for like 6 years on this forum, and you have the biggest agenda against Canada for some reason. You've never tried to be neutral...

Russia had the two dirtiest plays in the tournament yet you have the nerves to call Canada dirty.
Maybe he wishes Canada would just take St Pierre?

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01-04-2013, 06:05 PM
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The IIHF Should be holding Sarcastahockey tournaments instead. ISHF.


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The real embarrassment is the national pride some of you have.
And sometimes the lack thereof.

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This is a serious issue that will eventually turn the hockey into a safer and cleaner sport. Injuries will still happen but the intent to injure must be gone. It hurts everyone at the end, Swedes, Canadians, Russians. Kharlamov injury should not have happened, Cherepanov concussion should not have happened, Petersson injury should not have happened. Who knows, if Sutter doesn't purposefully hits Cherepanov late perhaps he wouldn't have been ragdolled himself later. Perhaps Savard stays in the league and so does Morozov, literally everyone would win.

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And sometimes the lack thereof.
Especially this.

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Kids will be kids. The real embarrasment to me were the NHLers on twitter(no names mentioned) who had the "keep your head up" type of comments after some questionable hits. That's where the mentality, and "problem" starts, if you dismiss questionable hits by stating keep your head up every time. Especially those who kids listen to. An illegal hit is an illegal hit.
And if you choose to ignore the "keep your head up comments" then what will happen then? "Keep your head up" is not an insult, it is valuable advice that makes a player aware of their surroundings. If you choose to ignore it, you risk putting yourself in a dangerous situation. Illegal hits are illegal, but you protecting yourself and remaining safe should be your first priority. And that advice should not be seen as a way to justify an act, but a way to provide and ensure safety. And I think that is what the NHLers were implying.

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01-04-2013, 07:57 PM
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Why is it that the Canada and US players seem so much bigger and stronger and play more physical than the Euros? Hockey has always been a tough game to play, why aren't they evolving?

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01-04-2013, 08:05 PM
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Why is it that the Canada and US players seem so much bigger and stronger and play more physical than the Euros? Hockey has always been a tough game to play, why aren't they evolving?
I think we got rid of that problem in the last 2-3 years, and looking at the U-17's the Swedes looked stronger than the Canadian teams.
Still being stronger doesn't equal dirtier play.

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Kids will be kids. The real embarrasment to me were the NHLers on twitter(no names mentioned) who had the "keep your head up" type of comments after some questionable hits. That's where the mentality, and "problem" starts, if you dismiss questionable hits by stating keep your head up every time. Especially those who kids listen to. An illegal hit is an illegal hit.
Keep your head up is the first rule of hockey. It has nothing to do with legal or illegal checks. It has everything to do with looking after yourself on the ice.

If you don't you will get hurt even with legal contact hits. Hockey is meant to be a tough physical sport.

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Perhaps 2013 is the year what we came together and recognized some standards on what constitutes a penalty and what isn't. Also some standards around suspensions.

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This is a serious issue that will eventually turn the hockey into a safer and cleaner sport. Injuries will still happen but the intent to injure must be gone. It hurts everyone at the end, Swedes, Canadians, Russians. Kharlamov injury should not have happened, Cherepanov concussion should not have happened, Petersson injury should not have happened. Who knows, if Sutter doesn't purposefully hits Cherepanov late perhaps he wouldn't have been ragdolled himself later. Perhaps Savard stays in the league and so does Morozov, literally everyone would win.
This may surprise you but people get hurt on perfectly clean hits.

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Oh look, it's thread number 349 on bashing Canada's toughness..I can't be the only one thinking this is getting old can I?

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Why is it that the Canada and US players seem so much bigger and stronger and play more physical than the Euros? Hockey has always been a tough game to play, why aren't they evolving?
Team Canada was smaller than Team Finland

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01-05-2013, 02:13 AM
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I think we got rid of that problem in the last 2-3 years, and looking at the U-17's the Swedes looked stronger than the Canadian teams.
Still being stronger doesn't equal dirtier play.
You mean our provincial teams? Ok.

And whats with the needless jab in the title? Unneeded if you ask me.

There were plenty of plays by all nations that needed more games as a suspension (or any games at all), I think that the Hockey World (IIHF included) have just clued in that Canada does play a rough/on the edge style of play, and have focused in on them more.

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