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09-11-2012, 09:22 PM
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as long as faceoffs aren't involved I'm happy.
Mike Zigomanis all day!

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as long as faceoffs aren't involved I'm happy.
Or faceoffs.

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Got room for one more?
As it stands I've sent 13 invites (plus myself)...if there's a no show I'll send you a message.

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every real life center yahoo calls a wing all day!

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Or faceoffs.



As it stands I've sent 13 invites (plus myself)...if there's a no show I'll send you a message.
Good stuff, thanks.

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Awesome, glad this got started (and thanks for taking charge McLargeHuge).

Now, all we need is a season

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I'd love to get in on this if it's not to late.

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I have made my feelings known on SOG.

Executive summary for those not signed in yet: we can't let it happen as fans of the beautiful game. *cue emotional music*

Better idea IMHO : Hits (although I'd be OK omitting both SOG and hits).

I think it's useful to have a mix of offensive and defensive stats, which aren't completely random and disconnected from how productive a player actually is. I've been in leagues that used either SOG or Faceoffs and both skewed the balance of the league for those who actually drafted well.

Also McLarge has shown his mettle as a commish, given the quality of the invite. Impressive.

Also: Standard Draft = Snake Draft? It should be with 14 players ; How is draft order being determined?


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09-12-2012, 06:35 PM
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I got my info and will sign in later today/tomorrowish. Thinking up a name.

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09-12-2012, 09:07 PM
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Standard random draft positions and snake draft. I hope the time works for everyone, but let me know if issues arise. I'll probably be the most difficult to work with since I'm a closer who'll be attending night classes at the time, so the draft will have to be earlier in the day.

Hits will never be a stat in a league I run. As crappy as SoG is, at least it's a fair stat. The Islanders aren't going to give Matt Martin 200 extra shots just because...**** it they're the Islanders and have nothing else to root for. Hits are just handled too differently from arena-to-arena to be a legitimate fantasy category. SoG is a crap stat, but it's better than faceoffs, hits, short-handed points, and that kind of stuff. I'd rather add another forward spot than switch to a score-keeper stat.

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09-12-2012, 10:53 PM
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Fair enough. Blocked shots is another option but that is mostly related to D. I think in any case we'd be better without the stat (even if we don't add another one or if we add another F).

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my only stat concern is shutouts. Don't like it in a roto league, the numbers are just too low. 20 in a season will almost guarantee you are the leader in shutouts with 164 goalie games played. Not to mention, as it stands 14% of our roster (2 goalies) will decide 40% of our statistics (4 of 10 stats). I'd personally say just drop shutouts to balance that out a bit. At least then goalies are only worth 1/3 of the stats.


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Roto scoring means as you rack up stats you rack up points and you're going against all other teams every week, right?

Is there a way to weight the stats so that things like SOG, +- and SO generate fewer points than everything else?

If G, A, W, = 1 pt (in theory), SOG and +- should = .1 and SO should be about .3 in terms of adding to our point totals. Literally. Those are accurate weightings IMO.

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Roto scoring means as you rack up stats you rack up points and you're going against all other teams every week, right?
Nothing weekly at all. Its just continuous until the season is over. Every stat category is worth the same points as you have teams. So with 12 teams, first place in Goals gets you 12 points and last place gets 1 point. It's not like football. You can't just score 1000 goals and nothing else, because you'll only win goals.

Your score will be between 120 points (first place in all 10 categories) and 10 points (last place in all 10 categories.) Every time one person gains points, someone else loses the same points because they got passed up in a specific stat. Ties split it, so if you are tied for 1st each will have 11.5 instead of 12 and 11.

Our league is 14 teams I guess. So first place in each stat is worth 14 points.

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If G, A, W, = 1 pt (in theory), SOG and +- should = .1 and SO should be about .3 in terms of adding to our point totals. Literally. Those are accurate weightings IMO.
would be nice. can't do it. That part is no different than weekly head to head stats.


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On the topic of Yahoo hockey, I renewed my league from last year and sent out the invites to those who were in it to re-join. If not everybody re-joins, I'll have some open spaces for people on here to join if they want another league.

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Nothing weekly at all. Its just continuous until the season is over. Every stat category is worth the same points as you have teams. So with 12 teams, first place in Goals gets you 12 points and last place gets 1 point. It's not like football. You can't just score 1000 goals and nothing else, because you'll only win goals.

Your score will be between 120 points (first place in all 10 categories) and 10 points (last place in all 10 categories.) Every time one person gains points, someone else loses the same points because they got passed up in a specific stat. Ties split it, so if you are tied for 1st each will have 11.5 instead of 12 and 11.

Our league is 14 teams I guess. So first place in each stat is worth 14 points.


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would be nice. can't do it. That part is no different than weekly head to head stats.

THanks for the clarifications and "that blows", respectively. Why would these bozos not put a feature in that let's us weight the less useful stats?

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Signed up. Also going to be optimistic, if there is no season I've tied for 1st place!!...

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THanks for the clarifications and "that blows", respectively. Why would these bozos not put a feature in that let's us weight the less useful stats?
the same reason ESPN doesn't let us do it for the same stats in our other league. which is there is no reason. It's no different though.

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Alrighty folks, draft time set for next Sunday (the 13th) at 4 eastern/1 pacific.

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Alrighty folks, draft time set for next Sunday (the 13th) at 4 eastern/1 pacific.
I completely forgot I was in this league. Go Staalin

time to break out the excel sheets again. When will we know draft order?


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Noooooooooo... my team was so bad ass!!!!!

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I completely forgot I was in this league. Go Staalin

time to break out the excel sheets again. When will we know draft order?
Probably right before the draft. If you guys want I can set up a lottery system to determine the order today.

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