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01-06-2013, 10:33 AM
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Amnesty Buyouts

I'm not exactly positive on how they work, but it looks like every team under this new CBA is allowed 2 buyouts after this season, partly to help get down to the new cap. On 670 The Score this morning the 2 names listed to buyout for the Blackhawks were Montador and, surprisingly Hossa.

Just throwing it out there. Maybe someone can explain the buyouts a little better or has other players they would rather buyout.

I would buyout Montador and Olesz.

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01-06-2013, 10:41 AM
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I agree on Montador and Olesz if Olesz counts against the cap. If not, Montador and Frolik.

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01-06-2013, 10:47 AM
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You have to keep all options on the table. If Hossa has another head injury this year, you might have to go that route.

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Word is you can have one this summer and one the following summer if you choose.

Buy out Olesz this summer, wait to see who to buy out the following summer based on next years season.

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01-06-2013, 10:57 AM
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That would be so terrible to buy out Hossa. Not terribly unrealistic but just awful to think about

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Montador and Olesz would be my guesses.

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01-06-2013, 11:06 AM
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The Score is dead on with the two.


You are gonna have to buy out Hossa. It was inevitable with his history of injury as of late and the length of his contract.

The Hawks are just being financially responsible, cant blame them.

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01-06-2013, 11:08 AM
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Hossa would have to be Savardian unhealthy for the hawks to do it.

No free agent would ever come to Chicago again if they bought out a big name elite player because his play dips after a major injury.

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01-06-2013, 11:11 AM
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Hossa would have to be Savardian unhealthy for the hawks to do it.

No free agent would ever come to Chicago again if they bought out a big name elite player because his play dips after a major injury.
Free agents will go where the money is. Philly will but out Briz and Pronger and they'll continue to get free agents

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01-06-2013, 11:16 AM
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Hossa would have to be Savardian unhealthy for the hawks to do it.
Well, the contract was a joke from the beginning, lets not forget that.
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No free agent would ever come to Chicago again if they bought out a big name elite player because his play dips after a major injury.
Its a buyers market, sure they will come.

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01-06-2013, 11:19 AM
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I wouldnt be completely against buying out Hossa. Maybe they can buy him out and then re-sign him to a shorter/less money contract?

If we lose him completely, our team will go further down the drain.

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01-06-2013, 11:21 AM
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No on Hossa.

Frolik and Montador for sure. Stanton and Olsen need looks at some point. Monty's head will explode sooner or later. Frolik is all about getting in the right areas and not cashing in.

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01-06-2013, 11:42 AM
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It may be possible to circumvent the new CBA whereas a team buys out a player and then re-signs them to a long term lower salary to fit better under the cap. Not sure if this will be possible under the new CBA until we are filled in on the exact contents of the new CBA. Of any of the bigger contracts, Hossa's makes the most sense in buying out and then either Olesz or Montador.

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01-06-2013, 11:44 AM
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No on Hossa.

Frolik and Montador for sure. Stanton and Olsen need looks at some point. Monty's head will explode sooner or later. Frolik is all about getting in the right areas and not cashing in.
Frolik has 1 yr left after this season at 2.33M cap hit (1.9M actual salary)

Buying him out is waste of a buyout ,, He is tradeable if need be

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01-06-2013, 11:46 AM
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Frolik has 1 yr left after this season at 2.33M cap hit (1.9M actual salary)

Buying him out is waste of a buyout ,, He is tradeable if need be
I like how you bring up wastes when you consider he's a waste of a roster spot.

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I like how you bring up wastes when you consider he's a waste of a roster spot.
I agree, but he shouldn't be bought out, doesn't make as much sense as others.

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I wouldnt be completely against buying out Hossa. Maybe they can buy him out and then re-sign him to a shorter/less money contract?

If we lose him completely, our team will go further down the drain.
Yeah that will go well...

Bowman: "Hey Marian, remember that MASSIVE contract you signed that would have you get paid millions of $$$ for the next 10 years?"

Hossa: "Yeah of course i do! I love that contract and the millions of $$$!"

Bowman: "Great well since you were throttled by Torres and we're not sure if you're going to be the same player again we're going to buy you out. But then we're going to give you a NEW contract where you make less money and for not as long! Sound good?"

Hossa: "Sure! I love making less money! I also love signing new contracts after we already agree to a contract a few years ago! Thanks Mr. Bowman!"

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You can't re-sign a player you just bought out.


Buying out Hossa is a dumb idea anyway. His cap hit isn't bad at all.

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I agree, but he shouldn't be bought out, doesn't make as much sense as others.
I prefer him to be bought out. Unless I completely missed something (Olesz counting against the cap), I'd try to flip Frolik for a seventh-round pick. If no deal, buy his sorry ass out. I don't even want to get into his fluke playoff performances.

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I prefer him to be bought out. Unless I completely missed something (Olesz counting against the cap), I'd try to flip Frolik for a seventh-round pick. If no deal, buy his sorry ass out. I don't even want to get into his fluke playoff performances.
Olesz is obvious, Monty and even Oduya make more sense than Frolik. And I like Oduya.

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They aren't going to apply it to Oduya right after an extension. If Stanley thought the deal was dumb, he would not have offered it to him in the first place.

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Does anyone know whether AHL contracts (like Olesz) will count against the cap or can teams still buy salary in the AHL?

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01-06-2013, 12:09 PM
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Unless the Hawks and Hossa know something that we don't...there's no way in hell that Hossa gets bought out. He's one of our best players.

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Yeah that will go well...

Bowman: "Hey Marian, remember that MASSIVE contract you signed that would have you get paid millions of $$$ for the next 10 years?"

Hossa: "Yeah of course i do! I love that contract and the millions of $$$!"

Bowman: "Great well since you were throttled by Torres and we're not sure if you're going to be the same player again we're going to buy you out. But then we're going to give you a NEW contract where you make less money and for not as long! Sound good?"

Hossa: "Sure! I love making less money! I also love signing new contracts after we already agree to a contract a few years ago! Thanks Mr. Bowman!"
Pretty sure Hossa would get 2/3s of whats left on his current contract, and then he would also get his new contract, which could make him more money in the end.

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Unless the Hawks and Hossa know something that we don't...there's no way in hell that Hossa gets bought out. He's one of our best players.
Hey, you, stop bringing logic into this.

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