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01-06-2013, 10:57 AM
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Hall - Gagner - Eberle
Hartikainen - Nuge - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky
Jones - Belanger - Petrell
Paajarvi

RNH drops down to second line until FO % improves a bit, he will still be on top PP.

I don't know if I'd want to mess with Yaks positioning more than Hemsky. I'd like major goal scorers to stay in their natural position. In that case I guess the obvious is:

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Hem/Smyth - Gag - Yak
Smyth - Horcoff - Hem/Jones
Jones/Paajarvi - Belanger - Hartikainen
Paajarvi

Maybe something like that. I don't know.


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01-06-2013, 11:16 AM
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I didn't post much on HFOil during the lockout, probably because I'm a glutton for punishment and wanted to talk lockout on the BoH and Main boards, but damn. I'm glad to post and talk about the Oilers again.

I will say this... A shortened season favours a young team like the Oilers. Some older teams may have a slow start.

We will make the playoffs. 8th seed.

Improvement starts now.

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01-06-2013, 11:19 AM
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Good thing for you guys a snake bitten yakupov had a great game against Canada and should be ready to go for camp.

Hopefully you guys utilize him properly unlike the Russian team did. Cheers!

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01-06-2013, 11:33 AM
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Krueger's noted that Yakupov will set up on the RW during powerplays. I don't see any good reason why he shouldn't be flying down the RW at evens with Hemsky to his left. It just seems like a no brainer to keep the gun cocked and loaded at all times.

I'm not going to venture a guess at what we'll see in the forward lineup, we'll see soon enough with training camp. But if Yakupov plays a Top-6 role, I'd imagine the other Top-6 line will have a power-vs-power aspect to it.

The blueline IMO is more clear cut. We'll see 5-2, 15-19, 6-24.
For sure. IMO it's too much to pressure on the third line to have the entire top 6 needing soft minutes. Plus, nobody wants to watch them play 20 minutes a night. Horcoff/Belanger aren't good enough to play all the tough minutes and not look like they are drowning.

But I'm not sure the team has the players to do it. Which top 6 guys are ready for some more responsibility? Which need the softest minutes? (kind of a redundant question)

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My predicted line-up:

Hall - RNH - Eberle (thown more to the wolves this year)
Hartikainen - Gagner - Yakupov (sheltered)
Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky (tough minutes)
Petrell - Belanger - Jones (responsible enough for some tough minutes)

Softest forward lineup in the league?

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01-06-2013, 11:37 AM
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For sure. IMO it's too much to pressure on the third line to have the entire top 6 needing soft minutes. Plus, nobody wants to watch them play 20 minutes a night. Horcoff/Belanger aren't good enough to play all the tough minutes and not look like they are drowning.

But I'm not sure the team has the players to do it. Which top 6 guys are ready for some more responsibility? Which need the softest minutes? (kind of a redundant question)

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My predicted line-up:

Hall - RNH - Eberle (thown more to the wolves this year)
Hartikainen - Gagner - Yakupov (sheltered)
Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky (tough minutes)
Petrell - Belanger - Jones (responsible enough for some tough minutes)

Softest forward lineup in the league?
I'm not sure Hartikainen is coming up. Eberle, Schultz and Hall have been scratched from the OKC game tonight. No word on Hartikainen, if he plays tonight, you'd have to assume he's staying there (unless TC doesn't start on Wed as per the rumor)

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01-06-2013, 11:37 AM
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For sure. IMO it's too much to pressure on the third line to have the entire top 6 needing soft minutes. Plus, nobody wants to watch them play 20 minutes a night. Horcoff/Belanger aren't good enough to play all the tough minutes and not look like they are drowning.

But I'm not sure the team has the players to do it. Which top 6 guys are ready for some more responsibility? Which need the softest minutes? (kind of a redundant question)

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My predicted line-up:

Hall - RNH - Eberle (thown more to the wolves this year)
Hartikainen - Gagner - Yakupov (sheltered)
Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky (tough minutes)
Petrell - Belanger - Jones (responsible enough for some tough minutes)

Softest forward lineup in the league?
You forgot Eager and Hordichuk. Krueger has said that he'll give those guys a longer leash to run around and stir up some ****.

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01-06-2013, 11:41 AM
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I'm not sure Hartikainen is coming up. Eberle, Schultz and Hall have been scratched from the OKC game tonight. No word on Hartikainen, if he plays tonight, you'd have to assume he's staying there (unless TC doesn't start on Wed as per the rumor)
I think he'll probably play. If they've already pulled Hall and Eberle, they still need some guys in the line-up.

We should watch ice time though. I assume Nelson will give Arcobello, Green, etc a ton of ice time and let Paajarvi and Hartikainen take the odd shift off.

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01-06-2013, 11:45 AM
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No way Hemsky is on the third line. Imagine we'll see a combination of;

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov

or

Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Hemsky-RNH-Yakupov

Hemsky/Yakupov interchangeable on the wings. Think both will be dynamite together.

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01-06-2013, 11:58 AM
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I think he'll probably play. If they've already pulled Hall and Eberle, they still need some guys in the line-up.

We should watch ice time though. I assume Nelson will give Arcobello, Green, etc a ton of ice time and let Paajarvi and Hartikainen take the odd shift off.
I guess it's possibile, assuming a 23 man roster, we can only have 14 forwards max, 13 if they keep 8 defence:

Hall, Eberle, RNH, Gagner, Hemsky, Yakupov, Smyth, Horcoff, Belanger, Jones...are givens

Eager, Hordichuck, Petrell, Hartikainen and Paajarvi would be in the mix.

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01-06-2013, 12:00 PM
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Is Khabibulin even healthy right now?

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I'm not sure Hartikainen is coming up. Eberle, Schultz and Hall have been scratched from the OKC game tonight. No word on Hartikainen, if he plays tonight, you'd have to assume he's staying there (unless TC doesn't start on Wed as per the rumor)
Gregor tweeted that Hartikainen and Teubert have both been recalled, and 1 or 2 more players later this week.

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Is Khabibulin ever healthy?

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01-06-2013, 12:10 PM
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Yakupov won't be on the first unit PP unless you want to use him to stand in front of the net, which makes no sense. My guess is it will either be Harti or Horcoff since they will probably be playing a diamond again with Schultz and Ebs playing the D spots.

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01-06-2013, 12:16 PM
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You forgot Eager and Hordichuk. Krueger has said that he'll give those guys a longer leash to run around and stir up some ****.
I did miss Krueger saying that. Guess that leaves Petrell and/or Harti out, which sucks for me cus I like watching them play.

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01-06-2013, 12:23 PM
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Yakupov-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Hemsky
Smyth-Horcoff-Jones
Petrell-Belanger-Hartikainen
Hordichuk, Eager

Petry-Smid
Whitney-N.Schultz
J.Schultz-Peckham

Dubnyk
Khabibulin

PP1
Hall-RNH-Eberle
J.Schultz-Petry

PP2
Hemsky-Horcoff-Smyth
Whitney-Yakupov

PK Fwds
C: Horcoff, Belanger
W: Jones, Smyth, Petrell

PK D
Whitney, Petry, Smid, N.Schultz, Peckham

Keep in mind...the Oilers may be one of the busier teams in the 10-14-day offseason we are slated to have here. We could see some big moves made to address 2C, top-4D, and 1G

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01-06-2013, 12:28 PM
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Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Harti-RNH-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky
Eager-Belanger-Jones
Petrell

Smid-Petry
Schultz-Whitney
N Schultz-Sutton

Harti has earned it.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Yak start with Horcoff playing sheltered minutes.

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01-06-2013, 12:33 PM
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Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Harti-RNH-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky
Eager-Belanger-Jones
Petrell

Smid-Petry
Schultz-Whitney
N Schultz-Sutton

Harti has earned it.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Yak start with Horcoff playing sheltered minutes.
I might go one step further on sheltered minutes with your lineup.

Horcoff's line go against other teams top line. RNH/Yakupov/Harti, the whole line plays sheltered minutes against other team weaker lines.

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I would like to see RNH play with Yak, as Yak is a shooter and with a player like RNH that can feed the puck he will be that much better. Hall and Eberle have proven that they can produce without RNH and Gagner is still good with the puck.
Hall; Gagner; Eberle
Hemsky; RNH; Yak
PP1; Hall; RNH; Eberle
PP2; Hemsky; Gagner; Yak

If Whitney is some what healthy or defense won't be that bad;
Schultz; Schultz
Smid; Petry
Whitney; Peckham-Unless Sutton is healthy some how
This is what I had in mind, I can see RNH working better with Yak than Gagner would. I'm still really worried about our lack of size and faceoff win% in our top 6.

No doubt that our PP will be one of the best in the league, 5on5 on the other hand may be an issue.

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01-06-2013, 12:35 PM
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I think Yakupov will probably start on the 3rd line with Horcoff. Hemsky-Gagner/Nuge-Yak would be a disaster in their own end.

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I'd be tempted to try and move Hartikainen up the lineup to see if he can fit that physical top-6 winger role for us.

Again, he'd have to undergo a rapid development, but imagine the possibilities if he's a go...

Hartikainen-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky (helluva 3rd line I'd say)

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What i want to see.....

Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Hartikainen-RNH-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky
Jones-Belanger-Eager

Smid-Petry
N. Schultz-J. Schultz
Whitney-Peckham

What i think Krueger will roll with.....

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Smyth-Gagner-Hemsky
Jones-Horcoff-Yakupov
Eager-Belanger-Petrell

Smid-Petry
Whitney-J. Schultz
N. Schultz-Peckham

I don't like keeping Hall-RNH-Eberle on one line, i'd rather spread out the scoring plus i don't think they have as much chemistry and a lot of people seem to think they do.
I think that Hartikainen would be a good fit on the 2nd line to supply a physical presence and have somebody to win board battles and free up Yakupov who operates much better with space.
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky would be a good veteran line to play against the toughs and have some offensive punch with Hemsky, spreads out the scoring over 3 lines.

Smid and Petry together goes without saying, i much prefer to have N. Schultz paired with J. Schultz but i have a feeling that Krueger will place Whitney there to balance out the "shutdown" pairing of Smid and Petry with a scoring duo.
It's pretty obvious that we need a top 4 (preferrably top pairing) defenseman. I'm very skeptical of this group, way too many question marks especially with Petry having not played competitive hockey since last season, Smid being injured, Whitney always being a health question mark and Schultz being a rookie. Could be a very rough season for this group especially early.


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01-06-2013, 12:48 PM
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Eberle - Horcoff - Hall
Schultz - Nuge

Gagner - Smyth - Yakupov
Hemsky - Whitney

In italics is the top of the diamond.

Makes the most sense IMO in terms of PP.

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What i want to see.....

Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Hartikainen-RNH-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky
Jones-Belanger-Eager

Petry-Smid
N. Schultz-J. Schultz
Whitney-Peckham

What i think Krueger will roll with.....

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Smyth-Gagner-Hemsky
Jones-Horcoff-Yakupov
Eager-Belanger-Petrell

Petry-Smid
Whitney-J. Schultz
N. Schultz-Peckham

I don't like keeping Hall-RNH-Eberle on one line, i'd rather spread out the scoring plus i don't think they have as much chemistry and a lot of people seem to think they do.
I think that Hartikainen would be a good fit on the 2nd line to supply a physical presence and have somebody to win board battles and free up Yakupov who operates much better with space.
Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky would be a good veteran line to play against the toughs and have some offensive punch with Hemsky, spreads out the scoring over 3 lines.

Smid and Petry together goes without saying, i much prefer to have N. Schultz paired with J. Schultz but i have a feeling that Krueger will place Whitney there to balance out the "shutdown" pairing of Smid and Petry with a scoring duo.
It's pretty obvious that we need a top 4 (preferrably top pairing) defenseman. I'm very skeptical of this group, way too many question marks especially with Petry having not played competitive hockey since last season, Smid being injured, Whitney always being a health question mark and Schultz being a rookie. Could be a very rough season for this group especially early.
I like your fwd line up better than the one you think Krueger may roll with.

I think that Krueger lineup can be a disaster on the road because it can't defend.

Yakupov with Horcoff is counter productive because Horcoff can't feed offense to Yak. And Yak has no clue on defense and can't help Horcoff defensively

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With Jones injured this is a big chance for someone like Eager to show he is a different player this season.

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