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01-05-2013, 11:40 PM
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Assuming the lockout ends and half a season is salvageable...and other forwards/centres are expendable because of teams shedding salaries. Would this deal be a good fit?

To Phoenix - Grabovski
To Leafs - Klesla

Toronto's defense isn't filled with shutdown type guys and Klesla would fit the mould.

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01-05-2013, 11:44 PM
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We need Grabovski, no one else can play second line center as effectively, we'd have to play someone like Connolly, which we really don't want to do. If Phoenix wants wingers, making a deal would be a lot easier.

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We need Grabovski, no one else can play second line center as effectively, we'd have to play someone like Connolly, which we really don't want to do. If Phoenix wants wingers, making a deal would be a lot easier.
While I agree that Grabo is important in the 2nd line position. BUT if a guy who can be had (JUST FOR EXAMPLE Lecavalier due to cap implications with a reduced salary cap this season) and guys like Kadri pushing hard to make the club and in a top 6 role couldn't Grabo become expendable?

a 2nd line of:

Van Riemsdyk/Kadri/(1 of) MacArthur/Frattin/Kulemin be a solid 2nd line?

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If MacArthur was signed, would MacArthur for Klesla be do-able?

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The reason why the Leafs would want Kesla is the same reason why the Coyotes will keep him.A smart physical, shutdown d-man with a little offensive upside.


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While I agree that Grabo is important in the 2nd line position. BUT if a guy who can be had (JUST FOR EXAMPLE Lecavalier due to cap implications with a reduced salary cap this season) and guys like Kadri pushing hard to make the club and in a top 6 role couldn't Grabo become expendable?

a 2nd line of:

Van Riemsdyk/Kadri/(1 of) MacArthur/Frattin/Kulemin be a solid 2nd line?
Sure. Grabovski could become expendable IF the Leafs bring in a new top-six center, Kadri emerges, Bozak improves, Connolly returns to form etc.

Is he currently expendable? No.

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01-06-2013, 09:50 AM
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While I agree that Grabo is important in the 2nd line position. BUT if a guy who can be had (JUST FOR EXAMPLE Lecavalier due to cap implications with a reduced salary cap this season) and guys like Kadri pushing hard to make the club and in a top 6 role couldn't Grabo become expendable?

a 2nd line of:

Van Riemsdyk/Kadri/(1 of) MacArthur/Frattin/Kulemin be a solid 2nd line?
The salary cap implications that might make Lecavalier available, are the same implications that would lead the Leafs to have absolutely no interest in him.

As for your suggestion, no, there isn't a centre in there. Toronto is weak at the top of their lineup in the context of centres. Grabovski is our best centre. He's untouchable, unless it's for a better centre.

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I'd do it in a heart beat as a Coyotes fan. Value leans heavily in our favor.

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Assuming Toronto is not able to upgrade with a #1 Centre over the next few days there is now way I would trade Grabovski. The last two seasons he has been one of their better players and they would still need him.

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Klesla is a great defensive d-man, but he isn't worth Grabo

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I think if the rumors are true that Kulemin is wanted by Edmonton, we could package him for Sam Gagner. Putting him on a line with Lupul & Kessel could be lethal. And would actually remind me of a similar line that Burke/Carlyle had in Anaheim.

Kunitz/McDonald/Selanne

could easily be Lupul/Gagner/Kessel

Then a 2nd line of JVR/Kadri/MacArthur or Frattin would make a solid top 6 and could make Grabo expendable.

People seem to say its too one sided on this board so maybe Grabo for Klesla & 1st in 2013? or at very least Klesla & 2nd in 2013?

Thoughts??

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I think if the rumors are true that Kulemin is wanted by Edmonton, we could package him for Sam Gagner. Putting him on a line with Lupul & Kessel could be lethal. And would actually remind me of a similar line that Burke/Carlyle had in Anaheim.

Kunitz/McDonald/Selanne

could easily be Lupul/Gagner/Kessel

Then a 2nd line of JVR/Kadri/MacArthur or Frattin would make a solid top 6 and could make Grabo expendable.

People seem to say its too one sided on this board so maybe Grabo for Klesla & 1st in 2013? or at very least Klesla & 2nd in 2013?

Thoughts??
Package Kule for Gagner???

Lol it'll be Gagner ++ for Kule

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Package Kule for Gagner???

Lol it'll be Gagner ++ for Kule
Meant make a deal but it could be more then just those 2 guys moving teams. Was merely a suggestion.

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Haha yeah Phoenix takes this and run. Grabovski is one of the few good Leafs and while the Leafs need to fix their horrible D and G situation doing this one-for-one trade is not it.

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Assuming the lockout ends and half a season is salvageable...and other forwards/centres are expendable because of teams shedding salaries. Would this deal be a good fit?

To Phoenix - Grabovski
To Leafs - Klesla

Toronto's defense isn't filled with shutdown type guys and Klesla would fit the mould.

Thoughts??
No way!!, ill keep are little pibull in grabo

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I think if the rumors are true that Kulemin is wanted by Edmonton, we could package him for Sam Gagner. Putting him on a line with Lupul & Kessel could be lethal. And would actually remind me of a similar line that Burke/Carlyle had in Anaheim.

Kunitz/McDonald/Selanne

could easily be Lupul/Gagner/Kessel

Then a 2nd line of JVR/Kadri/MacArthur or Frattin would make a solid top 6 and could make Grabo expendable.

People seem to say its too one sided on this board so maybe Grabo for Klesla & 1st in 2013? or at very least Klesla & 2nd in 2013?

Thoughts??
...and what about the anticipated trade of Bozak to Vancouver?

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