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01-05-2013, 10:04 PM
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Edmonton - Luongo
Vancouver - Iginla
Calgary - ROR
Colorado - MPS, Dumba,
Minnesotta - Gagner
To make a 5 team in-division trade work is almost impossible. You haven't accomplished this either, but it's probably the best NW trade proposed in this thread.

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01-05-2013, 10:34 PM
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Haha gotta love feedback. Don't know why Minnesota fans think Brodziak for Glencross is horrible. Glencross has outscored Brodziak in each of the last 4 seasons.
Because Brodie is a center and we don't need a winger? As well he was a pretty valuable center with his contract. Filled in between the first and third line. His versatility is why he's valuable.

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01-05-2013, 10:36 PM
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To make a 5 team in-division trade work is almost impossible. You haven't accomplished this either, but it's probably the best NW trade proposed in this thread.
Not really. Minnesota doesn't need another bust at forward.

No one here has valued Minnesota's players right or gotten their needs

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01-05-2013, 10:39 PM
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Because Brodie is a center and we don't need a winger? As well he was a pretty valuable center with his contract. Filled in between the first and third line. His versatility is why he's valuable.
Sounds pretty similar to Glencross.

Both have similar contracts/similar age

As a Flames fan id rather hang onto Glencross, but both players seem to fill a similar roll on their respective teams.

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01-05-2013, 10:40 PM
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Not really. Minnesota doesn't need another bust at forward.

No one here has valued Minnesota's players right or gotten their needs
Not really sure how Gagner is a bust? (This coming from a Flames fan)

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This one I like the most, from what I've seen of all the NE Division ones are all solid...
Krejci for Sekera??

Boston easily declines.

B's #1 center for a mid-pairing dman? C'mon

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Not really sure how Gagner is a bust? (This coming from a Flames fan)
Gagner is as close to a bust as there is. Top-10 pick and he hasn't improved from his rookie #'s in 5 seasons ? = bust

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Gagner is as close to a bust as there is. Top-10 pick and he hasn't improved from his rookie #'s in 5 seasons ? = bust
He's not a bust, because he plays on a constant basis. He just simply has not lived up to his draft status, he's no Alexandre Daigle.

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Yeah..no thanks from Buffalo's perspective. We get hosed almost as bad as Montreal does here.
Buffalo gives up a 30 goal scorer who makes $7.5m and replaces him with a 27 goal scorer who makes $4m ($3.5m savings). Then it becomes Miller for Michalek. Not as bad as you suggest.

Perhaps something needs to be added to Montreal, draft pick or prospect.

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He's not a bust, because he plays on a constant basis. He just simply has not lived up to his draft status, he's no Alexandre Daigle.
But he's being used as their 2nd line center. He's being miscast.

Daigle actually scored more than Gagner, funny, they were only drafted 5 picks apart, yet Daigle is labeled a bust, but Oil fans swear til they're blue in the face that Gagner is legit.

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Gagner is as close to a bust as there is. Top-10 pick and he hasn't improved from his rookie #'s in 5 seasons ? = bust
I know he hasnt really improved on his point totals, but I wouldnt call that a bust.

Id consider a bust someone who is drafted in the top 10 and cant play in the NHL.

He may never be more then a 40-50 point center, but thats not a bust.

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I know he hasnt really improved on his point totals, but I wouldnt call that a bust.

Id consider a bust someone who is drafted in the top 10 and cant play in the NHL.

He may never be more then a 40-50 point center, but thats not a bust.
I said "close" to a bust. Nobody can deny that Gagner should not be an NHL 2nd line center. That's indisputable.

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Not really. Minnesota doesn't need another bust at forward.

No one here has valued Minnesota's players right or gotten their needs
I didn't say it was a good trade, just closer than anyone else has so far.

And Gagner is far from a bust.

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01-05-2013, 11:09 PM
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I said "close" to a bust. Nobody can deny that Gagner should not be an NHL 2nd line center. That's indisputable.
Close to a bust would be a highly picked player that is playing in the AHL a couple years after being picked that may never crack it fulltime in the NHL.

I guess we just have different definitions of "close" busts.

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No thanks from a Van perspective, and Calgary gets away nicely with only giving up an aging Tanguay and unproven offensive center in Backlund for Granlund.

The rest isn't bad.



This could be one of the best, although I'm a Ballard fan so I would probably rather keep Ballard than get Cullen.



That's pretty good, value lines up nicely



Strome for Larsson is brutal for NJ. Everything in the deal seems a step above Strome, maybe add something else going to NJ or change it from Strome to a young winger like Grabner or Okposo, even then I would want a tad more for Larsson if I was NJ.

Other than that not bad.
Give me Strome 10 x out of 10 before Grabner and Okposo

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01-06-2013, 12:08 AM
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Van-Iginla, Giordano
Cal-Duchene, Coyle, Whitney, Musil, Barrie
Edm-Suter, Schneider
Col-Edler, Tanguay
Min-Yakupov, Bouwmeester, Paajarvi

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01-06-2013, 12:12 AM
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Van-Iginla, Giordano
Cal-Duchene, Coyle, Whitney, Musil, Barrie
Edm-Suter, Schneider
Col-Edler, Tanguay
Min-Yakupov, Bouwmeester, Paajarvi
Confusing, but not bad. I think. I might've missed something lol

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Van-Iginla, Giordano
Cal-Duchene, Coyle, Whitney, Musil, Barrie
Edm-Suter, Schneider
Col-Edler, Tanguay
Min-Yakupov, Bouwmeester, Paajarvi
Easy no from Vancouver. Edler is better than Giordano, and there's no way I'd trade Schneider for Iginla. Luongo maybe, but not Schneider.

I think Minnesota wins this one. Suppose Coyle = MPS, that leaves Jaybo + Yakupov for Suter. The difference between Jaybo and Suter is not a potential 50-goal scorer.

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Easy no from Vancouver. Edler is better than Giordano, and there's no way I'd trade Schneider for Iginla. Luongo maybe, but not Schneider.

I think Minnesota wins this one. Suppose Coyle = MPS, that leaves Jaybo + Yakupov for Suter. The difference between Jaybo and Suter is not a potential 50-goal scorer.

Disagree.

They are not the same type of D, but skill wise they are both pretty similar, imo.

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Disagree.
Suit yourself then.

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Easy no from Vancouver. Edler is better than Giordano, and there's no way I'd trade Schneider for Iginla. Luongo maybe, but not Schneider.

I think Minnesota wins this one. Suppose Coyle = MPS, that leaves Jaybo + Yakupov for Suter. The difference between Jaybo and Suter is not a potential 50-goal scorer.
Edler also may not sign (not saying he won't, but it's possible)

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01-06-2013, 12:22 AM
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Suit yourself then.

I will, id love to here how Edler is better.

Not to mention Giordano has more trade value right now.

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I will, id love to here how Edler is better.

Not to mention Giordano has more trade value right now.
Edlers better, Giordano has more trade value.

That's how I see it.

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Easy no from Vancouver. Edler is better than Giordano, and there's no way I'd trade Schneider for Iginla. Luongo maybe, but not Schneider.

I think Minnesota wins this one. Suppose Coyle = MPS, that leaves Jaybo + Yakupov for Suter. The difference between Jaybo and Suter is not a potential 50-goal scorer.
Saw it more like Iggy for Edler(UFA for UFA) and Gio for Schneider. Give Van 2 great lines, for a cup run over the next few years before the window closes, while retaining there young forward and one top goalie. Can't really see Lou fitting with anyone in the NW. I think you drasticly underrate Coyle/overrate MPS.

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01-06-2013, 12:33 AM
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Edlers better, Giordano has more trade value.

That's how I see it.
I think Giordano is the better "all-around" d-man, can put up points, lay out big hits, good at shot blocking and is solid in his own zone.

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