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01-06-2013, 06:48 PM
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That winger would likely be Michalek.

Jason Spezza: 80GP-34G-50A-84P
Milan Michalek: 77GP-35G-25A-60P

Pavel Datsyuk: 70GP-19G-48A-67P
Johan Franzen: 77GP-29G-27A-56P

That's certainly debatable.
...not to mention the best offensive defenseman in the league.

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My vote would have to go to Schultz , followed close by Tarasenko. Coming from someone who's watched Huberdeau over a hundred times , I think he's going to have a harder time adjusting than many think. I'm not saying he isn't going to be a solid NHL foward , but it may take a season or two.

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01-06-2013, 07:01 PM
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As much as I want to say Schultz or Yakupov, I think Tarasenko will take it.

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01-06-2013, 07:03 PM
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...not to mention the best offensive defenseman in the league.
I find that that title floats around year after year...

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01-06-2013, 07:09 PM
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...not to mention the best offensive defenseman in the league.
...that would be taking away assists...

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01-06-2013, 07:15 PM
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As much as I want to say Schultz or Yakupov, I think Tarasenko will take it.
Even if Hitchcock gives a rookie ice time, how much is anybody really going to produce in that system?

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01-06-2013, 07:16 PM
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Franzen and Datsyuk would be better for Nyquist than Spezza+whoever with Silf
I'm willing to bet that a line of Silfverberg-Spezza-Michalek scores more than one of Franzen-Datsyuk-Nyqvist... although Nyqvist could very well outscore Silf.

For Silfverberg, I'm hoping we see 12 goals, 17 assists, 29 points in 48 games. That's my optimistic outlook. Realistically he could very well end up with 15 points. Nyqvist I think is a pretty safe bet for 25-35 points.

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01-06-2013, 07:22 PM
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I'm willing to bet that a line of Silfverberg-Spezza-Michalek scores more than one of Franzen-Datsyuk-Nyqvist... although Nyqvist could very well outscore Silf.

For Silfverberg, I'm hoping we see 12 goals, 17 assists, 29 points in 48 games. That's my optimistic outlook. Realistically he could very well end up with 15 points. Nyqvist I think is a pretty safe bet for 25-35 points.
I'd be happy with 25-35 for his rookie year. That puts him around 50-60 points for a full rookie season.

I've had his low career projection at 40-50 points a season and his high projection at 70-80 points.

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01-06-2013, 07:24 PM
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Tarasenko or Yakapov.

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01-06-2013, 07:26 PM
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I'd be happy with 25-35 for his rookie year. That puts him around 50-60 points for a full rookie season.

I've had his low career projection at 40-50 points a season and his high projection at 70-80 points.
Yeah I think he will likely be around 25, but he does have the skill and the situation to surprise and put up some big numbers. I also think he's the kind of guy who could bust out with a 4 point night, which has a much larger impact in a year like this.

Career-wise I expect Nyqvist to be a 55-65 point guy, 70-80 is too high. I rarely project anyone drafted outside of the top 3 to be a 70-80 point guy, though. Only 21 guys hit 70 last year and only 8 guys have had more than 70 points in both of the past two season.

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01-06-2013, 07:28 PM
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Tarasenko, Schultz, Granlund, Yakupov and Baertschi top 5

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01-06-2013, 07:45 PM
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Even Silfverberg? Interesting.
At the qmoment silverberg is well ahead of Strome.

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Taresenko wins it.

Shultz not far behind.

Granlund, playing PP minutes with Koivu, Heatley, Suter, and Parise, right behind him.

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01-06-2013, 07:48 PM
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...not to mention the best offensive defenseman in the league.
Ya but that just means Jason has to compensate defensively for karlsson. Makes it even more impressive, right.

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01-06-2013, 07:50 PM
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Yeah I think he will likely be around 25, but he does have the skill and the situation to surprise and put up some big numbers. I also think he's the kind of guy who could bust out with a 4 point night, which has a much larger impact in a year like this.

Career-wise I expect Nyqvist to be a 55-65 point guy, 70-80 is too high. I rarely project anyone drafted outside of the top 3 to be a 70-80 point guy, though. Only 21 guys hit 70 last year and only 8 guys have had more than 70 points in both of the past two season.
I think he's got the raw skill to get there, whether he continues to develop into that productive of a player remains to be seen. Skill wise, he's got a little bit of Datsyuk in him. He's not at the same level, and probably never will be, but we've seen what can be done with that skill set.

Although I will say I think Nyquist is better now than Datsyuk was when he first hit the NHL.

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01-06-2013, 09:16 PM
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i say Cam Atkinson has a good chance at winning it

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01-06-2013, 10:55 PM
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i say Cam Atkinson has a good chance at winning it
Interesting one that hasn't been mentioned..he certainly could make a run at it.

How does he fit into Columbus's top 6?? PP Time?

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01-06-2013, 11:39 PM
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Baertschi, Tarasenko, Nyqvist for me.

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01-07-2013, 12:39 AM
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Playing high mins with two young proven nhl stars,and still in last place.I want to see how much he can do for OKC without Eberle and Hall.
Do people still really think that some players are only good when they have good players around them. Really?

On rare occasions a player may have one good year by playing with other good players. The vast majority of the time, a good player produces no matter who he plays with.

Sounds like you have never seen OKC play.

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01-07-2013, 07:16 AM
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I think he's got the raw skill to get there, whether he continues to develop into that productive of a player remains to be seen. Skill wise, he's got a little bit of Datsyuk in him. He's not at the same level, and probably never will be, but we've seen what can be done with that skill set.

Although I will say I think Nyquist is better now than Datsyuk was when he first hit the NHL.
Not sure all this Nyquist hype matters. He wont be playing next to Datsyuk at season start. There is a very good chance he is left in the AHL till an injury. And if he is called up expect to see him on the bottom 2 lines. That is just typical detroit. He will get an opportunity on Datsyuks wing at some point but its pretty unlikely he will sit there all season.

Case in point the last Grand Rapid Game Detroit sat Brendan Smith (definetely on the Redwings). They played Nyquist and Tartar (playing better than Nyquist anyway atm). Nyquist is not a sure thing on the team because we have about 6 extra NHL forwards right now. Being one of the teams best forwards for some reason does not asure him a spot.

Dats Franzen Filppula
Zetterberg Brunner Samuelson
Cleary Helm Bertuzzi
Abdlekader Tootoo Miller
Eaves LTIR
Mursak, Emmerton (Waiver Fodder)
(Nyquist/Tartar/Sheahan/Anderson Call ups)


If three scoring lines might give Nyquist a better shot:

Dats Franzen Nyquist
Zetterberg Brunner Cleary
Filppula Bertuzzi Samuelson (nice third line depth)
Helm Abdlekader Tootoo (scary fore-checking line)
I think this setup would be the hardest to play against.

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01-07-2013, 08:24 AM
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Not sure all this Nyquist hype matters. He wont be playing next to Datsyuk at season start. There is a very good chance he is left in the AHL till an injury. And if he is called up expect to see him on the bottom 2 lines. That is just typical detroit. He will get an opportunity on Datsyuks wing at some point but its pretty unlikely he will sit there all season.

Case in point the last Grand Rapid Game Detroit sat Brendan Smith (definetely on the Redwings). They played Nyquist and Tartar (playing better than Nyquist anyway atm). Nyquist is not a sure thing on the team because we have about 6 extra NHL forwards right now. Being one of the teams best forwards for some reason does not asure him a spot.

Dats Franzen Filppula
Zetterberg Brunner Samuelson
Cleary Helm Bertuzzi
Abdlekader Tootoo Miller
Eaves LTIR
Mursak, Emmerton (Waiver Fodder)
(Nyquist/Tartar/Sheahan/Anderson Call ups)


If three scoring lines might give Nyquist a better shot:

Dats Franzen Nyquist
Zetterberg Brunner Cleary
Filppula Bertuzzi Samuelson (nice third line depth)
Helm Abdlekader Tootoo (scary fore-checking line)
I think this setup would be the hardest to play against.
The only reason Nyquist wasn't a mainstay in Datsyuk's line last year was because he was underweight and got pushed around.

While I suppose its possible, if he gets held down, they're still not breaking up Filppula and Zetterberg as you had suggested. That line was too dominant last season.

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01-07-2013, 08:24 AM
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i say Cam Atkinson has a good chance at winning it
Pretty sure he played too many games last year or he would be a good selection to win. In other words he isn't eligible iirc.

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01-07-2013, 08:44 AM
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Seriously, if its not Yakupov or Schultz, it gotta be Silfverberg.

Only 21 years old and he was regular season MVP and playoff MVP in the SEL, last season. He busted the record of playoff goals... 13 I guess.

Though it doesnt mean he's better than the previous 2.

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Seriously, if its not Yakupov or Schultz, it gotta be Silfverberg.

Only 21 years old and he was regular season MVP and playoff MVP in the SEL, last season. He busted the record of playoff goals... 13 I guess.

Though it doesnt mean he's better than the previous 2.
I'd give tarasenko the nod before him.

Look what he's done so far this year and what he did in last year's khl playoffs with about 12min of toi per game.......

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01-07-2013, 10:33 AM
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Even if Hitchcock gives a rookie ice time, how much is anybody really going to produce in that system?
Valid question for sure. But from what little I have seen of Tarasenko, he looks like special player that will be one of the Blues primary producers as early as next season. I guess we'll see.

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