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Start your franchise with Yakupov or Couturier?

View Poll Results: With my 1st overall pick, I select
Sean Couturier 76 38.38%
Nail Yakupov 122 61.62%
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01-05-2013, 07:52 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say SC never wins the selke once, can't believe people just assume he's going to be a top 3 defensive forward year in and year out, like its that easy


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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say SC never wins the selke once, can't believe people just assume he's going to be a top 3 defensive forward year in and year out
SC being a Selke contender is the most likely to be correct prediction anyone has made in this thread.

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Did you seriously just try'n pull out Danny Briere's stats from the early 90's? That analogy is terribad.
How about Talbot, Brassard, Desharnais doing the same or better?

Or Radulov being TOO good

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say SC never wins the selke once, can't believe people just assume he's going to be a top 3 defensive forward year in and year out, like its that easy
He plays in the division that arguably gets the most media attention and plays against guys like Malkin, Crosby, Tavares, Kovalchuk, Gaborik, Nash, Richards, Neal..... He will have plenty of chance to be in the spot light.

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How about Talbot, Brassard, Desharnais doing the same or better?

Or Radulov being TOO good
For every Brassard there's a Datsyuk

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01-05-2013, 08:16 PM
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SC being a Selke contender is the most likely to be correct prediction anyone has made in this thread.
Doubtful. It's much more likely Yakupov hits 50 goals with his Oiler teammates feeding him the puck than Couturier becoming a Selke candidate so long as there are guys named Kesler, Toews and Datsyuk playing in the NHL.

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01-05-2013, 08:22 PM
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Doubtful. It's much more likely Yakupov hits 50 goals with his Oiler teammates feeding him the puck than Couturier becoming a Selke candidate so long as there are guys named Kesler, Toews and Datsyuk playing in the NHL.
Is Eberle getting traded? Otherwise, I can't see any realistic way that yakupov ever comes close to that level of production.

Edit: auto-correct hates hockey names...

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01-05-2013, 08:26 PM
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Is Eberle getting traded? Otherwise, I can't see any realistic way that yakupov ever comes close to that level of production.
Really so you can't see a possible scenario that has the Oilers place a #1 overall pick with 2 other #1 overall picks on the same line?

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Really so you can't see a possible scenario that has the Oilers place a #1 overall pick with 2 other #1 overall picks on the same line?
Sure, I guess. I'll defer to oilers fans on that.

It just seemed to me that Eberle is a better compliment to Hall and RNH, but you're obviously right--that's a possibility.

Still, I find it hard to believe Yakupov can pot 50 sharing the puck with Hall either...

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Really so you can't see a possible scenario that has the Oilers place a #1 overall pick with 2 other #1 overall picks on the same line?
When that guy has to beat out there current best player, yes it's hard to believe

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Doubtful. It's much more likely Yakupov hits 50 goals with his Oiler teammates feeding him the puck than Couturier becoming a Selke candidate so long as there are guys named Kesler, Toews and Datsyuk playing in the NHL.
You may be right since there can only be one selke winner per year.. And multle 50 goal scorers can be had. But I fully expect Couturier to surpass Kesler defensively and Datsyuk isn't getting any younger. Toews and Bergeron are the barometer

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When that guy has to beat out there current best player, yes it's hard to believe
Please name me one 1st overall pick, besides Erik Johnson or MAF who aren't forwards, who you'd trade Eberle for straight up? It's like you're saying that Yakupov will NEVER surpass Eberle and I really doubt you're right on that one.

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Is Eberle getting traded? Otherwise, I can't see any realistic way that yakupov ever comes close to that level of production.

Edit: auto-correct hates hockey names...
There is no way Edmonton doesn't throw out their best offensive threats with a man-advantage. They'll find a way.

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You may be right since there can only be one selke winner per year.. And multle 50 goal scorers can be had. But I fully expect Couturier to surpass Kesler defensively and Datsyuk isn't getting any younger. Toews and Bergeron are the barometer
To be fair the original post pegged Couturier as a Selke candidate, so one of three not necessarily a Selke winner.

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Edmonton's future #1 PP unit

Hall - RNH - Eberle

Schultz - Yakupov

feel free to switch Eberle and Yakupov if you like but I fully expect them to go with 4 forwards on the 1st PP unit after next season.

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Please name me one 1st overall pick, besides Erik Johnson or MAF who aren't forwards, who you'd trade Eberle for straight up? It's like you're saying that Yakupov will NEVER surpass Eberle and I really doubt you're right on that one.
Not sure what you're looking for here.... Worded weird but I'll attempt..

Who I'd rather have

MAF < Eberle
Ovechkin > Eberle
Crosby > Eberle
Johnson < Eberle
Kane > Eberle
Stamkos > Eberle
Tavares > Eberle
Hall < Eberle
RNH > Eberle
Yakupov < Eberle


If you're trying to say what I think you're saying, I disagree with your assessment. Yakupov was 1st overall in a weak draft, he wouldn't have been picked first over any of the recent #1 picks in the same draft

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To be fair the original post pegged Couturier as a Selke candidate, so one of three not necessarily a Selke winner.
In that case I truly think Couturier is all but guranteed to be a perennial candidate

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Yakupov AINEC.

I expect him to be Kovalchuk-lite, while Couturier will be Jordan Staal-lite.
this most exactly

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this most exactly
People expecting couturier to be a Staal-Lite are going to be shocked.

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Not sure what you're looking for here.... Worded weird but I'll attempt..

Who I'd rather have

MAF < Eberle
Ovechkin > Eberle
Crosby > Eberle
Johnson < Eberle
Kane > Eberle
Stamkos > Eberle
Tavares > Eberle
Hall < Eberle
RNH > Eberle
Yakupov < Eberle


If you're trying to say what I think you're saying, I disagree with your assessment. Yakupov was 1st overall in a weak draft, he wouldn't have been picked first over any of the recent #1 picks in the same draft
A draft's strength can't be measured accurately for at least 3 years so your weak draft assumption is way off base, particularly because the only person who I've heard say 2012 was a weak draft on a consistent basis was Brian Burke.

Hall is better than Eberle and Yakupov will be better than him too. There is no way any GM in the league trades Hall or Yakupov for Eberle straight up and if you're serious that you'd make that trade your judgment is questionable. Furthermore, saying that Eberle is better than Hall and Yakupov means that you believe Eberle would've been chosen #1 in either the 2010 or 2012 drafts. yeah good one!

I meant delete Fleury and Johson from the question because they're not forwards.

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both different styles of play definitely. Couturier plays a smart two way game at center while Yakupov style isn't based on defence but we all know he has wheels, it will be nice to have Edmonton running with one of the fastest skating teams, once again.

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If given the chances offensively I think Couturier could be a Toews clone and I value that higher than a small, offense only winger.
Couturier could be a Toews clone? LOL wow Couturier is so overrated it's ridiculous.

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In that case I truly think Couturier is all but guranteed to be a perennial candidate
David Backes, Ryan O'Reilly, Jonathan Teows, Pavel Datsyuk, Ryan Kesler, and hell you could even make a case for a few others now and down the road including RNH who many say backchecks like Datsyuk.

Datsyuk might be getting older but he's a genetic freak who might be one of the most fit players in the NHL, don't expect him to slow down anytime soon. I'll admit I see Couturier has a shot at being a Selke contender at some point but please don't use generalizations like "all but guaranteed to be a perennial candidate" when he has some amazing competition to contend with. You're acting like he's guaranteed to be as good as Datsyuk who is a very special player.

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People expecting couturier to be a Staal-Lite are going to be shocked.
And why is that?

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