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01-05-2013, 03:52 PM
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Will take 63m cap hit. etter than 60.

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01-05-2013, 03:55 PM
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Sounds too close to fail unless somebody gets pissed off and decides they've had it.

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Sounds too close to fail unless somebody gets pissed off and decides they've had it.
Well if these last few months taught me anything .

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NHL leaking this positive info doesn't bode too well for me....

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NHL leaking this positive info doesn't bode too well for me....
No one actually knows who is leaking it, only crazy balls Walsh says NHL

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Are the players and NHL still meeting with each other?

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01-05-2013, 04:14 PM
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Are the players and NHL still meeting with each other?
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01-05-2013, 04:18 PM
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Do or die for both sides. Nut cutting time. If they screw this up now both sides look completely incompetent. A PR nightmare for players and owners.

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01-05-2013, 04:25 PM
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Could this be... the end?

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01-05-2013, 04:26 PM
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$63M is fine. They will have 2 amnesty buyouts. Redden is one. Rupp. It will be tight.
question, can buyouts start now? So Redden this yr then make a decision on Rupp next yr? I do agree Rupp is tight but I would want him on this yrs team since the cap wont be an issue till next yr really

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01-05-2013, 04:27 PM
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Seeing as how there's zero need for $70M with a buyout (Two of them now) there's not much need for it...

No need for $65M either, they're just getting nit-picky now.
There is no need for something as low as $60m unless your intent is to break up teams. Its not an obligation to spend that high. If it causes the players to get more than 50%, money goes back to the owners. The pa isn't angling for more cash. Maybe they want to stay home instead of packing up their family. Take a run at a cup. This is impacting the upper echelon teams only, not a surprise players there would rather not be forced out over a bad transition.

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There is no need for something as low as $60m unless your intent is to break up teams. Its not an obligation to spend that high. If it causes the players to get more than 50%, money goes back to the owners. The pa isn't angling for more cash. Maybe they want to stay home instead of packing up their family. Take a run at a cup. This is impacting the upper echelon teams only, not a surprise players there would rather not be forced out over a bad transition.
Wings would have different posts if his team was in the same cap position as Rangers.

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01-05-2013, 04:37 PM
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There is no need for something as low as $60m unless your intent is to break up teams. Its not an obligation to spend that high. If it causes the players to get more than 50%, money goes back to the owners. The pa isn't angling for more cash. Maybe they want to stay home instead of packing up their family. Take a run at a cup. This is impacting the upper echelon teams only, not a surprise players there would rather not be forced out over a bad transition.
ahhhh the NHL probably stayed strong at 60 knowing they would give a higher cap in exchange for something else. Heck that's what I would of done. Make them think they are winning when the 63 number is really what they were OK with all along

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01-05-2013, 04:39 PM
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As I implied a few hours ago, simply splitting difference (if that) on remaining issues was not likely to cut it for PA. Much work ahead.

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01-05-2013, 04:51 PM
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Dont play hardball now fehr. Split the difference on the cap.

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01-05-2013, 04:53 PM
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ahhhh the NHL probably stayed strong at 60 knowing they would give a higher cap in exchange for something else. Heck that's what I would of done. Make them think they are winning when the 63 number is really what they were OK with all along
Truth be told, the union bargained a lot away for what I would deem primarily franchise issues. The have indirect impacts on the players, but the teams should have hashed out transition caps, amnesty buyouts, ahl cap threshold, revenue sharing for God's sake...

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01-05-2013, 04:58 PM
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Someone who I feel has "sense" of where things are just told me: "There's a bit of frenzy going on now that may not be entirely justified."

Person wasn't being negative, just noting there seems to be a runaway train of optimism that may be a little excessive. Food for thought.


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Repeat, the CBA is not done. Just hearing that they've agreed on the number of years 10-years with opt out after Year 8.

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01-05-2013, 05:06 PM
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PA vote is over.

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01-05-2013, 05:13 PM
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Just to clarify for some folks, that's the vote on the Disclaimer of Interest, not a vote on the CBA.

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01-05-2013, 05:40 PM
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there are reports that they want to get this deal done real soon to play 50+ games but i dont see it. if Fehr has held out this long why wouldnt he wait till the last possible second to get a better deal?

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01-05-2013, 06:02 PM
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ahhhh the NHL probably stayed strong at 60 knowing they would give a higher cap in exchange for something else. Heck that's what I would of done. Make them think they are winning when the 63 number is really what they were OK with all along
Truth be told, the union bargained a lot away for what I would deem primarily franchise issues. The have indirect impacts on the players, but the teams should have hashed out transition caps, amnesty buyouts, ahl cap threshold, revenue sharing for God's sake...

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I think this deal gets done tonite and the 2013-14 cap is 65M wit h a 44M bottom. Time to get this done. Bettmans just breaking chops but owners want Bettman to cut the S**t and get this done. Gary is just using that cap as a tactic to get something else like a smaller varience.

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01-05-2013, 06:20 PM
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I think this deal gets done tonite and the 2013-14 cap is 65M wit h a 44M bottom. Time to get this done. Bettmans just breaking chops but owners want Bettman to cut the S**t and get this done. Gary is just using that cap as a tactic to get something else like a smaller varience.
Agreed. I think both sides are playing chicken.

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01-05-2013, 06:22 PM
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Honestly not even excited anymore for when they eventually get a deal done by the 11th.

Just lost all my interest for this year at the disgust of both sides. 48 games, meh, better than nothing, but they lost my interest. A 66 game start on X-Mas or w/e, would have really gotten me pumped like NBA did last year. Of course i'll be back if there is no season, but this whole dog and pony show just put a bad taste in my mouth.

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“@aaronward_nhl: Told NHLPA has moved on the salary cap to 64.3 which happens to be the upper limit from last year. #TSN”

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