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01-05-2013, 07:13 AM
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Didn't look like Reilly wanted any part of that freight train going to the net. Made no effort to use his body to stop the Russian from driving across the front of the net. Sort of epitomized the softest of the D. through out the tournament
Wasn't his play. Pay attention next time. That was 120% Murphy. And up until this game Rielly was only on the ice for 1 goal against ALL tournament. But just speaking for the sake of it works too I guess

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01-05-2013, 07:16 AM
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but canada was a lock for the cold according to all canadiens before the tournament?
I actually said they would lose...

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I don't see why people are giving Rielly a free pass on that final goal and blaming Murphy (Who had a far better game). He's as much to blame, he was so far out of position he couldn't come close to covering for Murphy's mistake.

But I shouldn't be surprised. The whipping boy from a month ago will always be the whipping boy.

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Have you guys noticed that in 4 games against top teams (I mean CAN,USA & SWE) Grigorenko had just 1 point and also was quite bad in the faceoff circle (38.4% by my calculation). So the question is: are we finally allowed to say he's really not showing up in the big games?
grigorenko was russia's best player, imo. he is their most creative player and his line tends to control the puck when he is one the ice. i think if there were a list of scoring chances for each russian player, grigorenko would be at the top.

he could have had several points today but subban made saves.

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And as a sidenote Yakupov was good against Sweden and really good today.
imo, yakupov was mediocre today. basically just tries to rush through opponents, and shows little creativity or vision. he had 2 easy goals that were created by yarullin and kapustin.

based on the games i saw this WJC, i would have no idea at all that yakupov was 1st overall. RNH looks like a 1st overall.

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I honestly think Grigorenko was okay in all those games, not stellar by any means, but he was one of the few players who created plays and didn't play 1v5 each time (see:Yakupov).

Meh, disagree. Yakupov played alone from his team all tournament, and easy tip-ins as his 2 goals aren't that great of an accomplishment.
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01-05-2013, 07:21 AM
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I don't see why people are giving Rielly a free pass on that final goal and blaming Murphy (Who had a far better game). He's as much to blame, he was so far out of position he couldn't come close to covering for Murphy's mistake.

But I shouldn't be surprised. The whipping boy from a month ago will always be the whipping boy.
Reilly is the reason the goal started... he pinched down leaving Murphy in a tough spot then he was made to look like a pylon the Rielly didn't try and take the body.

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01-05-2013, 07:22 AM
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I don't see why people are giving Rielly a free pass on that final goal and blaming Murphy (Who had a far better game). He's as much to blame, he was so far out of position he couldn't come close to covering for Murphy's mistake.

But I shouldn't be surprised. The whipping boy from a month ago will always be the whipping boy.
I think the hate died down after a bit. Murphy screwed up, but Rielly was every bit as culpable. What concerned me with Rielly was that as the tourney went on, he got worse. Murphy definitely outplayed him in the knockout stage, by quite a bit. I'm disappointed in Rielly.

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I think the hate died down after a bit. Murphy screwed up, but Rielly was every bit as culpable. What concerned me with Rielly was that as the tourney went on, he got worse. Murphy definitely outplayed him in the knockout stage, by quite a bit. I'm disappointed in Rielly.
Agreed on all points, Rielly had a good third period today but that was the first he looked good in a while. Then OT happened, both are to blame. Rielly easily could have skated hard back and hit him but he didn't. Murphy could have not got beat clean but he didn't.

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01-05-2013, 07:26 AM
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Reilly is the reason the goal started... he pinched down leaving Murphy in a tough spot then he was made to look like a pylon the Rielly didn't try and take the body.
I know, which is why I'm not sure why in the aftermath of that goal Murphy was getting all the onus. he played it bad, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Against Germany when Hamilton messed up and Harrington didn't do anything about it, we didn't blame Harrington.

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I know, which is why I'm not sure why in the aftermath of that goal Murphy was getting all the onus. he played it bad, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Against Germany when Hamilton messed up and Harrington didn't do anything about it, we didn't blame Harrington.
The bigger issue is why Spott had our two weakest defensive defencemen on the ice, together, at an ES situation, in OT of the bronze medal game. Both Rielly and Murphy looked very poor on the goal, but a more alert coach would have paired each of them up with a more solid partner (Harrington / Ouellet). Alternatively, it never hurts to shorten the bench in important situations.

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Also, love how that guy on the Canadian bench tries to slash guys skating by. Equally unclassy.
Worse. Remember words won't hurt but sticks (and stones) break bones.

And I wish people would stop calling out the entire teams. A couple Russian guys acted like idiots in the heat of the moment and a Canadian guy upped the ante. A few little boys need a good talking to about how to behave on an international stage but I'm not going to let that become the focus of the game for me. It was an exciting, sloppy game that could have gone either way, good for Russia.

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01-05-2013, 07:43 AM
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If you told me the "Dream team" failed to medal at the beginning of this tournament, I'd have told you you'd be crazy. They were supposed to go all the way this year.

However, the United States showed their mettle and tough grit by going all the way to the Championship game, and the Russians and Swedes both proved to be a tough opponent.

The point is this isn't Canada's game anymore. Canada used to soar through this tournament on their way to 5 straight titles. The world's caught up. The last few champions have come from the US, Sweden, and Russia.

Team Canada has to take a good long look at itself and make corrections in order to take that step forward towards another championship title. There is no excuse for a stacked roster like this, in a season with a NHL lockout, failing to medal.

On a final note: Why does Team Canada use a new coach every year? I noticed the other day that Sweden had the same coach for the 3rd year in a row.
They met a better prepared team in the US, and lost a sloppy but rather even game to a talented Russian team, these things happen. It's two games and was bound to happen eventually after 14 years of medalling, just kind of surprised it was this year, when they had the "dream team". Then again, Russia had a few pretty good players too who wouldn't have been there had the NHL been in.I realize a lot of Canadians are disappointed, but how about giving credit to the other teams as well?

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I like how Hockey Canada had to shut down its Facebook page, or at least the posting option.. Seems as though they really don't like take the heat or hearing criticism.

And to be fair to Hockey Canada a lot of fans from other countries like to really rub it in when Canada gets smacked in the chops.

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Well - that's quite a run. Fourteen straight years with a medal of one type or another - something to be proud of, I suppose. Just not feeling it yet....

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01-05-2013, 07:47 AM
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but canada was a lock for the cold according to all canadiens before the tournament?
We are - I'm sneezing right now....

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The bigger issue is why Spott had our two weakest defensive defencemen on the ice, together, at an ES situation, in OT of the bronze medal game. Both Rielly and Murphy looked very poor on the goal, but a more alert coach would have paired each of them up with a more solid partner (Harrington / Ouellet). Alternatively, it never hurts to shorten the bench in important situations.
If history tells us anything even our top defensemen defensively can mess up in overtime (Pietrangelo). It might have been a good idea to give Murphy a better partner (He played better all game, so it would have been him) but then again if these guys scored right away because of who they are then it would have been good. I don't think Murphy or Rielly are bad defensively, far from it, just not the best available.

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Worse. Remember words won't hurt but sticks (and stones) break bones.

And I wish people would stop calling out the entire teams. A couple Russian guys acted like idiots in the heat of the moment and a Canadian guy upped the ante. A few little boys need a good talking to about how to behave on an international stage but I'm not going to let that become the focus of the game for me. It was an exciting, sloppy game that could have gone either way, good for Russia.
He didn't actually swing his stuck at them. It was a feint. In baseball that would have been ball 1.

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Binnington>Subban

hahahahaha, I love the armchair critics here.

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Reilly just got burned on that play. Great job.

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I don't get the Canadian and Russian kids taunting each other before and after games. That has no place in hockey. Isn't there any strong leaders at these countries that can put a stop to this?
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Well - that's quite a run. Fourteen straight years with a medal of one type or another - something to be proud of, I suppose. Just not feeling it yet....
It would be if more than 4-5 nations had a legit shot at making the finals.

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