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So who won the lockout?

View Poll Results: Which side did better in the 2012-13 NHL lockout CBA?
Players 27 34.62%
Owners 51 65.38%
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01-07-2013, 04:15 AM
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So who won the lockout?

Did not include the choice "neither side won" because that's too obvious (and a bit of a cop out).

So who made out better?

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01-07-2013, 04:37 AM
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The players were bound to lose from the beginning, the question was just how much they would have to give up. And I don't think they had to give up that much, when you compare to the first offer the league made. So in that sense I think it was a victory for them.

Meanwhile, the league got a few things they wanted so they kind of won too, but didn't gain as much as they would have wanted.

However, if you look at revenues lost, neither won.

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01-07-2013, 05:40 AM
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01-07-2013, 06:00 AM
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Owners starting next season.

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01-07-2013, 07:19 AM
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Voted owners for now but it's very early to tell.. salary floor is fixed so that might create some problems down the road as RS didn't increase that much.

But owners supposedly won the previous CBA but look how that turned out.

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01-07-2013, 09:41 AM
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Hopefully it will be some players who had chance to recover from injuries/found passion again/rejuvenated their career's.

Like Selanne in the last lockout. I don't really care about which side "won". I am selfish enough to think that I lost some good hockey due to the lockout.

Hopefully some players got something good out of it. Don't really care about the owners or the terms of the new CBA.

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01-07-2013, 12:29 PM
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Teemu Selanne. His career won't be ended by a lockout. I don't even care which side won these negotiations. They both just did massive damage to the league. They don't deserve "winnings"

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01-07-2013, 12:29 PM
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01-07-2013, 12:45 PM
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The players were never in thsi to win it.

Losing was the ONLY end game here. This was nothing more than a Negotiation of Compromise for the players.

"How much are we going to lose" is pretty much the thought process.

The hold up was that the players think that under the terms of the owners initial offer, over the life of the CBA term they would lose more than what they settled for.

If anything, I think a long term deal is going to benefit the players more than the owners think.

Just like last time, the players "lost" that negotiation and hindsight being what it is, we see the result differently today than we did when the agreement in 2005 was announced.

The folks here that believe the NHLPA got shafted becuase they lost 700 to get 300 blah blah blah have short memories.

Lets see what things look like after the GM's and Capologists and Agents get a hold of the document and expose it for the swiss cheese that it is.

Still, the owners have a better deal today than they did at the end of last season. However, anyone thinking that would not be the case is out to lunch.

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01-07-2013, 01:16 PM
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The players were never going to win; their objective was to lose as little as possible.

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01-07-2013, 02:05 PM
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01-07-2013, 02:42 PM
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The real winner and hero of this lockout is this man:



United States federal mediator Scot L. Beckenbaugh.

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01-07-2013, 03:15 PM
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Ehh... Both of them (and probably none of us) are still million/billionares and we lost half a season over something that should have been settled over a year ago.

Don't get me wrong, though. I'm so excited for the season.

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01-07-2013, 03:16 PM
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It's obvious the owners were going to win since they have the monopoly on professional hockey and can act as fascists.

That being said, Fehr did a good job to limit the bending over imposed to the players.

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01-07-2013, 11:48 PM
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both lost.

KHL won.

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The real winner and hero of this lockout is this man:



United States federal mediator Scot L. Beckenbaugh.
He needs his number retired across the league.

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01-08-2013, 01:40 AM
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In the negotiation range, I'd say the players won by a significant margin. The owners got little of what they desired, and we're still going to have franchises in trouble.

In the grand scheme of things, everybody is likely to lose.

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