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Everything Canada (goaltending, coaching, future)

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01-05-2013, 12:31 PM
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If the 2030 team is as bad as your math they probably won't being winning much of anything.
Lol waking up at 4AM everyday has ruined my brain

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01-05-2013, 12:33 PM
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My totally unfair assessment of how Canada should do things in the future:

3 - Quit taking meat heads like Jenner who may be fine rough tough WHL players but are never anything put a liability in the international scene.


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I agree to most of your post, but Boone Jenner plays in the OHL....

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01-05-2013, 12:36 PM
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I agree to most of your post, but Boone Jenner plays in the OHL....
Yeah I was wanting to post the juniors period and not just a particular league.

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01-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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With Spott as the head coach and Ryan Murphy making the team, you knew we were in trouble. I thought the talent could overcome those two, but it couldn't.

Luckily, Murphy will never play for Canada again at any level and Spott will never again coach the WJC.
Oh one last thing before I retire for the year as I predicted 4 th place finish with this team. The person I blame most Is spott and that stupid CAPE this has got to be the stupidest idea ever and you could tell the players were embarrassed wearing this horrendous batman cape lollipop

It's actually great we didn't win bronze this should force a change at the top
It's the result we needed you can trust me on this guys after all I did predict a forth place finish. I'm so good.

Changes will come. See you guys next year.

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01-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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3 - Quit taking meat heads like Jenner who may be fine rough tough WHL players but are never anything put a liability in the international scene.

I think you meant J.C. Lipon.

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01-05-2013, 12:45 PM
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Possible players for next years juniors...

Forwards:
Jonathan Drouin
Nate MacKinnon
Charles Hudon
Hunter Shinkaruk
Sean Monahan
Tom Wilson
Max Domi
Connor Brown
Mathew Campangna
Connor McDavid
Kerby Rychel
Scott Kosmachuk
Bo Horvat
Jean-Sebastian Dea
Jerome Verrier
Marc-Olivier Roy
William Carrier
Frederik Gauthier
Vincent Dunn
Anthony Duclair
Nicolas Petan
Brendan Leipsic
Morgan Klimchuk
Sam Reinhart
Curtis Lazar
Matia Marcantouni

Defense:
Morgan Rielly
Griffin Reinhart
Matt Dumba
Josh Morrissey
Ryan Pulock
Darnell Nurse
Mason Geertsen
Samuel Morin
Eric Roy
Chris Bigras
Shea Theodore

Goalies:
Jake Paterson
Zach Fucale
Eric Comire

Feel free to add players who im not aware of.

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01-05-2013, 12:49 PM
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we will beat you on your soil next year
I am looking forward to it

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01-05-2013, 12:51 PM
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The US has like 32749234793274 times the population of Canada. Just by that fact alone, if the popularity of Hockey keeps increasing in the States, there will be no way anyone can keep up with the USA in 2030.

Edit: Cashville basically said the same thing above.
This is kinda how I feel about it. The US has 315 million people while Canada only has 35 million. California alone has more people than all of Canada. It's not gonna happen overnight but one would think based on numbers it's bound to happen. I see the same thing happening with soccer in the US, even though I don't think the US will ever be the best in soccer they should still improve dramatically over the next 20-30 years.

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01-05-2013, 12:52 PM
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By 2030, Canada will be # 3 in the world right behind Russia and USA

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01-05-2013, 12:53 PM
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I really do not like this team.

There, I said it.
Called it during 1st intermission in Canada/Germany game.

This game blew. No heart. No young-energy that made us so good in years past.

Remember playing the Russians a long way back for gold, and Steve Downie blasting in on the forecheck and hammering Russians all game long? Yeah. We had none of that from the guys who were supposed to do that.

Subban was bad. People say it's "not his fault". Well, sure, it's not his fault, but he played bad in the games that mattered. To me, I definitely put the majority of blame on him.

RNH was great.

The rest of the team, I'm looking particularly at the defence, was horrendously bad.

Lastly, Spott should never be allowed near a Hockey Canada team ever again. The nepotism that was apparent early on carried over into the actual tournament and that is a disgusting thing for a coach at this level of hockey.

Hated this tournament. Hope next year we bring in some passion (a la, Brent Sutter) and show the world once more why Canada is the best hockey country, bar-none.

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01-05-2013, 12:56 PM
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Possible players for next years juniors...

Forwards:
Jonathan Drouin
Nate MacKinnon
Charles Hudon
Hunter Shinkaruk
Sean Monahan
Tom Wilson
Max Domi
Connor Brown
Mathew Campangna
Connor McDavid
Kerby Rychel
Scott Kosmachuk
Bo Horvat
Jean-Sebastian Dea
Jerome Verrier
Marc-Olivier Roy
William Carrier
Frederik Gauthier
Vincent Dunn
Anthony Duclair
Nicolas Petan
Brendan Leipsic
Morgan Klimchuk
Sam Reinhart
Curtis Lazar
Matia Marcantouni

Defense:
Morgan Rielly
Griffin Reinhart
Matt Dumba
Josh Morrissey
Ryan Pulock
Darnell Nurse
Mason Geertsen
Samuel Morin
Eric Roy
Chris Bigras
Shea Theodore

Goalies:
Jake Paterson
Zach Fucale
Eric Comire

Feel free to add players who im not aware of.
F - Jujhar Kharia
F - Devin Shore
D- Michael Matheson
D - Colton Parayko


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01-05-2013, 12:57 PM
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Lol waking up at 4AM everyday has ruined my brain
It's cool... I'm still waiting for the grammar police to point out my error.

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01-05-2013, 12:59 PM
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F - Brendan Gaunce

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01-05-2013, 12:59 PM
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By 2030, Canada will be # 3 in the world right behind Russia and USA

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01-05-2013, 01:01 PM
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I think you meant J.C. Lipon.
Well Jenner as well. Suspended last tourney, immediately gets suspended this tourney, takes an idiotic penalty in the game today.

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01-05-2013, 01:03 PM
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No, the CHL will be overrun by euros, so all the canadian kids will stop playing :O

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01-05-2013, 01:09 PM
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I think team Canada's problems stem directly from the selection process.

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01-05-2013, 01:10 PM
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Global warming is coming. We won't have any ice on the Earth in 2030. They gonna play hockey on the grass and currently Holland is the best at it.

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01-05-2013, 01:12 PM
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They will still have the best players, most likely, but that doesn't mean they will win. Every top country could win any given year.

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01-05-2013, 01:14 PM
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Subban is to blame, just like the rest of the team is. He wasn't the problem or the weak point of the team. The rest of them were just as accountable for us not medalling this year. He wasn't great, but he wasn't nor should he be considered the reason we did so bad this year.

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01-05-2013, 01:15 PM
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By 2030, Canada will be # 3 in the world right behind Russia and USA
Says the Russian.

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01-05-2013, 01:22 PM
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I think team Canada's problems stem directly from the selection process.
Which also ties into the choice in coach.

I think if there is anything Hockey Canada should learn from this tournament is that you better pick the right guy to lead this team. Picking some Junior coach who is going to ride players from his own team is a terrible idea. I agree go with guys who have pro experience. There is no age limit on the coaching.

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01-05-2013, 01:25 PM
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Canada has had 55% of the NHL's population for about 15 years ever since it dipped below 60%. It hasn't really changed recently. The top end players are all at least half Canadian. The year end all-stars, the award winners, the scoring leaders, etc. they are all about half Canadian still. I don't know what travesty fell on Canada in 2013 because they were a disgrace to our country but there is so much talent to choose from in Canada and it isn't going anywhere anytime soon. We just saw Canada win 5 gold in a row, lose two tight gold medal games and lose a couple of semifinals. Canada won a medal at the WJC 14 years in a row which will never be touched. The players from 2005 are still only 27 years old at best, plus a whole slew of others since then. Canada is doing fine although I'd sleep better at night if we won those golds recently. 2030 is 17 years away. I assume we'll still have 50% of the NHL talent by then as well.

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01-05-2013, 01:31 PM
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I disagree. RNH, Strome, Huberdeau, Rielly, Reinhart, etc. This team looked good on paper.
Definitely. It was very good on paper in fact.

As for how the team would have done without the lockout, hard to say. It would have been a completely different dynamic. The team in Halifax in 03 was pretty weak on paper, especially when you consider they didn't have Spezza, Bouwmeester, Nash or Weiss, but managed to take a very good and experienced Russian team to within one goal of the gold because they knew their roles and stuck with them and played the game that fit them best. Though Fleury also played out of his mind that year (then went the opposite way the next year) so it shows what goaltending does for you.

This team had the names, but not the play to match it.

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01-05-2013, 01:31 PM
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Honestly, we thought this was 2005 again and we played like it. You know, the 2005 team worked for what they did. It looked easy, but only because they kept the pedal to the metal until the final whistle (okay they let up in the third period of the gold medal game when it was 6-1). This team in 2013 did not work and it was visible. They were lazy, entitled and didn't put their work boots on.

If there is no lockout then I think the team does better. Yes Nugent Hopkins isn't there but everyone would have stepped up their game more and not assumed they would win because we had a future NHL star. Canada deserved what they got, plain and simple. The 2006 team didn't have the top end talent that other teams did yet they played as a team and won with great goaltending, team bonding and hard work. They shut down Malkin in the gold medal game and won 5-0. Sure if they had Crosby the team would look better on paper, but would they have PERFORMED better? Who knows.

All I know is that this team felt entitled and without that feeling they would have done better.

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