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01-06-2013, 03:03 PM
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I'm still on the Trouba train. Never should have passed on him.
Yeah. Trouba is going to be good.

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01-06-2013, 03:08 PM
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It's way too early to be second guessing the pick

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This is Jacob Trouba we talkin' 'bout, though.

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yeah. Trouba is going to be good.
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01-06-2013, 11:59 PM
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Trouba is like Chara, Weber, Pronger and Karlsson all rolled into one. Even see flashes of Lidstrom, Coffey and Orr a few times per period. Best D in the world under 30 for sure.

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01-07-2013, 12:02 AM
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Trouba is like Chara, Weber, Pronger and Karlsson all rolled into one. Even see flashes of Lidstrom, Coffey and Orr a few times per period. Best D in the world under 30 for sure.
I'm curious what forthewild thinks of him.

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01-07-2013, 09:54 AM
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I like Trouba a lot and while I wanted him at the time of the draft, I'm still willing to give Dumba some more time to get his game figured out.

That being said, the prospect in the WJC I'm most wishing we would have picked up in the 2012 Draft was Jake McCabe. Looked like a true leader out there every game and absolutely took control of that semifinal game against Canada. Kind of reminded me of Brian Rafalski in the USA/Canada prelim game in the 2010 Olympics.

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01-07-2013, 10:01 AM
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Yeah, I wanted McCabe a lot. Not sure if he was on our drafting radar, but I know he got picked only 1 or 2 spots in front of us.

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01-07-2013, 10:16 AM
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Yeah, I wanted McCabe a lot. Not sure if he was on our drafting radar, but I know he got picked only 1 or 2 spots in front of us.
We could've had him if we didn't lose the 2nd in the Burns trade (not saying I regret that deal). Although, San Jose sending that pick to Tampa for Dominic Moore was facepalm worthy (a bad trade even if you're trying to solidify your bottom six for a playoff run).

I will say, Buffalo had three great picks in a row (Grigorenko, Girgensons, McCabe).

And the funny thing is, they packaged their 2nd rounder and Nashville's 1st (from the Gaustad trade - IIRC) to move up to select Girgensons. They used Calgary's 2nd rounder on McCabe (which they got in that lopsided Robyn Regehr trade).

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01-07-2013, 10:32 AM
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We could've had him if we didn't lose the 2nd in the Burns trade (not saying I regret that deal). Although, San Jose sending that pick to Tampa for Dominic Moore was facepalm worthy (a bad trade even if you're trying to solidify your bottom six for a playoff run).

I will say, Buffalo had three great picks in a row (Grigorenko, Girgensons, McCabe).

And the funny thing is, they packaged their 2nd rounder and Nashville's 1st (from the Gaustad trade - IIRC) to move up to select Girgensons. They used Calgary's 2nd rounder on McCabe (which they got in that lopsided Robyn Regehr trade).
It's kind of amazing how many teams, inlcuding the Wild, have overpaid in a trade for the turdsandwich that is Dominic Moore. It's facinating.

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01-08-2013, 12:43 PM
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THREE STARS
Graovac 4-4=8 in 4gp
Zucker 2-4=6 in 4gp
Larsson 2-1-3 in 4gp

BAD WEEK
Bussieres 0-1=1 -4 in 3gp

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CChristoph Bertschy5'1017018.8 Switzerland632584    
FMario Lucia6'218719.4 USA701101    

AHL/ECHL
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LJason Zucker5'1117421AHLHouston Aeros3115173231-7    
RJustin Fontaine5'1017025.2AHLHouston Aeros288142222    
DBrian Connelly5'1117026.6AHLHouston Aeros332202284    
CMikael Granlund5'1018020.9AHLHouston Aeros21813218-4    
CCharlie Coyle6'220520.9AHLHouston Aeros351282018-5    
LJohan Larsson5'1020020.5AHLHouston Aeros3591120160    
RNick Palmieri6'222523.5AHLHouston Aeros3591019339    
CDavid McIntyre6'019025.9AHLHouston Aeros3479162215    
DChay Genoway5'917726.1AHLHouston Aeros334812256    
CZack Phillips6'017520.2AHLHouston Aeros33210124-7    
DMarco Scandella6'221622.9AHLHouston Aeros2311011131    
LKris Foucault6'120222.1AHLHouston Aeros2046102-3    
CChad Rau5'1117526AHLHouston Aeros2042642    
DTyler Cuma6'218023AHLHouston Aeros2715612-4    
DSteven Kampfer5'1119724.3AHLHouston Aeros1606610-12    
CCarson McMillan6'120024.3AHLHouston Aeros2314584    
DJonas Brodin6'116619.5AHLHouston Aeros822442    
CJoel Broda6'019623.1AHLHouston Aeros2822422-5    
LBrett Bulmer6'318520.7AHLHouston Aeros1711219-8    
DKyle Medvec6'519124.6AHLHouston Aeros1210120    
DJosh Caron6'221521.9AHLHouston Aeros100007-1    
GMatt Hackett6'217022.9AHLHouston Aeros      28132.630.904
GDarcy Kuemper6'419522.7AHLHouston Aeros      852.070.921
DSean Lorenz6'119122.8ECHLOrlando Solar Bears221894-1    
DKyle Medvec   ECHLOrlando Solar Bears12347162    
DJosh Caron   ECHLOrlando Solar Bears2011239-2    

Europe
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
CCody Almond6'219923.5Swiss-AGeneve Servette2661319404    
DDaniel Gunnarsson6'520120.7SELLulea HF355611146    
RMikko Lehtonen6'319625.8KHLCherepovets Severstal2336980    
DBjorn Krupp6'218921.9DELCologne Sharks1814583    
CChristoph Bertschy5'1017018.8Swiss-ABern27224141    
GDennis Endras6'016727.5DELMannheim Eagles      27172.220.928
GJohan Gustafsson6'220220.9SELLulea HF      22131.670.929

College
PosNameHtWtAgeLeagueTeamGPGAPtsPIM+/-GPWGAASave
LErik Haula5'1018421.8WCHAU. of Minnesota19917268     
FMario Lucia6'218719.4CCHANotre Dame955104     
DNick Seeler6'017019.6WCHAU. of Nebraska-Omaha1925718     
DJohn Draeger6'218619.1CCHAMichigan State University201458     
CAnthony Hamburg6'118521.4R.I.T.AHA132358     

Junior
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LRaphael Bussieres6'119519.2QMJHLBaie-Comeau Drakkar412027472620    
CTyler Graovac6'317919.7OHLOttawa 67's302114358-16    
CTyler Graovac   OHLBelleville Bulls113403    
LLouis Nanne5'1117118.6BCHLPenticton Vees3113132612     
CAdam Gilmour6'219319USHLMuskegon Lumberjacks34121325612    
DMathew Dumba6'018418.5WHLRed Deer Rebels4110132351-3    
DColton Jobke6'017520.7WHLRegina Pats2021315442    
GStephen Michalek6'219619.4USHLCedar Rapids RoughRiders      1262.970.9

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01-08-2013, 04:08 PM
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I'm curious what forthewild thinks of him.
I see trouba as a more physical Suter, a guy who is really solid in his end can lead the play up ice but his hits are something to behold.

Where he really would be nice is with Brodin, much like people are claiming Dumba would be that ideal dman to pair with Brodin. I think that Trouba would be better because of his more complete game, Trouba is just a beast in his own zone, and as he has shown he has some offense to go with this game.

its a shame we didnt take him but we'll have to make do with dumba.

i'm quite curious to see why Wild called dumba up for the camp, i'm hoping he develops well don't get me wrong, i want the guy to be a stud, only time will tell tho.

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01-08-2013, 05:48 PM
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thing is, Trouba looks like he can anchor his own pairing and Dumba doesn't. That doesn't mean Dumba won't be as effective, but that he'll be more dependent on his partner to play up to his potential. It'll take a few weeks but I'll be looking to unscientifically gauge any drop off in play in Suter and Weber. Very curious.

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01-09-2013, 08:55 PM
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does anyone have any faith left in Phillips?

I understand he is a long term project but I have been scratching my head over him for sometime now.. I keep thinking we should be seeing some sort of solid play / point production every once in a while.

anyone think higher of him than I do?

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01-09-2013, 09:03 PM
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Me and a couple others still have some hope left in Phillips. I think people are much too concerned about him. Comparing his stats with Coyle's, and there's only a slight disadvantage to Phillips.

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I see trouba as a more physical Suter, a guy who is really solid in his end can lead the play up ice but his hits are something to behold.

Where he really would be nice is with Brodin, much like people are claiming Dumba would be that ideal dman to pair with Brodin. I think that Trouba would be better because of his more complete game, Trouba is just a beast in his own zone, and as he has shown he has some offense to go with this game.

its a shame we didnt take him but we'll have to make do with dumba.

i'm quite curious to see why Wild called dumba up for the camp, i'm hoping he develops well don't get me wrong, i want the guy to be a stud, only time will tell tho.
He was being facetious. LOL.

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01-09-2013, 09:07 PM
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Some people who have watched most Aeros games would say that he's still promising and he has all the tools (his skating has improved BTW) to become a decent NHLer. Maybe not top line but still playing in the NHL in the future.

See last 5 Aeros games for example. I mean, take a look at the ton of chances he had in these games.

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does anyone have any faith left in Phillips?

I understand he is a long term project but I have been scratching my head over him for sometime now.. I keep thinking we should be seeing some sort of solid play / point production every once in a while.

anyone think higher of him than I do?
It sounds like he is going to be put in Granlund's spot for right now, so we'll see how he does there. Hopefully he can go on a little run here.

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01-09-2013, 09:08 PM
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Way too early to give up on Phillips, he can play

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Me and a couple others still have some hope left in Phillips. I think people are much too concerned about him. Comparing his stats with Coyle's, and there's only a slight disadvantage to Phillips.
I am not too worried about his point production but it should be higher than it currently is at in Houston... I just don't see how he is going to ever fit in, in time with this organization. Time will tell but I am really hopping that once the season starts (NHL) Phillips quietly starts to produce in Houston.

It would really suck to have a 1st round pick end up being a 4th line guy, but heck it could be worse. Not trying to jump the gun, the kid still has a couple years to develop

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01-09-2013, 09:14 PM
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Eh, not to be a wet blanket, but Phillips doesn't play a 4th-liner's game. He'll either be a top-6 NHLer, or career AHLer.

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01-09-2013, 09:16 PM
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Phillips becoming a 3rd NHL liner is what I expect.

He can play top line in the AHL but as cliche as it sounds like, the AHL isn't the NHL level wise.

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Eh, not to be a wet blanket, but Phillips doesn't play a 4th-liner's game. He'll either be a top-6 NHLer, or career AHLer.
that's my concern. How in the crap will he ever crack the top 6 for this club.

Koivu
Granlund

other possible prospects / future picks / trades / whatever


time will tell, i'll end it there

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He obviously won't with the Wild but then again, anything can happen in his future like a possible trade perhaps. Who knows...

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I suppose he could be the offensive-oriented guy on an otherwise defensive 3rd line. It won't be the greatest use of his offensive nature, but I really don't see him beating out Koivu, Parise, Granlund, Coyle or Zucker for a top 6 spot.

Maybe if Zucker and Granlund become who we think they will, we can sneak him on their RW, but I don't know.

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