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01-06-2013, 11:04 AM
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For the first year, the salary cap is $60 million but teams can spend up to $70.2 million in the transition period
first, what is the transition period?

second, we are over the cap (I've made some adjustments based on assumption -Pardy, Brennan, Porter)

FORWARDS
Thomas Vanek ($7.143m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.667m) / Jason Pominville ($5.300m)
Marcus Foligno ($0.900m) / Tyler Ennis ($2.813m) / Drew Stafford ($4.000m)
Ville Leino ($4.500m) / Steve Ott ($2.950m) / Nathan Gerbe ($1.450m)
John Scott ($0.600m) / Cody McCormick ($1.200m) / Patrick Kaleta ($1.250m)
Matt Ellis ($0.525m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Sekera ($2.750m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Alexander Sulzer ($0.725m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m)
Jordan Leopold ($3.000m) / Robyn Regehr ($4.020m)
Mike Weber ($0.950m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($6.250m)
Jhonas Enroth ($0.675m)



Time to start the Leopold trade rumors

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Next year cap is 64.3 million, cap can not go below that for length of the CBA.

Also one time deal next off season, 2 amnesty buyouts per team. Won't count against the cap, but will count against players share.

I don't believe there is any penalty for being above 60 million, but below the 70 figure.

I also believe players on one way contracts assigned to other leagues will count against the cap. With NHL minimum subtracted, ie if Pardy were assigned to Roch, Sabres cap hit would be his salary minus nhl minimum.


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i guess i misunderstood the transition period?

the transition period is the shortened season? huh

im confused... smart people, please chime in.

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The 2012-13 season will be a transition year — the upper level is set at $60 million with teams allowed to spend up to $70.2 million. In year two, the cap will move to $64.3 million (the NHL met the NHLPA’s request on that figure, as the league wanted it at $60 million.)
what does a 60 million cap mean, if its really 70 million??? im trying to understand what it means for THIS season...

and, my understanding is that amnesty buyouts wont be available until after this season

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The cap for this year is effectively the 70.2 number. The language is dumb.

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The cap for this year is effectively the 70.2 number. The language is dumb.
thanks, i thought it was me

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I also believe players on one way contracts assigned to other leagues will count against the cap. With NHL minimum subtracted, ie if Pardy were assigned to Roch, Sabres cap hit would be his salary minus nhl minimum.
first time i've heard this... so stashing contracts in the AHL will count against the cap?

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first time i've heard this... so stashing contracts in the AHL will count against the cap?

Yes, Europe as well i.e. Kotalik.

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Yes, Europe as well i.e. Kotalik.
i think kotalik's contract expired.

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i think kotalik's contract expired.
Yes, was using last year as an example. He would have counted against Sabres cap while playing in Europe.

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first time i've heard this... so stashing contracts in the AHL will count against the cap?
Well, yes and no.

The new rule is anything less than or equal to (minimum salary + $375,000) is exempt if stashed.
The minimum this season is $525,000 once again, so $900,000 or below is okay.
Anything else is charged as if the player was on the NHL roster.

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Well, yes and no.

The new rule is anything less than or equal to (minimum salary + $375,000) is exempt if stashed.
The minimum this season is $525,000 once again, so $900,000 or below is okay.
Anything else is charged as if the player was on the NHL roster.
so, example: if the sent McCormick down, they'd still carry 300k cap charge (1.2 - 0.9)

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so this is designed to prevent the Redden type of long term stashes?

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so, example: if the sent McCormick down, they'd still carry 300k cap charge (1.2 - 0.9)

?

so this is designed to prevent the Redden type of long term stashes?

cool
I don't believe they just charge the difference.
I think it's anything under $900,000 can be buried without penalty and anything greater is charged in full, but I guess we'll see when the new agreement is published.

But yes, it's made to prevent Redden-esque stashes that give rich teams and advantage.
It's also beneficial for the PA because many guys that would have been bought out in the old system (marginal guys making slightly more than minimum) can now be stashed without consequence, so their money can be removed from the system (rather than ordinary course buyouts, which are charged to the cap) and given to someone else, but that player will still get all of their money rather than just a portion.

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Am I right or wrong with this mindset? Explain.


A cap floor of 44 mil. A cap ceiling of 64 mil. Isn't that a huge gap? It seems the whole parity thing is thrown out the window. 20+ mil. Just seems huge. Why can't it be like 10-15%? Like 64 mil. ceiling. And a floor of 54-57 mil.?

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what does a 60 million cap mean, if its really 70 million??? im trying to understand what it means for THIS season...

and, my understanding is that amnesty buyouts wont be available until after this season
To further that 2nd point I thought that it was only one buyout this offseason, with the 2nd one coming next offseason.

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I take back what I said about charging the full hit and not just the difference:
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Any player on a one-way contract who plays in the American Hockey League with a salary in excess of the NHL's minimum salary plus $375,000 will have the excess amount charged against his team's salary cap.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...185797332.html

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I take back what I said about charging the full hit and not just the difference:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...185797332.html
good, i like it that way...

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I take back what I said about charging the full hit and not just the difference:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...185797332.html
That's pretty nice. They could still bury guys with deals slightly north of a million and not take much of a cap hit.

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