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01-06-2013, 04:19 PM
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am I the only one who likes Sestito over Rinaldo?
i would not mind seeing that

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01-06-2013, 04:20 PM
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The reason to play one of the rookies would be to be able to roll 4 lines. No point in playing Laughton if you're gonna tryn hide him at 4C.
Doesn't couturier's development last year suggest otherwise.

Laughton projects as a 3c right? He doesn't seem to have (realistic) top-six offensive upside.

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01-06-2013, 04:22 PM
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i would not mind seeing that
They are sorta the same player....

When does a sched get posted??

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01-06-2013, 04:25 PM
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They are sorta the same player....

When does a sched get posted??
Yea both players are just 5-6 minute players anyway. They dont do much otherwise.

I dont know for sure but Eskin said somethig about saturday is the first day camp begins. My guess if hes right saturday is health check and Sunday is the first start

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01-06-2013, 04:26 PM
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Is that right? Why not?
The Flyers didn't put him on the CHL recall list. He's not eligible.

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Why would it be dumb? If i remember correctly he has played wing at times this past season. Nothing dumb trying him there
Unless you want to completely ignore player development, it is a foolish idea. First off, he needs the time to develop his offensive game at the junior level. He's decent offensively now, but you want him to take his game to the next level. You play him on the big club, he'll get limited ice time and no PP time. How is that good for his development? Secondly he is a natural center whose game is centered around his two way play. Playing a raw, 18 year old, out of position at the highest possible level wouldn't make much sense. You can get better production and not burn a year off his ELC if someone else is in that spot.

I'm all for him getting the 9 game trial if there is an injury or he proves his worth, but I think people are getting a little spoiled by what Couturier did last year. Couturier had already dominated his league for two seasons, was more mature, and a year further along in his development.

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01-06-2013, 04:28 PM
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I rather see Wellwood on the 4th line and give Akeson a look on the 3rd line with Couts and Read. Watching yesterdays phantoms game Akeson, Schenn and Couturier were out together several times and they looked pretty damn good. they also worked the pp together so maybe some chemistry can be carried over. playing on a line with Couturier and Read would also cover up any of Akesons defensive short comings but honestly he's been much more responsible this year. just a thought

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01-06-2013, 04:29 PM
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When does a sched get posted??
in a day or two, it would appear

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01-06-2013, 04:31 PM
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Doesn't couturier's development last year suggest otherwise.

Laughton projects as a 3c right? He doesn't seem to have (realistic) top-six offensive upside.
My point was more that I don't see Wellwood - Laughton - Fedotenko being a line that can take a regular shift. If that's your 4th line they're only gonna see spot duty.

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The Flyers didn't put him on the CHL recall list. He's not eligible.
Ahhhh. I dont recall having seen that list.

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01-06-2013, 04:41 PM
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Second unit could look like this:

Schenn-Briere-Read
Gus-Couturier

Its pretty likely he goes 4 forwards on both PPs. Just a matter of who QBs it. The second unit lacks a big body presence IMO.
Two words: Jody Shelley.



In all seriousness, you probably have to split up Hartnell and Simmonds. Having both out was kind of overkill anyhow.


down-low - down-low
left half-wall - right half-wall
point

Read - Hartnell
Giroux - Voracek
Timonen

Simmonds-Schenn
Briere-Couturier
Meszaros

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01-06-2013, 04:51 PM
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Why don't we let Cousins play in a top 9 winger role before we think about what to do with Laughton?

Guy produces on a very high level since last year and is, imo, much better suited for a winger role.

At least, if he's qualified, offer him the 10 game try-out.

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01-06-2013, 05:03 PM
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Two words: Jody Shelley.



In all seriousness, you probably have to split up Hartnell and Simmonds. Having both out was kind of overkill anyhow.


down-low - down-low
left half-wall - right half-wall
point

Read - Hartnell
Giroux - Voracek
Timonen

Simmonds-Schenn
Briere-Couturier
Meszaros
That first unit was so dominant though with Simmonds and Hartnell in front that it would be hard to split them up.

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01-06-2013, 06:49 PM
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Yeah I know. This was one of my concerns in the offseason. Timonen is the only PP QB we have. Gus has to win a spot in the top 6 and even he has no experience on the PP in the NHL. Couturier? Maybe, haven't seen enough Phantoms games.
I think Mez would work there, though I'm not sure about his creative passing game. He'd be up there more as a cannon. Coburn as well, but his decision making on when to shoot is sketchy.

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Mez and Couturier could work because Mez has a cannon and Couts is responsible enough defensively if something goes the other way.
But Couts isn't fast enough to get back. Read and Voracek will probably be the 2nd D on PPs.

I just hope we don't stack Simmonds and Hartnell in front of the net like last year. Worked for a little bit, but it sacrificed both our front of the net guys to the same PP unit...

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01-06-2013, 06:57 PM
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I think Mez would work there, though I'm not sure about his creative passing game. He'd be up there more as a cannon. Coburn as well, but his decision making on when to shoot is sketchy.
I don't

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01-06-2013, 07:01 PM
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I don't
And your other options are:...?

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And your other options are:...?
That was my point earlier. Not many options.

Gus
Read
Couturier

are the best options to me. Don't know about Gervais.

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01-06-2013, 07:16 PM
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That was my point earlier. Not many options.

Gus
Read
Couturier

are the best options to me. Don't know about Gervais.
He played the PP in the past, why can't he do it now. And Gervais was brought in as an option for the PP. Couturier and Read will be on it as well.

Hartnell-Giroux-Simmonds
Timonen-Voracek

Schenn-Briere-Couturier
Read-Meszaros

Read played the Point last year opposite of Jagr towards the end of the year. I think its likely we see the same thing with Couturier where Jagr was. And Meszaros instead of Carle.

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01-06-2013, 07:19 PM
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That was my point earlier. Not many options.

Gus
Read
Couturier

are the best options to me. Don't know about Gervais.
Couturier has not been good there at all in the AHL, combined with the fact that he's pretty slow I don't think he's a good option there. It's between Read, Gus and Mez in my opinion. Realistically with Mez just getting back from his injury and Gus still out, if the season started today I would say Read is the best option. He's got the hockey sense, the passing ability, the speed and is defensively responsible.

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01-06-2013, 08:19 PM
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Any thoughts on Brian Rolston....1 year cheap if he would accept. Adds forward depth and a good shot from the point?

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01-06-2013, 08:23 PM
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He played the PP in the past, why can't he do it now. And Gervais was brought in as an option for the PP. Couturier and Read will be on it as well.
I know he can play the PP. He can't QB it though.

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Couturier has not been good there at all in the AHL, combined with the fact that he's pretty slow I don't think he's a good option there. It's between Read, Gus and Mez in my opinion. Realistically with Mez just getting back from his injury and Gus still out, if the season started today I would say Read is the best option. He's got the hockey sense, the passing ability, the speed and is defensively responsible.
As I said earlier Couturier's foot speed does worry me. He seems like a good enough playmaker though. Read could do it, but he doesn't really have experience doing it. He played the point last year, but Carle was the one QBing. Gervais, I have no idea about him, but if anything I think he's a triggerman rather than a QB.

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01-06-2013, 08:55 PM
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I personally like Sestito a lot for our fourth line. Gervais and Mez could be a terrible pairing because I know Mez does not like to play D and is out of position a lot. So Gervais/Schenn and Grossmann/Mez may be the better pairings. If he is healthy enough to play this season.

Hartnell/Giroux/Voracek
Schenn/Briere/Simmonds
Talbot/Couts/Read
Feds/Laughton?/Sestito
Rinaldo

Kimmo/Coburn
Schenn/Grossmann
Gervais/Mez
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Would anyone right now take Laughton over a struggling Wellwood?
I don't know, he was one of my favourite players on the team last year. I know he's never going to be a star, but I like him on the third/fourth line. His stats are concerning, though, but they don't necessarily translate to the NHL. It's a different league, after all. Plus, I think there are other options ahead of Laughton, even though I'm not opposed to maybe giving him a chance, as well. But he's going to be a grinder at this stage, and I think we can find one of those any day of the week, and let him develop his game in the OHL a bit more.

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Any thoughts on Brian Rolston....1 year cheap if he would accept. Adds forward depth and a good shot from the point?
I like the guy a lot, I won't lie. So I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to acquiring him, but that would only leave one spot for our prospects (Rinaldo/Sestito/Wellwood/...), which I'm not sure is the best idea.

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I personally like Sestito a lot for our fourth line.
Yup, so do I, at least from the few games I've seen him play in. I didn't make him see any bad plays, he's a good grinder, and he even made for some dangerous offensive plays (ours, before someone jumps on it )

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I like Sestito. He's big, loves to throw his weight around, and has a better offensive game than Rinaldo. Like Rinaldo he takes dumb penalties and seems to have a bit of a reputation amongst the refs. Willing fighter, not great, but can hold his own against non-heavyweights.

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01-06-2013, 10:55 PM
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Thinking about the defensive pairings, I would like to see something abit different. This most likely wont happen (since Gus will probably be hurt) but:

Timonen-Schenn
Coburn-Meszaros
Gustafsson-Grossmann

Even amount of defensive players + offensive. We have Schenn being mentored in a sense by Timonen. The Meszaros-Gervias pairing is going to give me heart attacks at times. A "just back from injury" Mez with a guy who all the teams he played on in the past nicknamed him Brutal Gervias.

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