HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Rangers Prospect Poll: #2

View Poll Results: Who is our #2 prospect?
D Brady Skjei 0 0%
LW Carl Hagelin 60 75.00%
D Dylan McIlrath 3 3.75%
C J.T. Miller 17 21.25%
RW Christian Thomas 0 0%
RW Jesper Fast 0 0%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-07-2013, 09:31 PM
  #26
HatTrick Swayze
Tomato Potato
 
HatTrick Swayze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 9,296
vCash: 500
I believe the line of thinking is: if the player with "size" or who "lacks high end skill" can develop other areas of their game they will be infinitely more valuable than the flawed (size, defensive play, physicality) offensive perimeter dynamo.

Players with top-flite talet with other deficiencies are available on the trade and FA market each summer. Alex Semin is a top-10 NHL talent on offensive game alone. He was available this summer for only a one year commitment.

The players that rarely, if ever, become available via trade or FA are the obvious superstars and the players who combine defensive play, leadership, and physicality with top-6 skill. The rare exception being a guy like Mike Richards but think him, Kesler, Backes, Callahan, Dustin Brown, TJ Oshie, Ryan O'Reilly, Morrow, etc.

The odds of that happening are admittedly slim, but it can be worth taking the chance because there is almost no opportunity to acquire those players otherwise. Not to mention having a safer "floor".

__________________
"Here we can see the agression of american people. They love fighting and guns. when they wont win they try to kill us all." -HalfOfFame
HatTrick Swayze is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 09:35 PM
  #27
M Gaz
Au revoir Shosanna!
 
M Gaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 1,727
vCash: 50
Hagelin, add Lindberg

M Gaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 09:37 PM
  #28
mschmidt64
Registered User
 
mschmidt64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 828
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 View Post
The Rangers have had a philosophy of filling in their depth from within. They feel they can acquire a few top end players to offset the hard working blue collar players they develop. I don't see how it hasn't worked up to this point.

The drafting philosophy you want to divert from was the reason the Rangers were able to acquire Nash and not skip a beat.

They want players who will play Ranger hockey. That's hard nosed, 2way hockey. They take chances on players later in the draft and use their higher picks to draft more sure fire players. Size is a factor because of the necessity to play that style I described above. Unfortunately a player like Grimaldi would find that difficult
That's not necessarily a bad philosophy when you've got the cash assets, history, and market to lure the big names. While the signing megastars route didn't work for the Rangers in the late 90s and early 2000s when they were only signing stars, now that they've begun to build a solid core of hard working talented 2nd and 3rd liners, the "icing on the cake" approach to FA does seem to be working.

Still, you'd like to have a home-grown elite top line player.

mschmidt64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 09:44 PM
  #29
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,204
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
That's not necessarily a bad philosophy when you've got the cash assets, history, and market to lure the big names. While the signing megastars route didn't work for the Rangers in the late 90s and early 2000s when they were only signing stars, now that they've begun to build a solid core of hard working talented 2nd and 3rd liners, the "icing on the cake" approach to FA does seem to be working.

Still, you'd like to have a home-grown elite top line player.
Of course you would. The Rangers have Hank, McDonagh, Girardi and Staal. All players that other teams would clearly covet who are home grown. Callahan may be in that group as well. Stepan has a chance to get there.

NYR Viper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 09:45 PM
  #30
McDonaghisGod
Why not us?
 
McDonaghisGod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Country: United States
Posts: 5,932
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
That's not necessarily a bad philosophy when you've got the cash assets, history, and market to lure the big names. While the signing megastars route didn't work for the Rangers in the late 90s and early 2000s when they were only signing stars, now that they've begun to build a solid core of hard working talented 2nd and 3rd liners, the "icing on the cake" approach to FA does seem to be working.

Still, you'd like to have a home-grown elite top line player.
Extremely difficult to obtain when you don't pick in the top five.

McDonaghisGod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 11:27 PM
  #31
N9Y4R
Bleed Blue
 
N9Y4R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Gold Coast
Country: United States
Posts: 942
vCash: 500
Hagelin, add Lindberg

N9Y4R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 02:19 AM
  #32
eco's bones
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Elmira NY
Country: United States
Posts: 12,375
vCash: 500
Hagelin. Lindberg.

eco's bones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 02:46 AM
  #33
SupersonicMonkey*
DROP THE PUCK
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 15,193
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
Hagelin having a good full season in the NHL is worth more than Miller having a nice few games at the WJC. Hagelin had more points per game for the Rangers last year than Miller got for the Whale this year, and it's not as if he's a slouch defensively. Hagelin all the way here.
Miller is also 19 playing in professional hockey.

Stats are not how player development work. Its just not.

Hagelin is further along in his development. He's also half a decade older than Miller.

Miller by FAR has more potential than Hagelin.

"Worth more than having a few nice games". More drivel.

SupersonicMonkey* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 02:48 AM
  #34
SupersonicMonkey*
DROP THE PUCK
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 15,193
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
Maybe as a two-way guy, but not as someone who's a significant offensive threat. I see him more as a tweener, someone like Anisimov (not in terms of style, just ability).
Wrong.

You gather this by judging a 19 year old in his first half a season in pro hockey?

SupersonicMonkey* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 02:55 AM
  #35
SupersonicMonkey*
DROP THE PUCK
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 15,193
vCash: 500
Hagelin

Add Lindberg

SupersonicMonkey* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 03:14 AM
  #36
rmcg11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 300
vCash: 500
hags really close with miller imho add lindberg

rmcg11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 06:17 AM
  #37
Burlington Bomb 26
Louie Louie Oh oh
 
Burlington Bomb 26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Green Mountain State
Country: United States
Posts: 16,615
vCash: 500
Hags add Lindberg

Burlington Bomb 26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 06:20 AM
  #38
SoftEuro4thLiner
Registered User
 
SoftEuro4thLiner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Country: Austria
Posts: 2,412
vCash: 50
Hagelin, add Hrivik. As good as Lindbergh is doing, I can't get myself to stop doubting he can continue at this level offensively. He always has been solid on the defensive side. He should be an option after next voting round, though.

SoftEuro4thLiner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 06:31 AM
  #39
UAGoalieGuy
Registered User
 
UAGoalieGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Long Island,New York
Country: United States
Posts: 8,688
vCash: 500
I voted Miller because I don't think he is far off from being an NHLer and that he will have a greater impact. Though I think both will have decent NHL careers.

Add Lindberg.

UAGoalieGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 07:06 AM
  #40
darko
Registered User
 
darko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Australia
Posts: 30,156
vCash: 500
Miller, add Lindberg.

darko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 07:24 AM
  #41
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,439
vCash: 500
Hagelin. Add Lindberg. Hrivik next.

Trxjw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 05:34 PM
  #42
bernmeister
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 8,112
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mschmidt64 View Post
So Miller doesn't project as a 2nd line player?
voted the obvious Hagelin for#2 behind Kreider AIAEC

as to the above, if things continue, Miller will supplant Stepan w/in 2 years, so unless Rangers acquire another even higher C, he'll become our #2.

bernmeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:44 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.