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I like the shortened season, what would it take to make it permanent?

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01-06-2013, 02:57 PM
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I like the shortened season, what would it take to make it permanent?

Factoring less revenue matched with less salary and less arena dates, would it even be possible? I'll be honest, I don't start paying attention to hockey anyway till mid January because of football so this season has been great for me.

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beyond 1 year CBA's being signed every time, nothing. You'd have to convince both sides that less revenue is good.

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Why would the teams that sell out 41 home games a year be remotely interested in cutting that revenue stream down to 25 or so?

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To be perfectly honest I wouldn't mind a 70 game schedule with the playoff ending a month earlier. Something about Hockey in Mid June that doesn't seem right

I actually do think this might be sellable since you probably would have similar TV deals revenues, you cut down on travel expenses and for teams who don't sell out regularly having 6 less games might increase average attendance.

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Have two Seasons, two Playoffs.

That's what they do here in Mexico with soccer; though clearly the two Seasons are not one followed directly by the other.


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Never going to happen.

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Either convince players to take a 50% salary cut, or convince the fans that doubling ticket prices is fine.

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I agree. 80 games is too many.

Start the season on Dec 1 and have the Stanley Cup awarded no later than April 1st.

But if teams are selling out 40 home games....

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It's fine.............geez. Leave it alone. Hockey is finally back after months of us waiting for it and someone suggests we should do this every year? 82 games is fine. 16 teams in the postseason is fine too. It's like the NFL, they have a 16 game season with the perfect amount of teams getting in there. Leave it alone. Play hockey and don't even think about doing anymore tinkering.

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I think there are too many games during normal years, players tire, the product suffers, the season drags on way too late and starts too early.

I'd like to see the season start in late October and be over by June. So 70 games would be perfect.

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82 games is fine, having a half-season is not something you want as a permanent situation. right now the 48 game season is like the 1995 season, the minimum you can throw together and still call it a season. the nba had a 50 game season in 1999, that is regarded as an aberration by many fans.

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An NFL like national TV deal.


(never going to happen, obviously)

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I think there are too many games during normal years, players tire, the product suffers, the season drags on way too late and starts too early.

I'd like to see the season start in late October and be over by June. So 70 games would be perfect.
It's perfect like that. Weeds out the wusses.

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Factoring less revenue matched with less salary and less arena dates, would it even be possible? I'll be honest, I don't start paying attention to hockey anyway till mid January because of football so this season has been great for me.
Haven't read any posts, so sorry if it's already been answered. It will never happen. Owners make their money off of the gate. That means they need home appearances to pay players. Unless the players were to sign off on a 60 game schedule - about the shortest I could ever see them going to, and take a 25% pay cut (both the cap, and in general), it would never come close to happening.

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Factoring less revenue matched with less salary and less arena dates, would it even be possible? I'll be honest, I don't start paying attention to hockey anyway till mid January because of football so this season has been great for me.
more lockouts/lockout every year would give you or desired results.

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Is season length something that's collectively bargained? How did baseball go about making the switch.

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Is season length something that's collectively bargained? How did baseball go about making the switch.
I can't see how it's not. Also, as the PA's money is based off of HRR, it would take a hit if the NHL started shortening the season, and they would have to get the players to buy into it.

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Factoring less revenue matched with less salary and less arena dates, would it even be possible? I'll be honest, I don't start paying attention to hockey anyway till mid January because of football so this season has been great for me.
Find a way to time-travel to the 1920s. You can then enjoy several decades of nhl seasons with 40-60 games.

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I LOVE NFL however I always watch hockey from oct all the way to june

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To be perfectly honest I wouldn't mind a 70 game schedule with the playoff ending a month earlier. Something about Hockey in Mid June that doesn't seem right

I actually do think this might be sellable since you probably would have similar TV deals revenues, you cut down on travel expenses and for teams who don't sell out regularly having 6 less games might increase average attendance.
I agree. 70-72 game season, and start it the first week of October. You could finish by the playoffs by the end of May, and only have to play about 10-11 games per month along the way.

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Hockey should start in November. Training camp in September is a bit ridiculous.

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I certainly wouldn't mind if the regular season was reduced to 70-72 games.

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I should say too I would want the season to end earlier rather then start later.

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You will need to do more than doubling ticket prices. I doubt NBC and others would want to pay the same amount for almost half the amount of games.

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You would have to have a lockout every year for that to happen.

I would personally like so see the season at 76 games, but 82 is not going away

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