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01-05-2013, 10:06 AM
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European divisions may very well be in the future plans, but you can't just "relocate" teams there. It would need to be a carefully calculated plan. 10+ teams, to make it worthwhile in terms of scheduling "road games" overseas.
I agree. And, I will be the first to admit that I just throw ideas out there, but do not defend them to the end even if I think I am right or wrong.

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01-05-2013, 10:14 AM
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Manitoba has a population 200k more than Saskatchewan and they have the Winnipeg Jets..
Winnipeg Jets (the name at least) has a thorough history in Manitoba. Winnipeg has almost 700 thousand people (more in the 'Greater Winnipeg Area'). Regina and Saskatoon both combined have less people than that with almost 250 kilometres between them.

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01-05-2013, 10:23 AM
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Its the mediator who told the NHL and the NHLPA that the process is worth continuing.

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01-05-2013, 10:33 AM
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Its the mediator who told the NHL and the NHLPA that the process is worth continuing.
Tick tock. 5 days till deadline.

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01-05-2013, 10:50 AM
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Federal Mediator has left the meeting with NHLPA. #TSN

maybe he's off to the NHL room now LOL (i hope

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01-05-2013, 10:51 AM
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Federal Mediator has left the meeting with NHLPA. #TSN

maybe he's off to the NHL room now LOL (i hope
Maybe he had enough of their nonsense and is resigning from his post.

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01-05-2013, 11:02 AM
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Mediator met with #nhlpa , left their office and says hes now on the way to #NHL .

i'm guessing the two sides wont meet in the same room until they think theyre close to a deal


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01-05-2013, 12:23 PM
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Well, if its a close as we're sensing it could be a very "good day" according to source.

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
As #NHL #NHLPA r set to meet at this moment source says mediator work last 24hrs has help bridge gap on many issues. Stay tuned..

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
PA hotel is buzzing in anticipation. Down to minimal issues...but, still not done. And definition of "minimal" may differ.

Let's get this done!

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01-05-2013, 01:05 PM
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So tired of hearing this nonsense.

Forbes estimates the value of the bottom 6 teams in the NHL at between 130 and 167 million each. How do you propose that they just "get rid" of them?

Does someone just go to each owner and say, "I understand you have a $150 million asset, but there are a bunch of fans in Canada that think there are too many teams in the league, so we'd like you to pack up your team and move it to Helsinki" ?

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So tired of listening to posters who dont actually know anything about hockey spew your kind of crap with a condescending attitude.

No, you move the teams. San Fran, Quebec, Hamilton etc. Got it now?
He's right though. There is no way they fold teams. The most feasible way is to move a few teams. Take the bottom teams and move them to better markets. Seattle, Quebec, southern Ontario.

Seattle has established hockey roots there. WHL teams in the region. Over 3.5M people live in the Seattle Metro Area alone. Not to mention potential fans all over the state and as far as Oregon(another established hockey market).

We don't need to sell the virtues of a team in Quebec.

Between Hamilton and Toronto there has to be a suitable place to put a franchise. The protectionism that is going on at MLSE seems pointless from a Hamiltonians perspective. There is 2 kinds of hockey fans in this area, Leaf fans, and Leaf haters. They claim to like BOS, MTL, PHI, NYR or whatever, but the truth is they aren't fans of their teams like we are. The only time they are passionate is when their team is in the playoffs or they are playing the Leafs. Don't get me wrong. They're passionate about hockey. They go to JR games, grew up playing it. They are just sick of a losing team being crammed down their throats. I don't blame them. It's all you hear on the radio and on TSN around here. Leafs leafs leafs. They hate it more then they love their own team. They need a team they can follow on TV regularly.

The league should really consider tapping into this portion of fans. I think they could bring about a whole other very healthy franchise, all the while eliminating a poor team. These fans will never be Leaf fans. Ever. I have no doubt about it. They will watch CLB vs NAS as a fix instead. It's a whole hockey market that really doesn't touch the Leafs. It'd also be one less poor team to support.

Move two or three teams to healthy markets with a history of hockey already there, instead of eliminating teams all together. I really believe there is a way to move the 2 or 3 poorest teams and make them nearly instantly healthy teams showing some sort of profit.

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01-05-2013, 01:09 PM
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Well, if its a close as we're sensing it could be a very "good day" according to source.

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
As #NHL #NHLPA r set to meet at this moment source says mediator work last 24hrs has help bridge gap on many issues. Stay tuned..

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
PA hotel is buzzing in anticipation. Down to minimal issues...but, still not done. And definition of "minimal" may differ.

Let's get this done!
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Source "tentative deal could be done within 24 hrs or #NHLPA could serve #NHL notice to disclaim early as 2day. Present meeting is huge.

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01-05-2013, 01:17 PM
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The latest from NYC from #NHL #NHLPA meeting is mediator has help bridge gap. Getting closer on key issues though still plenty of work 2 do
Sounds like a broken record. It's become a cliche.

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01-05-2013, 01:20 PM
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mediator is a hero!

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01-05-2013, 01:35 PM
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how many reports have been to the tune of "they're close but have a lot of work to do"

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01-05-2013, 01:38 PM
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mediator is a hero!
Not really. If a deal is going to get done, it was going to get done with or without the mediator. It was also likely to happen last minute, regardless of the mediator's involvement.

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01-05-2013, 01:39 PM
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Not really. If a deal is going to get done, it was going to get done with or without the mediator. It was also likely to happen last minute, regardless of the mediator's involvement.
you dont know that for sure
besides the mediator was very helpful
give him full credit

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01-05-2013, 01:54 PM
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Winnipeg Jets (the name at least) has a thorough history in Manitoba. Winnipeg has almost 700 thousand people (more in the 'Greater Winnipeg Area'). Regina and Saskatoon both combined have less people than that with almost 250 kilometres between them.
Yet the Riders are always sold-out, the Bombers...not so much. The hockey fervour in Sask. has a religious intensity that football just can't match. Disposable income in Sask. is now higher than in Winnipeg and possible diversions are still fewer. Distance in Sask. is irrelevant as it is always a long way to anywhere. If Winnipeg can support an NHL franchise, Saskatchewan could as well.

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Yet the Riders are always sold-out, the Bombers...not so much. The hockey fervour in Sask. has a religious intensity that football just can't match. Disposable income in Sask. is now higher than in Winnipeg and possible diversions are still fewer. Distance in Sask. is irrelevant as it is always a long way to anywhere. If Winnipeg can support an NHL franchise, Saskatchewan could as well.
it would be wonderful

i can envision hoards of cars travelling over 100 miles to get to regina
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01-05-2013, 02:51 PM
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Yet the Riders are always sold-out, the Bombers...not so much. The hockey fervour in Sask. has a religious intensity that football just can't match. Disposable income in Sask. is now higher than in Winnipeg and possible diversions are still fewer. Distance in Sask. is irrelevant as it is always a long way to anywhere. If Winnipeg can support an NHL franchise, Saskatchewan could as well.
I doubt it but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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it would be wonderful

i can envision hoards of cars travelling over 100 miles to get to regina
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Pierre LeBrun tweets, " NHL player (not in bargaining room) says he believes "talks are going well." ..." 5m

some unconfrimed reports are saying NHL Lockout is over. Will go with 50 game season. Nothing confirmed yet. Official word to come at 6pm ET .

but we shall see...

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01-05-2013, 03:01 PM
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Cap could come up to 63-64m according to the usual sources, rather than the 60m originally brought up.

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kypreos says league has moved salary cap to 63 million

what was the previous cap?

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01-05-2013, 03:03 PM
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Source "tentative deal could be done within 24 hrs or #NHLPA could serve #NHL notice to disclaim early as 2day. Present meeting is huge.

So basically it could go very right or very wrong. I know it's a couple of hours old but just pointing out the significance.

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kypreos says league has moved salary cap to 63 million

what was the previous cap?


PA wants 65 million, league wants 60 million

once again it's the owners moving on issues

greedy players

i think it was 64.3 million

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