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01-03-2013, 06:13 AM
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Plus you don't want him to feel snubbed by the Flames if we leave him in college for two more years, he could pull a Justin Schultz.
I honestly don't see that in him and he seems pretty happy to have been drafted by the Flames. It's completely possible though and I agree we should try to sign him asap if they don't fix it in the CBA.

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01-03-2013, 06:25 AM
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Anyone else saw that one play where Johnny was behind the net and he fed a nifty pass to Sieloff to 1time but he fanned?

Would've been nice to see

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01-03-2013, 07:12 AM
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I honestly don't see that in him and he seems pretty happy to have been drafted by the Flames. It's completely possible though and I agree we should try to sign him asap if they don't fix it in the CBA.
Agreed. Flames had high praise for him and their move to take him in the fourth round, when teams were still passing over him, probably showed a great deal of respect to Gaudreau. A lot of people were mocking and making fun of the pick since he weighed like 135 at the time. People have been doubting him his whole life yet our organization has always supported and believed in him and I think he recognizes that.

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01-03-2013, 07:20 AM
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I highly doubt Gaudreau would stay at BC 4 years to play for another team. He's not that type of a guy. Humble and quiet kid. I think Calgary will talk to him and whenever he decides to leave school it will be in both his and Calgary's best interest

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01-03-2013, 08:44 AM
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Since Gaudreau played for Dubuque(USHL), which is equivalent to BCHL, if he plays out his 4 years of college he could do that.

But with the new CBA coming I'd think they will fix that issue
Incorrect. (IIRC)

In order to have qualified Gaudreau would have had to play in Dubuque after being drafted. Instead he went straight to BC and effectively eliminated that loophole. For example Justin Schultz was drafted out of the BCHL as a 17 year old, and returned for one more season before heading to Wisconsin. The same can be said for Wheeler who was drafted out of the USHS, and then played one season in the USHL as an 18 year old before making his NCAA debut.

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01-03-2013, 10:11 AM
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Personally, I see JG playing one more year at BC to work on his strength, then coming to the Heat after that and playing one year of pro before trying to make the jump to the NHL. However, if he wins another championship there, and wins the Hobey Baker, he may not feel like he has much else to accomplish. I'm sure the Flames will meet with him at seasons end and discuss the best route for him to take so everyone is happy.

This has ended up being Gaudreau's coming out party and his status as an elite prospect is definitely rising.

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01-03-2013, 10:37 AM
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Watching Johnny I just can't wait to see what kind of damage he can do on our team in a few years time. Super excited to see him in the finals the day after tomorrow as well. Tough situation though, because of course I can't cheer against my country in a WJC. I think it's going to be a very even game.

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01-03-2013, 10:48 AM
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Personally, I see JG playing one more year at BC to work on his strength, then coming to the Heat after that and playing one year of pro before trying to make the jump to the NHL. However, if he wins another championship there, and wins the Hobey Baker, he may not feel like he has much else to accomplish. I'm sure the Flames will meet with him at seasons end and discuss the best route for him to take so everyone is happy.

This has ended up being Gaudreau's coming out party and his status as an elite prospect is definitely rising.
The Flames should do their best to keep Gaudreau as far away from their minor league system as they can. I know that people have a boner for Troy Ward because he wins games and is a great interview, but I think he sucks at using and developing talent. I don't see much value in Gaudreau playing second fiddle to career AHL players. Gaudreau might be dynamic enough to force the coach's hand, but I wouldn't take that chance. Johnny Hockey plays at Boston until he's ready to make the jump and then he's a top six player for the Flames.

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01-03-2013, 11:51 AM
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I think its best for jg to play his four years then goto nhl like Krieder.

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01-03-2013, 12:56 PM
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If he wins Hobey Baker/H-East/NCAA, there won't be anything left for him to prove. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he turned pro next year. I know strength/training is important, but the last thing I want for him is to have his development stagnate. It's all looking a little too easy for him, so let's push him to the next level, see how he responds to the challenge of playing near-NHL talent in the AHL.

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01-03-2013, 01:54 PM
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If he wins Hobey Baker/H-East/NCAA, there won't be anything left for him to prove. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he turned pro next year. I know strength/training is important, but the last thing I want for him is to have his development stagnate. It's all looking a little too easy for him, so let's push him to the next level, see how he responds to the challenge of playing near-NHL talent in the AHL.
The thing is, if he goes to the AHL he might be Physically overwhelmed at this point, staying in the NCAA would give him a better opportunity to do more training (fewer games).

So while he might not mature his game as much in the NCAA, staying there gives him an opportunity to fix the issues he does have...just my thoughts.

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01-03-2013, 02:11 PM
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A lot of the players in the NCAA are of the same physical stature to players playing in the AHL. I think a lot it will depend on what Gaudreau feels is left for him to prove in the NCAA. If he thinks the competition is not as challenging as it should be for him, then he should move to the AHL next season. If he thinks that he has more room to grow there and wants to focus on his conditioning and education, then he should stay in the NCAA.

I'm not worried about Ward stunting his development. Baertschi wasn't playing on the 4th line and neither would a player like Gaudreau. Seriously at this point Gaudreau has to be considered a top 20 prospect. The Flames are really lucky to have 2 players of that caliber.

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01-03-2013, 02:30 PM
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Sucks to see that Canada lost. They played horrible and it was an embarrassing performance.

On the bright side, I'm very excited as a Flames fan to see our prospects do well!

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01-03-2013, 03:52 PM
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A lot of the players in the NCAA are of the same physical stature to players playing in the AHL. I think a lot it will depend on what Gaudreau feels is left for him to prove in the NCAA. If he thinks the competition is not as challenging as it should be for him, then he should move to the AHL next season. If he thinks that he has more room to grow there and wants to focus on his conditioning and education, then he should stay in the NCAA.

I'm not worried about Ward stunting his development. Baertschi wasn't playing on the 4th line and neither would a player like Gaudreau. Seriously at this point Gaudreau has to be considered a top 20 prospect. The Flames are really lucky to have 2 players of that caliber.
Good point, the NCAA certainly isn't the CHL, they have a lot of men on those teams. However, the AHL has Skill and Size more so than the NCAA, which is my concern.

Sadly he will never be widely regarded as a Top 20 prospect as he was drafted in the 4th round and, hes a Flames prospect.

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01-03-2013, 04:14 PM
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Meh, you see a lot of players make the jump from NCAA straight to NHL for a reason.

I think Johnny could play one more year at BC and come to main camp the next year. AHL until he dominates there too

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01-03-2013, 10:33 PM
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Good point, the NCAA certainly isn't the CHL, they have a lot of men on those teams. However, the AHL has Skill and Size more so than the NCAA, which is my concern.

Sadly he will never be widely regarded as a Top 20 prospect as he was drafted in the 4th round and, hes a Flames prospect.
Actually, the massive holes in his all around game will do that. Being a Flames prospect or the round he was drafted will not.

Kid's three years away from the NHL, minimum. What the Flames have to do is be patient and not walk away from him, like they did with St. Louis, and almost Stillman.

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01-04-2013, 12:35 PM
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Gaudreau should definitely stick around the NCAA for 1 more year. Get bigger and stronger and work on his skating, which I think would get exposed in the AHL. He's got the smarts, just needs time to build up the mass and work on the feet. I think he's more of a sneaky skater as opposed to fast, also his shot could use some zip on it. Would love to see him on the Calgary Flames pp someday.

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Actually, the massive holes in his all around game will do that. Being a Flames prospect or the round he was drafted will not.

Kid's three years away from the NHL, minimum. What the Flames have to do is be patient and not walk away from him, like they did with St. Louis, and almost Stillman.
Not saying he doesn't have holes in his game, but even if he didn't he still would not be regarded in that way, simply because of where he was drafted.

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Massive holes may be a little bit of an over statement, but he does have things he needs to work on.

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Gaudreau should stay in the NCAA next year and then come play for the Heat for two seasons. IMO that would be the best case scenario.

Also, I've read an interesting piece on Canadian coaching. Some people have suggested that TC should have a coach that returns to the WJC's year after year. I tend to agree with them, as it would lead to better chemistry with returning players.

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Gaudreau should stay in the NCAA next year and then come play for the Heat for two seasons. IMO that would be the best case scenario.

Also, I've read an interesting piece on Canadian coaching. Some people have suggested that TC should have a coach that returns to the WJC's year after year. I tend to agree with them, as it would lead to better chemistry with returning players.
I agree with staying in the NCAA for at least 1 year but I don't think he needs to years on Heat he was a dominate 1 way player last year and this year has become a solid 2 way player if he continues his progression I don't think he will need much time in the AHL.

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Time for Gaudreau to add another championship.

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Time for Gaudreau to add another championship.
Hell no!! lol

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Meh, you see a lot of players make the jump from NCAA straight to NHL for a reason.

I think Johnny could play one more year at BC and come to main camp the next year. AHL until he dominates there too
Chris Kreider adjusted pretty well late last year.

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Please, PLEASE Team Canada, do not let Steve Spott ever coach for you again!

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